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Liam R

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IS BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA THE ANTI CHRIST? read on...

Oh, and this and the next post are me, I'm at a library, and the computer didn't want to believe me the first two times I tried to log in. Damn Windows.  (9 hrs ago | post #13513)

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IS BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA THE ANTI CHRIST? read on...

I just finished reading a great book: "Why the Jews rejected Jesus". I highly recommend it. It does a good job of showing how EVERTHING that Christianity believes is an inversion of what the Bible teaches.  (9 hrs ago | post #13512)

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IS BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA THE ANTI CHRIST? read on...

Honestly and accurately challenge it, yes. Some of this delves into the Hebrew words that were used and their specific meaning. Isa 7:13 uses language that today would be the equivalent of saying that the officially recorded name on his birth cirtificate shall be Immanuel. In contrast, the officially recorded name you refer to was Jesus. Translating his name into English, Jesus means "God is our Savior" Immanuel means "God is with us", and in fact, EVERY name that ends in "-el" is a reference to God. There were many people who had these names. Oh, and minor point, but "Jesus" is the English version of the Greek form of his name. Going directly to English from the Aramaic, you should be worshipping "Joshua" . Well, "should" should be taken rather loosely, since I don't actually advocate idolitry.  (9 hrs ago | post #13511)

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IS BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA THE ANTI CHRIST? read on...

There is a BIG difference between a name and titles. The NAME of Jesus was Jesus, and that was his only NAME. (Well, Jesus ben Joseph, to be correct.) The prophecy in Isaiah specified that the child would be NAMED Immanuel. Jesus and Immanuel are two completely different names. You might as well be reading a prophecy about "John" and then claiming that "Paul" has fulfilled it, because Paul went to a prostitute, and customers of prostitutes are called johns. Heck, that example is actually MORE of a fulfillment of the made up prophecy that Jesus was with respect to Immanuel.  (Tuesday | post #13495)

Oklahoma

IS BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA THE ANTI CHRIST? read on...

No. Almah translates s young woman, period. A young woman may or may not be a virgin, but being a virgin is completely independant of being a young woman. And, not surprising, you missed the main point. She was a sign for King Ahaz. Isaiah said "Behold, THAT young woman will give birth...". Isaiah was specifying a particular young woman to King Ahaz, either one that he could point out, or one that was already known to King Ahaz. In other words, a young woman who lived and died centuries before Mary or Jesus were born.  (Tuesday | post #13494)

Christian

Evangelicals to Gays: We Have Nothing For You | RD Blog: The De...

Oh, silly child... the things that I post about the Messiah are NOT opinion, but a simple and straightforward statement of what the Bible says about the matter. It is quite simple. IF there is ANY truth in the Bible, then the Messiah of prophecy has not come. No opinion, just an examination of what is written in black and white. Fact: numerous prophecies state that the Messiah will bring an era of peace. Even if we assume that it means peace only for Israel, that prophecy has NOT been fulfilled. Fact: the prophecies state that sacrifices will take place in the Temple. Currently, the Muslims occupy the site of the Temple, and until they ar gone, the Temple cannot be rebuilt, nor can prayers and sacrifices take place there. Fact: all twelve tribes will be reunited. Currently, the ten Lost Tribes are still lost. There's more. Do you recognize these, or shall I trot out the chapter and verse? So, unless you can demonstrate that I somehow missed seeing world peace, my statements about the Messiah are not opinion, but fact.  (Tuesday | post #21269)

Christian

Evangelicals to Gays: We Have Nothing For You | RD Blog: The De...

Well, gee... it's called "science ". Ya see, what those psychologists are doing is research and investigation. That "small group" has examined the evidence and has demonstrated that any claims about changing a person's orientation are bull. Once they have done this investigation, they pass this information on to others in the field so the others don't keep trying to do something that does not work. No matter how long you talk at someone, you can't change their genetic code. Homosexuality is not a psychological issue, it is biological. However, a good shrink can help a person deal with being homosexual and learn to accept themselves for who they are, and not just for who they sleep with. Sort of like back when the doctors finally figured out that slapping a leech on someone was not very likely to actualy cure any diseases. Fun fact time: there was a U.S. president who DIED from leeches and blood letting. He fell ill during his inaguration, the "doctors " of the day did what they knew, but no matter how much blood they let out, his humors would not balance, and he died from blood lose. Now, modern medical research has found out that there are a small number of very specific conditions that actualy CAN be improved through the use of leeches. Go figure.  (Tuesday | post #21268)

Christian

Evangelicals to Gays: We Have Nothing For You | RD Blog: The De...

