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Mike Huckabee

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sorry for the double post.  (Nov 26, 2007 | post #377)

Mike Huckabee

Immigration Debate Injures Prominent Presidential Candidates

Part 1 It seems we will never agree on some issues El Chapin. I don’t know where you get the idea that I am making assumptions about anyone based on race. I haven’t mentioned race or skin colour at all. You are clearly on the defensive. I have never once been mistaken by anyone for someone who is in an MS13 gang. I would never assume that anyone would think that of me just because I am from El Salvador.To make assumptions like that, would make me just as hypocritical and ignorant, as the people who assume such things based on my appearance. I cannot be positive, that anyone would think that of me, unless they come out and say it to my face. I am a law abiding citizen and I have worked hard to fit into my country. I am very proud of where I come from but my loyalty is now to the country in which I reside. I think it only fair, that in exchange, for all that this wonderful country has given me, it is my duty to learn the official language and respect the laws. I was fortunate enough to be accepted and invited to be a legal citizen. This is the difference between a legal immigrant and an illegal alien. They want to force themselves into a country uninvited. They want the American people to cater to their needs and demand that they be accepted no matter what the consequences. Simply by crossing the border they are saying, ¨ I am here whether you like it or not, so deal with it!¨ No matter what you say, Americans have a right to decide and choose who they want in their country and what language should be spoken. It is amongst their rights, which are clearly being violated. What gives Illegals the right to do such disrespectful things? If they have the will power to march and protest on American soil, why not in their home land? Racism is shameful but even if some Americans are racist, it is completely irrelevant. The bottom line is that immigration laws STILL need to be reformed and enforced.  (Nov 26, 2007 | post #376)

Mike Huckabee

Immigration Debate Injures Prominent Presidential Candidates

Part 2 I see nothing wrong with Americans feeling entitled. Travelling abroad, to any particular destination, or enforcing their laws, whatever they may be, are among the rights and benefits of being an American. They don’t do it because they feel entitled to it but because they have created a country that allows its citizens the freedom and power to do such things. The difference between El Salvador and America is clear, and the reason why ¨a poor man in Metapan¨ cannot do the same has everything to do with the massive differences in both countries. If people in El Salvador or other less fortunate countries, were granted such easy access to the US or any other well developed country, I can guarantee you that more than half of them would never return. I have seen it with my own eyes. That is why Americans have that privilege and we do not. Why should Americans have to change their laws to suit Illegals? I was never talking about legal immigrants or citizens behaving blatantly or burning anything. I am talking STRICTLY about ILLEGALS, whatever their race or skin colour. Why can’t you understand that? Though you haven’t come out and directly called anyone a racist, you have certainly implied it. I have no idea how many people are legal or illegal in those protests and clearly you don’t either. So how can you be sure Illegals have not burned flags or behaved inappropriately? I am not trying to justify any behaviour of that kind, on either side, I am just saying that ILLEGALS have no right to demand anything or force themselves on Americans. They choose to put themselves in vulnerable situations at their own will and risk. I am all for diversity in every country, after all, America is built on immigrants but they all have one thing in common. They all want to preserve, respect and protect their nation. This is what the legal immigration process is trying to maintain and that is what is so offensive and dangerous about just anyone coming in uninvited and without any regard for the legal process of doing things. It has nothing to do with wanting to keep the country ¨white¨ but simply safe and balanced. As far as law enforcement using their racial bias to their favour, it is simply impossible. The most they can do, is ask someone questions about their legal status, which they have more than a right to do. If you are law abiding and legally in the US, it shouldn’t be a problem. Immigration enforcement isn’t something that depends on one person alone, it is a long process that goes through many hands. It’s not like they are going to deport anyone on the spot just for having brown skin. Please try to give the American people some credit. America wouldn’t be what it is today, if its citizens did not believe in freedom and justice. Just because you have encountered some racist behaviour on behalf of some, doesn’t mean everyone is like that.  (Nov 26, 2007 | post #375)

