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Gay/Lesbian

So, What Is It That The Anti-Gay Groups Actually Fear?

I disagree when you say, "There is no equivalency between allowing siblings to marry and breed and gay marriage." Individuals are free to pursue happiness in their own way. As I said in an earlier post, we are not going to send the sex police out to arrest consenting adults in this country. You cannot prevent adult siblings from having sex. As far as condoning it by allowing a marriage contract, as I have said before, when you remove govt. $ from the equation the responsibility to care for a retarded child is on the parents if they choose to procreate. That being said, gay siblings will not be able to procreate, so why do you believe the law should deny the marriage contract to them? Btw, I really could care less about peoples sexual habits where consenting adults are concerned. I just happen to think that the govts. role in the contract should have nothing whatsoever to do with sex or love. So, ANY two adult citizens should be allowed to enter the contract and reap the benefits if we are going to keep the benefits in place. Personally I'd rather see them go away along with the federal income tax.  (Aug 21, 2012 | post #238)

Gay/Lesbian

So, What Is It That The Anti-Gay Groups Actually Fear?

You say "Most people are afraid of being asked to treat someone nice, that they've always been taught to hate." Agree. Not a big fan of mobs & bullies myself. I, however, don't think bigotry will disappear by eliminating a book.  (Aug 21, 2012 | post #232)

Gay/Lesbian

So, What Is It That The Anti-Gay Groups Actually Fear?

I meant social norms. Informal social norms do change all the time at different rates. This is part of being human. LGBT You bring up my statement about incest. I don't believe that 2 siblings receive the same benefits just by being related that a marriage contract provides. For example when I'm doing my taxes, i don't check a box that says jointly with my bro for a different monetary outcome. & if you're signing a contract with someone who is essentially a stranger then please reconsider. I know from experience that it's a bad idea. As far as you telling them they can't marry, isn't your bigotry interfering with their pursuit of happiness? Please explain more clearly. I see this accusation a lot from individuals in the gay community. Why is it different when the law wont let them marry?  (Aug 21, 2012 | post #229)

Gay/Lesbian

So, What Is It That The Anti-Gay Groups Actually Fear?

Humans are suspicious of deviation from social norms. Consensual adult incest for example is considered taboo. Should we have laws banning it & send out the sex police to arrest them. Not likely here in the US. Should they be allowed to legally marry? If not, why? If, as the parent of a 17 year old girl, you live next door to a middle aged chronic masterbater who leers at women & throws out stacks of stained porn next to his garbage can, you might have a problem with this. Is he doing something illegal? Is his behavior natural? Is it immoral? If the neighborhood gets together & discusses him negatively are they bigoted? This is why the fear (if that's what you want to call it) exists.  (Aug 21, 2012 | post #224)

Gay/Lesbian

So, What Is It That The Anti-Gay Groups Actually Fear?

I agree with most everything you've said here. When you say "we are seeing an infringement on our represtative government values, and we're seeing as a result of that goverment as a means to enhance the few at the expense of the majority." You are correct. What I am trying to convince people to do is fight the government's ability to do this by defunding them. A minority group crying to be given their fair share of plundered goods wont stop the manipulation. The premise of our constitution from which our laws are written is pretty simple. The fundamental right to live, keep your property, & try to make yourself happy as long as you aren't violating someone else's natural rights. The idea is to come as close to self government as possible.  (Aug 21, 2012 | post #215)

Australia

Strange UFO hovers over Brisbane

Laughing... In a poetic internal ballet. Humans=alien+ape. + a spec of lemur if my sources are correct. Aliens chose middle eastern males by the way. & Evolve+survive+Aus tralia divided by zachariah stechin = what we should teach pubescent males in high school to succeed in life survival. It will combat religion and help atheism survive in order to make us feel the absoluteness of current imperical data. Are you stupid or wut?  (Aug 20, 2012 | post #118)

Gay/Lesbian

So, What Is It That The Anti-Gay Groups Actually Fear?

it is a revolutionary movement that wants to overthrow something..In this case "marriage ". Quoted from Carl according to your quote. Marriage is something traditional. Unfortunately it has a recent traditional connection with $$$ in one form or another. Equality under the law according to our constitution (which has a bit of value on many levels) entitles people to equal treatment. Yep even them negroes. So instead of "granting " people the right to keep an equal amount of money from their monthy wages, or qualify for special government treatment, lets all (hetero & gay & bigamist) just give the fed the bird &....well, you know the rest.  (Aug 20, 2012 | post #195)

Opinion

Give 'em hell, Mitt: fight Obama's smears

We give tax breaks." this from #1 Small vs Big business from #2 No. Americans with a natural right to keep your property & pursue some damn happiness at your own expense. Yes. This is what we Americans call liberty. We must accept that to big to fail is no longer acceptable.  (Aug 20, 2012 | post #271)

Opinion

Give 'em hell, Mitt: fight Obama's smears

Modern liberals = effeminate girls in dresses who run to mommy when they run out of milk or their pot farm gets raided by the fed.  (Aug 20, 2012 | post #270)

Opinion

Give 'em hell, Mitt: fight Obama's smears

Neo con Bishop flip flop versus Obami the Commi. Due to the predictable fact that we American's are too terrified to defund the federal government in order to swing more control back to local government, stop forcing taxpayers to pay for the BS endeavors of a handfull of politicians in the central planning dept & let them know we're serious about retrieving our liberty: Please vote for the lesser of the two Centrists. By all means, get behind your man & back your team. It will change nothing. Both of you have already handed your freedom to them out of fear. You just fear different monsters.  (Aug 20, 2012 | post #257)

Gay/Lesbian

So, What Is It That The Anti-Gay Groups Actually Fear?

I think that you (& most people these days) misunderstand what true liberty actually means. Imagine that when you receive a paycheck at the end of the week & 30 percent of it has NOT been taken from you. Now that marriage has nothing to do with plundered money or special benefits, you experience true liberty, you live with your partner, maybe sign a contract to divide property or a pre nup agreement, & now you dont have to shout into everyone's ear what gender you prefer to breed with. Gay people should be asking the following question: Why does government get to pick winners & losers to modify behavior by means of extortion & fight for true liberty.  (Aug 20, 2012 | post #172)

Health

Lawyer ordered to pay $4.5M to gay U-M student

Check it out: Texas couple who filed a defamation lawsuit over three years ago against anonymous posters on the Internet forum Topix.com won a $13.8 million judgment from a jury http://abcnews.go. com/m/story?id=161 94071  (Aug 17, 2012 | post #29)

Maharashtra, India

Violent Muslim riots in India

72 Virgins Pie 2 killed 30 injured 8 policeman injured/ woman constables molested 34 buses of BEST burnt down Many properties damaged Mix well & bake at 120 degrees fahrenheit until adolescence.  (Aug 17, 2012 | post #86)

Airlines

United Airlines Lost My Friend's 10 Year Old Daughter And...

Here is an interesting article about government swaddling airline "companies " in a protective embrace. http://hasbrouck.o rg/blog/archives/0 01001.html  (Aug 16, 2012 | post #140)

Drugs

Girlfriend locked in room for years

You guys do realize that the guy probably WAS actually padlocking the apartment out of concern (in his own mind anyway.) She was probably consistently paranoid from the drugs he supplied her. If you want to call that abusing her then I'll agree but outside of that they probably just had some weird codependent thing happening.  (Aug 15, 2012 | post #89)

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