Well, having read the Bible's prophecies concerning the requirements to be te Messiah, it is obvious that Jesus failed to fulfill the vast majority of those prophecies. He managed to get a few of the trivial* ones, but that's it. All of the biggies, like peace & prosperity, return of the Lost Tribes of Israel, restoring the Temple and the sacrifices therein, all of these, Jesus failed. * Born of a woman, born of the tribe of Judah, rode into Jerusalem on a donkey. Oouu, like he was the ONLY person to have ever done any of those things.  (Tuesday | post #21261)

Christian

Evangelicals to Gays: We Have Nothing For You | RD Blog: The De...

Psychologists: Gays shouldn't be advised to changehttp://www.u satoday.com/news/h ealth/2009-08-05-p sychology-gay-stra ight_N.htm American Medical Assoc. votes to seek repeal of 'don't ask,don't tell' By Lindsey Tanner, The Associated Presshttp://www.us atoday.com/news/he alth/2009-11-10-am a-gay_N.htm?csp=24 &RM_Exclude=Ju no  (Tuesday | post #21259)

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US bishop 'grieves' over defeat of same-sex marriage law

American Medical Assoc. votes to seek repeal of 'don't ask,don't tell' By Lindsey Tanner, The Associated PressMore and more Christians are learning to accept what the Bible really says rather than trying to pretend that the Bible condemns homosexuality. The simple truth is that NOWHERE in the Bible is homosexuality condemned. It is only in the MIStranslations of simple minded buffoons that any group of people are singled out and condemned.  (Tuesday | post #29)

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Evangelicals to Gays: We Have Nothing For You | RD Blog: The De...

And Isaiah also says that the Eath is flat. But let's look at some of the other verses in the Bible. And by all means, do please read them in context. Amos 3:1 Hear this word that the LORD hath spoken against you, O children of Israel, against the whole family which I brought up from the land of Egypt, saying, 3:2 You only have I known of all the families of the earth: Psalms 147:19 He sheweth his word unto Jacob, his statutes and his judgments unto Israel. 147:20 He hath not dealt so with any nation: and as for his judgments, they have not known them. Praise ye the LORD 2 Samuel 7:23 And what one nation in the earth is like thy people, even like Israel, whom God went to redeem for a people to himself, and to make him a name, and to do for you great things and terrible, for thy land, before thy people, which thou redeemedst to thee from Egypt, from the nations and their gods? 7:24 For thou hast confirmed to thyself thy people Israel to be a people unto thee for ever: and thou, LORD, art become their God. All of these make it pretty clear that the God of the Bible is concerned only with the children of Israel. But, to be fair and honest (you ought to try that someday!) there are verses by the prophets that claim that for every Jew returning to Jerusalem once the Messiah comes, thre will be ten Gentiles clutching their hem to go with them so they can convert to Judaism. Ballparking some numbers makes that as many as 5% of the worlds population will end up worshipping the God of the Bible! Exodus 22:20 He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed. Notice that it does NOT mention anything about “false gods”, thus implying that other people have their own Gods, but the children of Israel are not to sacrifice to those other Gods. Joshua 24:2 And Joshua said unto all the people, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Your fathers dwelt on the other side of the flood in old time, even Terah, the father of Abraham, and the father of Nachor: and they served other gods. So, even the pre-Abraham patriarchs worshipped other Gods. Isaiah 51:2 Look unto Abraham your father, and unto Sarah that bare you: for I called him alone, and blessed him, and increased him. 51:3 For the LORD shall comfort Zion: he will comfort all her waste places; and he will make her wilderness like Eden, and her desert like the garden of the LORD; joy and gladness shall be found therein, thanksgiving, and the voice of melody. And here we see that, out of all the people on the Earth, ONLY Abraham was called. Everyone else had their own Gods to worship. And the next line shows that the God of the Bible will comfort the nation of Israel, but no mention is made of the rest of the world. Once again, that is because they all have their own Gods to follow. Ezekiel 33:20 ... O ye house of Israel, I will judge you every one after his ways. So, here the God of the Bible says that He will judge the house of Israel. Read it in context, it is clear that what is meant is that ONLY the house of Israel will be judged.  (Tuesday | post #21254)

Christian

Evangelicals to Gays: We Have Nothing For You | RD Blog: The De...