Mike Huckabee

Immigration Debate Injures Prominent Presidential Candidates

Part 1 It seems we will never agree on some issues El Chapin. I don’t know where you get the idea that I am making assumptions about anyone based on race. I haven’t mentioned race or skin colour at all. You are clearly on the defensive. I have never once been mistaken by anyone for someone who is in an MS13 gang. I would never assume that anyone would think that of me just because I am from El Salvador.To make assumptions like that, would make me just as hypocritical and ignorant, as the people who assume such things based on my appearance. I cannot be positive, that anyone would think that of me, unless they come out and say it to my face. I am a law abiding citizen and I have worked hard to fit into my country. I am very proud of where I come from but my loyalty is now to the country in which I reside. I think it only fair, that in exchange, for all that this wonderful country has given me, it is my duty to learn the official language and respect the laws. I was fortunate enough to be accepted and invited to be a legal citizen. This is the difference between a legal immigrant and an illegal alien. They want to force themselves into a country uninvited. They want the American people to cater to their needs and demand that they be accepted no matter what the consequences. Simply by crossing the border they are saying, ¨ I am here whether you like it or not, so deal with it!¨ No matter what you say, Americans have a right to decide and choose who they want in their country and what language should be spoken. It is amongst their rights, which are clearly being violated. What gives Illegals the right to do such disrespectful things? If they have the will power to march and protest on American soil, why not in their home land? Racism is shameful but even if some Americans are racist, it is completely irrelevant. The bottom line is that immigration laws STILL need to be reformed and enforced.  (Nov 26, 2007 | post #374)

Mike Huckabee

Immigration Debate Injures Prominent Presidential Candidates

I am so sorry I dissapointed you in my last post there El Chapin. Though you made some very good points, your condescending attitude is extremely irritating. I don´t know where you get the notion that anyone who does not agree with you is automatically wrong. Not everyone sees things the way you do and, despite what you think, their disagreement does not make them racist or wrong. How dare you even imply that I am racist against my own people. It is completely ridiculous. I am appalled that you think anyone would tolerate the idea of burning the American flag, just because they can. It goes against everything America stands for. If you go to any protests organized by illegals you would see more racism than shown in these forums. Illegals calling American citizens pigs and Hitler fanatics, just because they want their laws enforced. This kind of hostility only makes Americans angrier. Most people are simply just fed up with all the troubles illegals are bringing to the country. It is an issue of agressive massive immigration creating too many undesirable consequences. It has nothing to do with race. If you think that Americans are going to rejoice at the idea of granting amnesty to illegals who burn their flag and demand rights they are certainly not entitled to, you are quite frankly delusional. I am quite aware that most are hard working and capable individuals who want a better life but it is not Americas obligation to grant them that.I know all too well the poverty most people leave behind and the struggles most face but it does not give them any right to break the laws and behave so blatantly.It is this attitude of entitlement and complete disregard for the american people and their laws which anyone would find infuriating. I also have to disagree with you on the idea that ALL are willing to assimilate into American society, because as you put it yourself, there are too many businesses and institutions catering to their cultural needs. The older ones in particular have a very difficult time with it.The negative impacts are not just happening in the US but south of the border as well. Families are broken up and children abandoned for the American Dream. Without any proper parental guidance these children are lost to gang life. Human trafficking and women bieng sold into prostitution is something that happens daily. I am not against immigration at all.I know that a legal low skilled labour force is needed, though that number has clearly been exceeded. I agree that the US needs to reform and enforce their immigration laws. I think the wall is a good idea but it will be useless unless the laws are, first of all, enforced from the inside. I think America is at great risk of losing their country to foreign hands which do not respect or honour their laws and way of life.The illegal border crossing bieng only the first slap across the face. Every day hundreds of people illegally immigrate north and it will only get worse if this is allowed to continue. As far as Mexico gaining a flourishing and better economy, and bieng resentful towards America, it is not far fetched though completely ridiculous. The idea that they would be so ungrateful as to not recognize why their economy is better to begin with, would be the last straw. With all the illegals the US is giving a generous and wonderful education to, and all the work opportunities it continues to provide, resulting in massive amounts of money heading south, nobody should even dream of complaining.  (Nov 19, 2007 | post #251)

Why are El Salvadorian people do not like MEXICANS??

