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Grand Rapids, MI

What about the whole Trayvon situation?

This is just more dishonesty. Never did this happen. Stop being dishonestThat's a lie. Stop being dishonestThat's a lie. He assaulted GZ, and that's a violent crime. Stop being dishonestIrrevelan t. Stop being dishonestOkay, now your being dilusional. Not only did I not say that, but the two are not comparable. Stop being dishonestThat's a lie. Stop being dishonestThat's a lie. Stop being dishonest  (Jul 22, 2013 | post #469)

Grand Rapids, MI

What about the whole Trayvon situation?

According to him that's just hearsay from an unreliable witness.  (Jul 20, 2013 | post #431)

Grand Rapids, MI

What about the whole Trayvon situation?

It doesn't matter what he "perceived " so much as was the evidence indicated. The 911 call that Z made is excellent evidence that he did not demonstrate a threat as he told dispatch that he wanted the police to meet up with him. Also, there were no offensive indications of a sort on Z, while M's did show such consistencies. There was however evidence on Z of M's attack.  (Jul 20, 2013 | post #429)

Grand Rapids, MI

What about the whole Trayvon situation?

Actually it's you who either doesn't know what your talking about, or is just plain dishonest. TM's Right to SYG was not infringed upon in any way. GZ did not force him to stay, threaten him, or prevent him from leaving in any way. TM assaulted GZ. Unless you can show evidence proving that Z was a reasonable danger to him (and in all these pages you've yet to do so), then the rest is just drivel. Instead, all you've been doing is accuse anyone who disputes your ridiculous claim as ignorant, when it's you who demonstrates that ignorance. I've studied SYG law quite thoroughly, and discussed it with lawyers who would defend someone under it. I know more about it than you apparently do. Unless of course you have some evidence that the prosecution couldn't find that Z was a danger to T. Didn't think so.  (Jul 20, 2013 | post #424)

Grand Rapids, MI

What about the whole Trayvon situation?

There's no evidence to indicate that TM would have perceived a reasonable threat or danger from GZ. TM committed assault and was shot for it in a justifiable homicide. He had no right to assault GZ, and when he did GZ was within his rights to shoot him. The forensic evidence supports this. End of story.  (Jul 20, 2013 | post #421)

Grand Rapids, MI

What about the whole Trayvon situation?

Something else that people keep ignoring that I heard while listening to GZ's 911 call. He did an excellent job of describing the suspicious behavior of Martin. The way he handled the phone call is a good indicator that his intent all along was to just stay at distance and let the police handle the matter. I honestly listened and couldn't see how he could have handled it much differently at the time. Although maybe in the future he'll be less willing to make himself known.  (Jul 20, 2013 | post #419)

Grand Rapids, MI

What about the whole Trayvon situation?

That doesn't matter. All that matters is that TM assaulted GZ, and was shot in the process in a justifiable homicide. Even if GZ were profiling TM it wouldn't matter. GZ did nothing to justify a reasonable fear of danger on TM's part.  (Jul 20, 2013 | post #415)

Grand Rapids, MI

What about the whole Trayvon situation?

I did, and his claims about a murder of an innocent child were just plain dishonest.  (Jul 20, 2013 | post #414)

Grand Rapids, MI

What about the whole Trayvon situation?

Your right about that. That they shouldn't have even brought charges shows how incompetent they are, but there's such an anti self-defense push (people are screaming the race card just to drum up support for that agenda)that they bowed to political pressure. Your a great example of that. Your so bent on your agenda that you misapply law and twist around the events contrary to the forensic evidence. This verdict was a great statement to all the wannabe thugs in society that, "even when there is great political pressure for a lynching, you still don't get free reign to victimize people like GZ."  (Jul 19, 2013 | post #356)

Grand Rapids, MI

What about the whole Trayvon situation?

In this case, the only thing GZ did wrong was not be african-american, and use a gun. People who oppose this verdict would rather there be a dead GZ and one more miscreant walking the streets.  (Jul 19, 2013 | post #355)

Grand Rapids, MI

What about the whole Trayvon situation?

No need to since it was in testimony for the prosecution. (IOW, the prosecution presented it as evidence)  (Jul 19, 2013 | post #351)

Grand Rapids, MI

What about the whole Trayvon situation?

That's a lieThat's a lieTM assaulted GZ, and that has nothing to do with "Stand your ground". Painting it that way is simply dishonest. Trayvon was a bigot (He called GZ a "creeepy Cracka") who assaulted someone for it. It is you who demonstrate ignorance of the SYG law, and you do so dishonestly.  (Jul 19, 2013 | post #342)

Grand Rapids, MI

What about the whole Trayvon situation?

Glenn Tett. Harold Fisch. George Zimmerman. If one wants to find racism, there is a pattern, although it's seems that it's only a race thing when a "reported " white person is attacked by a African-american person. TM knew that GZ was following, and talking to the police, so he decided to double back and ambush him to get a little "payback ". The 911 call demonstrated that GZ was keeping his distance and only trying to point the police in the right direction. In doing that, TM instigated the whole thing, and assaulted GZ. As much as I hate even the idea of racism, if (and the whole "racism" thing has been created by the media and administration) GZ was shouting racial epithets, it wouldn't matter as it was TM who chose to assault someone thereby committing a forcible felony. He left GZ the choice no choice but to defend himself. You don't get to assault someone just because they look different. While I feel for the family, I do not miss having someone on the street who thinks violence is a proper response to someone looking different or calling the police on them.  (Jul 19, 2013 | post #337)

Grand Rapids, MI

Honors camp walkaway carjacks woman, kids

You may transport a gun in your trunk (unloaded) for “lawful purpose” (the law doesn’t define “lawful purpose”, but does give examples that would be included under the term), and a permit is not necessary. As long as it isn’t readily accessible, you should be good. I don’t know the legality of transporting another type of weapons in the trunk, but I wouldn’t recommend telling an officer that the baseball bat in your trunk was for self-defense.  (Sep 19, 2008 | post #119)

Grand Rapids, MI

Honors camp walkaway carjacks woman, kids

a grandmother, I must appolagize, I didn't give you all the pertinent information in my initial post. While the law I cited did relate to concealed pistols, it only outlined the zones in which carrying a concealed pistol is prohibited. Since I gave you the wrong law, I can understand your confusion. Here is the law restriction carrying a concealed weapon. MCL 750.227 THE MICHIGAN PENAL CODE (EXCERPT) Act 328 of 1931 750.227 Concealed weapons; carrying; penalty. Sec. 227. (1) A person shall not carry a dagger, dirk, stiletto, a double-edged nonfolding stabbing instrument of any length, or any other dangerous weapon, except a hunting knife adapted and carried as such, concealed on or about his or her person, or whether concealed or otherwise in any vehicle operated or occupied by the person, except in his or her dwelling house, place of business or on other land possessed by the person. (2) A person shall not carry a pistol concealed on or about his or her person, or, whether concealed or otherwise, in a vehicle operated or occupied by the person, except in his or her dwelling house, place of business, or on other land possessed by the person, without a license to carry the pistol as provided by law and if licensed, shall not carry the pistol in a place or manner inconsistent with any restrictions upon such license. (3) A person who violates this section is guilty of a felony, punishable by imprisonment for not more than 5 years, or by a fine of not more than $2,500.00. Here's the link if you want to look it up. http://www.legisla ture.mi.gov/(S(cbq 0ui55svm1uw45afwax y55))/mileg.aspx?p age=getobject& objectname=mcl-750 -227&query=on &highlight=dan gerous%20AND%20wea pon  (Sep 14, 2008 | post #115)