Once again, wrong as usual. Baptism was been used by the Jews for centuries before John wandered onto the scene. It was commanded by the Torah.  (Tuesday | post #21251)

Christian

Evangelicals to Gays: We Have Nothing For You | RD Blog: The De...

Well, that is YOUR spin on it, anyway. Do you have ANY evidence, or is it just your overwhelming need to pretend that homosexuality is somehow condemned? From discussions in the Talmud, it is clear that even though they did not have the term "homosexual " nor the concept of sexual orintation, they DID have to deal with homosexual men who simply were unable to pretend to have any interest in women. To the more primitive mindset, the only answer they could understand was that the men wee somehow eunuchs from birth, even though they appeared to be fuly functioning males. To learn more about natural eunuchs, go here: http://www.well.co m/user/aquarius/ca rdiff.htmProve itNot relavent in the least. The point was that the men were not to go off and visit the temples of the Canaanites. Since those temples were groves on the hill tops, there were many of them and thy were easy to findAnd that is YOUR misunderstanding of what the Bible says. Pay attention to what is actually said. Man <ish> shall not lay mankind <zakar> as with woman <ishshah>, for it is abomination <tow'ebah>. IF it meant man lying with any man, anywhere, it would have been ish and ish, not ish and zakar. Zakar refers to males (not just human, any species) that have been concecrated to a God. And tow'ebah refers to things that are abomination BECAUSE they are partof the worship of foreign Gods. Then too, Deuteronomy repeats and recaps the laws. It does not mention anything about homosexual acts, BUT it does specifiy that qadesh are prohibited, and qadesh is the Hebrew word for male temple prostitute. A qadesh would be a zakar, since a temple prostitute is a type of priest. No, if this was just a matter of one word that might go one way or another, then I could agree with you that it is not clear. But the fact remains that it is NOT just one word, it is many, and it is not just one verse, it is several passages that overlap and reinforce one another and they all say that homosexuality is not a sin.  (Tuesday | post #21239)

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Evangelicals to Gays: We Have Nothing For You | RD Blog: The De...

Hmm, last I had heard was just the opposite, that circumcised men were less likely to get AIDS, but that study came out of Sub-Saharan Africa and the men most likely to get circumcised also happen to live in areas that place a greater emphasis on hygene and cleanliness. Eh, too late for me either way.  (Tuesday Nov 10 | post #21235)

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Evangelicals to Gays: We Have Nothing For You | RD Blog: The De...

male AND female He created them" "male and female He created THEM" You need to stop and think whether or not you are putting the stress on the wrong word. And you need to remember that for the past three thousand years, the Jews have had a tradition of reading the Torah aloud at their services, cycling through the entire thing every years. That tradition includes stressing the same syllables in the same way every time. Then too, you need to remember that we are discussing allegorical myth, not historical fact. Since the Bronze Age when such myths seemed to make sense we have learned much about how the world really works,including the fact that the Earth is 4.5 billion years old and life has evolved over the years, with humans evolving out of pre-humans a couple of hundred of thousands of years ago. We didn't just "poof" into existance, but we did make the transistion from animals, to almost human, to true humman with souls &c in the image of God.  (Tuesday Nov 10 | post #21234)

Q & A with Liam R

Headline:

No Jesus: know peace

Hometown:

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

I Belong To:

Myself and the Celtic Gods

When I'm Not on Topix:

Studying Child Development with a focus on special needs kids.

I'm Listening To:

Bach, Mozart...

Read This Book:

Hamlet's Mill

Favorite Things:

My son