You should take your own advice. My statement about Mexico bieng a third world country was a question and not a statement. In response to you stating Mexico wasn´t third world. Hence, I was pointing out why it is clearly underdeveloped. You yourself said El Salvador was third world and Mexico wasn´t, so what is it then? It certainly isn´t first world.I too never said El Salvador was a perfect country either. I have enough sense to look around me and see that we have a lot of serious problems. It is your last statement which irritates everyone about your mentality and behaviour towards other latin nationalites which infuriates us. That kind of mentality of ¨my country is better than yours¨ breeds arrogance and intolerance.I know not everyone thinks alike so it is all cool. I hope I have made myself clear enough.  (Nov 17, 2007 | post #415)

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And exactly what are you going to do with it when you have it back and the USA wants nothing to do with it? Turn into the same third world country south of the border?  (Nov 13, 2007 | post #75)

Mike Huckabee

Immigration Debate Injures Prominent Presidential Candidates

First of all I just want to state that I am by no means racist and embrace the diversity of the different cultures in America. However, I am completely against illegal immigration especially when it is happening at such a massive rate and with such negative consequences. I have read most of the posts by El Chapin and others and though I agree with some of the things he says I think John Valle made a very strong point. While it is true that we do need some illegal labour it is clear that the number we do need has been more than exceeded. The number of illegal workers is now at the point where they are competing and undercutting the legal citizens of America and that is exactly what is creating the problems and resentment.Most people claim that americans don´t want to do those jobs but who does any unpleasant job because they like it? Any person would take that job in a heartbeat if the pay was rewarding. The fact is that companies are so greedy to get more dollars into their pockets by hiring cheap labour that they are willing to screw over legal citizens. It is true that most agricultural products and housing would be much more expensive but with the wage increases, once the illegals are out and employers are forced to pay better wages, people could afford them. It certainly would be a lot cheaper for the american taxpayers to pay a little more for lettuce than seeing their hard earned money going to social services aiding illegal immigrants.El Chapin stated that they would assimilate into the american culture and that is very true, but the problem is that the illegal population is growing at such a rate that there is absolutely no time or need for it.With the abundance of spanish speakers everywhere and more and more illegals coming into the country everyday people just wouldn´t bother leaving their language or culture behind. The crime rate has dramatically risen due to all the gang affiliation and though I am sure that most illegals try to abide by the rules many don´t and it just creates more foreign criminals to deal with. The american people are bieng exposed to diseases which nobody is aware of since there is no way to verify who has anything dangerous or not. The illegal birth rate is ridiculous and creates just another drain on the social service system. It is clear that they are causing and already have suceeded in diving the american nation.If I see any more racist latin organizations or people burning the american flag I will scream. Those people shold be ashamed of themselves for not embracing and doing anything more than honouring the country which has been nothing but generous to them. The US afer all has no obligation whatsoever to help anyone who is not a legal citizen and after all the negative impact bieng caused by illegal immigration they still continue to do so. The problem needs to be tackled from the inside out. Cutting off any aid to illegal immigrants. No jobs, no social services, no anchor babies, no illegals. Stop giving them reasons to cross your border.  (Nov 12, 2007 | post #116)

Why are El Salvadorian people do not like MEXICANS??

