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Marysville, WA

Hijacker Overtakes Marysville Church!

sorry my first quote keeps getting posted..lol  (Mar 29, 2009 | post #20)

Marysville, WA

Hijacker Overtakes Marysville Church!

First of all, I want you all to know I love and respect you all for your concern about what you believe is heresy or misleading at Turning Point Church. But I just wanted to share that I love the Pastors at Turning Point. But I love Jesus way way more!!! I dont believe Turning Point is the end all be all church. They are far from it. I have been saved for 12 years now and I have been from church to church for years now. 14 churches to be exact. I go where the Holy Spirit wants me to go, sometimes it is for short seasons, some for longer seasons. I can discern the spiritual realm pretty well..not boasting ok..lol. I have rebelled against churches and I was convicted of it back in 2006. Persecuting the church is wrong..and again I am not talking about Turning Point. I am talking about the church as a whole. I came into Turning Point in Aug of 06 and I seriously found life there. I still to this day find life there. Now I understand if people get hurt by a church. Lots of different reasons why someone would leave a church. I left my old church because I had a sharp disagreement with the senior Pastor. But I still believe he is a good man, and a wonderful Pastor. I still keep in touch with him to this very day. Now with the "issues" at Turning Point. Every church has issues, some more than others. But what I want to ask is What do you all believe is the state of the church..again not just Turning Point but the church in America? Is it dead or alive? If you say dead you are correct! So when a church rises up and says "No more!!" people get pissed. Because the western mindset is "Keep what you believe to yourself". And if someone or a group stands up and says "things need to change" they are automatically considered a "cult". Now I know there is always going to be controversy with the whole "Apostle " "Prophet " "Spiritual Parenting" "Prosperity Preaching" stuff. And there always will be. But lets face it, we serve a God who wants us to succeed right? Pastors Mike and Cyndi want their congregation to succeed in life. Not for their own sake but for the congregations sake. Now I know you will counteract with "Yeah but they want their congregation to succeed so they get more in the offering so they can take that home and buy more stuff and rule the city, and keep us "cult members" under their mind control".  (Mar 29, 2009 | post #19)

Marysville, WA

Hijacker Overtakes Marysville Church!

Again I am not trying to demean anyone. I love everyone..seriousl y i do. Jesus said to love your God and love people. Pretty easy command wouldnt you say? Now with the whole Tony Cunningham debacle. I have been under his teachings on numerous occasions. I watch closely when someone speaks ok. I dont just sit back and soak things in like some dumb sheep. If somethings off, I would know it. Now I dont agree with alot of preachers teachings. I think the majority of preachers get things out of context. T.D. Jakes is no different, Joel Osteen, and the list can go on. THe bible is a very complex book to understand. Not everyone is going to get everything correct. This is why the bible is alive and breathing today. God wants us to understand it. Now since were talking about Tony, I will say that people take his teachings way out of context. Spirtual Parenting is used to help immature believers get connected with a mature believer and learn about what it is like to be a christian. Most churches dont do this and feel no need to. Just let the pastor do all the work and then "Oh no..the pastor is burnt out, now he's leaving" Well that's only the 8th pastor to leave in 12 years" Gee I wonder why they leave, because they lead a flock of idiots who dont get fed at all throughout the week. We need to encouraged daily as it says in Thessalonians. In acts they met together daily and fellowshipped. Now I know that you all have your opinions about this church and pastors and Tony Cunningham, and nothing that I say will change your mind. If a man of God is wrong, the Lord will deal with that individual. Now us as believers need to stand up together and unite against the forces of darkness. They are all around us right now. The devil wants us to fight agaist each other..which is what is happening on these forums. It is so ridiculous!! Believers against believers is not taught in scripture. Let us not judge each other or try to expose false teachers. What if your wrong about these teachings? But then again what if they are wrong? The Lord only knows, and like I said He will deal with these issues. Jesus looks to the heart. All I say to you all is seek first the kingdom of God and lets see this country won for Christ!! Just some things to think about. If you get mad at me that's ok, I still love you. I want to see the church unite as one and help save this world from the enemy who is the devil. The enemy is not us..we dont fight against flesh and blood but against principalities and rulers of this dark world. Put on your shield and use your sword to fight in the spiritual realm. Pray for Turning Point..dont criticize. If you believe they need changing..pray for them. I pray all the time because I want to see the body succeed and not fail. Again I love you all and God bless you always.  (Mar 29, 2009 | post #18)

Marysville, WA

Hijacker Overtakes Marysville Church!

First of all, I want you all to know I love and respect you all for your concern about what you believe is heresy or misleading at Turning Point Church. But I just wanted to share that I love the Pastors at Turning Point. But I love Jesus way way more!!! I dont believe Turning Point is the end all be all church. They are far from it. I have been saved for 12 years now and I have been from church to church for years now. 14 churches to be exact. I go where the Holy Spirit wants me to go, sometimes it is for short seasons, some for longer seasons. I can discern the spiritual realm pretty well..not boasting ok..lol. I have rebelled against churches and I was convicted of it back in 2006. Persecuting the church is wrong..and again I am not talking about Turning Point. I am talking about the church as a whole. I came into Turning Point in Aug of 06 and I seriously found life there. I still to this day find life there. Now I understand if people get hurt by a church. Lots of different reasons why someone would leave a church. I left my old church because I had a sharp disagreement with the senior Pastor. But I still believe he is a good man, and a wonderful Pastor. I still keep in touch with him to this very day. Now with the "issues" at Turning Point. Every church has issues, some more than others. But what I want to ask is What do you all believe is the state of the church..again not just Turning Point but the church in America? Is it dead or alive? If you say dead you are correct! So when a church rises up and says "No more!!" people get pissed. Because the western mindset is "Keep what you believe to yourself". And if someone or a group stands up and says "things need to change" they are automatically considered a "cult". Now I know there is always going to be controversy with the whole "Apostle " "Prophet " "Spiritual Parenting" "Prosperity Preaching" stuff. And there always will be. But lets face it, we serve a God who wants us to succeed right? Pastors Mike and Cyndi want their congregation to succeed in life. Not for their own sake but for the congregations sake. Now I know you will counteract with "Yeah but they want their congregation to succeed so they get more in the offering so they can take that home and buy more stuff and rule the city, and keep us "cult members" under their mind control".  (Mar 29, 2009 | post #17)