I don´t hate mexicans I just hate idiots like you. You are a disgrace to any race. Our country has plenty of culture just like any other country out there. We have less land and so what? Mexico has its good points and its bad ones. Don´t be getting all high and mighty because your country is not perfect. I have visited a lot of places in Mexico and I saw a lot of horrible things. The corruption in your country is insane. There is a massive difference in living standards going from one extreme to the other,ranging from the elite to the poor. That is why everyone is leaving.There are no opportunities for your people. You have corruption in your police because I have american friends who were mugged by police officers when they went to vacation there. They said your country was disgusting and they never want to go again.You have massive femicide in Juarez and other cities. I am not going to assume every mexican is an idiot like you. I am not like that. I have read about a lot of mexican man who have raped girls as young as five months old, and know plenty of mexican women and girls who are promiscious. That doesn´t mean I am going to say every mexican women is a slut though, because unlike you I don´t generalize. If you had any brains you would see how stupid your comments are. El unico cerote eres tu.  (Nov 4, 2007 | post #400)

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Americans (what you refer to as white people) do not like illegals coming into the country for the following reasons: -massive population increase due to high illegal hispanic birth rates causing overcrowding in schools and other public institutions -taxes going up due to all the social assistance handed out to people who have no right recieving it -people driving illegally causing accidents which later cannot be identified and held responsible due to fake identification -Higher gang affiliation (increase in threatning power due to higher numbers). I am not saying everyone in a gang is illegal but many are and it is just one more to deal with. -A barrier of miscommunication due to spanish and not english speakers -zero screening and higher risk of highly contagious diseases bieng spread among the american people -theft of legal documents resulting in negative misrepresentation -lower wages and fewer jobs for the rightful citizens in America. People would be willing to do those jobs if the pay was higher so don´t give me that crap.Employers just choose illegals over citizens because it is basically free labour. Why would you all be welcome? I don´t see any reason why illegals should be.  (Nov 3, 2007 | post #69)

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I personally think racism is tupid, but the true fact behind all the hate on both sides has nothing to do with colour or what region you are from. It has to do with massive differences in culture and way of life. I love my people but the truth is that most people who illegally immigrate to the US have NO right to be there. Some cannot even read so how can they even be bothered with learing a new language? Women are ignorant and do not know the first thing about birth control. The overpopulation in the latin community is a HUGE problem. It creates a drain on the american resources and overcrowding.Latinos are very beautiful people who know how to work hard, but I DO have a problem with their refusal to respect the country that has been nothing but generous to them. There is hate even within the latino community with different countries arguing which is the best hispanic country. I don´t see why Mexicans or anyone who immigrates to the US should be so damn proud of their country when it has completely failed them. Why not embrace and honor the country and respect the people who have given you a new home? These racist latinos who spew hate against the white community and wave their pathetic flag around are ungrateful and stupid. It makes me so angry to see them. They should keep their mouths shut and be thankful to the american people for creating such a wonderful country that allows them the opportunity to become educated and feed their family.  (Oct 27, 2007 | post #65)

Why are El Salvadorian people do not like MEXICANS??

Wow, you must have bee really busy. If you have slept around with every ¨individual¨ as you say. I take it you have slept with every single woman from El Salvador to make such a broad statement. I know what slut means you idiot and I do take offense to it because I do not think it is right for someone to judge a whole nation of people based on a few handful.When you make stupid statements like that it is exactly what you do. I have had the misfortune of running into stupid people just like you who as soon as they hear that a girl is from El Salvador automatically assumes they are sluts. It is because of your generalization that it happens. What I meant by saying someone should be judged by their merits I mean they should be judged individually and not be tagged to fit under a certain category. I myself do not agree that women should be promiscious especially when they are unprepared to deal to deal with the consequences. I never said I wasn´t. The title of this post said nothing about Salvi sluts as you put it jackass. It is about why Salvadorians hate Mexicans. Though I think it is complete crap to begin with. I am just sick of stupid people like you who put labels on a certain group of people, while you yourself have more then proved you are a SlUT beyond measure.  (Oct 21, 2007 | post #378)

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