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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

You may want to try rereading what I wrote. I said marrying for love is a relatively new development. I did not say or even imply that the idea of romantic love is new.  (Feb 24, 2014 | post #214517)

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

We have 3 children, all grown. I absolutely want my children to understand that there is nothing wrong with two adults who wish to make the legal commitment to each other being able to do so. we got it right with two out of the threeTransvestites portray themselves as the gender the associate with. For the most part you would never know and I doubt it would ever be brought up. Again, absolutely no problem with it.  (Feb 21, 2014 | post #213841)

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

I am well aware of the reasoning behind those that oppose SSM. What I am saying is none of them are valid legal arguments. There are two basic reasons. 1) My religion says it is wrong. 2) "They" disgust me (almost always due to how homosexuals have sex). As a white heterosexual married male (yep, that's me) I can't remember one time I have pictured two men having sex. Lesbians on the other hand, they're hot. Yet, those opposed to SSM on non-religious grounds seem to spend an awful lot of time thinking about it. What I have found from my studies of this issue is that if you know a homosexual person personally (friend, neighbor, relative) you are much more likely to think of them as real adults deserving of the same rights and protections afforded to me.  (Feb 21, 2014 | post #213829)

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Yet, obviously, they do. If you disagree with the legal opinion of every federal judge to hear the case so far, maybe you can provide a better legal argument that all of the previous lawyers have. I would love to hear it.  (Feb 21, 2014 | post #213818)

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Same definition, just more words. I simplify it to the basic meaning.  (Feb 21, 2014 | post #213813)

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

7 billion people and you are worried about extinction due to 10% of the population not having childrenI absolutely believe the ideal environment to raise a child is in a safe and loving home with their biological parents (I stated such a few pages ago) But, which is better for the child. An abusive home, an orphanage or a loving, stable home with a same sex couple? Again, you are speaking of children's rightsNot really sure why you feel imposed upon. How does someone else having the ability to marry change your ability to marry or your marriage in any wayNo. I am saying SSM does not need your validation. It is you that bring up procreation. If we allow one group who can't procreate to marry and have no problem with it, how can you deny it to another group simply because they can't procreate without assistance.  (Feb 21, 2014 | post #213811)

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

And there it is... You dislike the idea of SSM because of your religious beliefs. I personally have absolutely no problem with you disliking SSM for religious reasons. All people are allowed to hold on to their beliefs and act accordingly. It's another great thing about our country. Lucky for everyone else in this country, your religious beliefs are not a valid legal argument. When we are speaking legalities, just and fair trump religion every day.  (Feb 21, 2014 | post #213805)

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

http://dictionary. reference.com/brow se/marriage Definition #1 noun 1. (broadly) any of the diverse forms of interpersonal union established in various parts of the world to form a familial bond that is recognized legally, religiously, or socially, granting the participating partners mutual conjugal rights and responsibilities  (Feb 21, 2014 | post #213801)

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

So this would be why every case brought before a federal court concerning the issue has been ruled in favor of same sex marriage due to the equal protection clause of the US ConstitutionLucky for all of us that our laws prevent the will of the majority from suppressing a minority. Isn't it great....  (Feb 21, 2014 | post #213800)

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

You do realize Romeo and Juliet weren't able to marry, right? Did you read the whole play? Spoiler alert.....they dieAh...King Solomon. How many wives did he have again? And who was it that he "loved the most"? (the answer may surprise youAwww...Did I hurt your feelings?  (Feb 21, 2014 | post #213799)

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

I am in no way trying to denigrate marriage. It serves a very useful function in our society. I wish to see it expanded so that more people can benefit from this great institution. But, yes, it was for most of our history all about property. The idea of marrying for "love" (being allowed to marry for love) is a very recent development.  (Feb 21, 2014 | post #213797)

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

While very poetic, simply wrong on so many levels. You again go back to it is the best way to raise children - irrelevant for marriage. Then you add the "blending " - again irrelevant for marriage. Marriage is a legal contract that creates a family unit where one does not already exist. How are same sex couples unable to live up to the definition?  (Feb 21, 2014 | post #213794)

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Yet, you do need one to have a marriage  (Feb 21, 2014 | post #213788)

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

This argument has always amazed me. Do you even realize how many times marriage has been "redefined "? Your "traditional marriage" was between a man and multiple women or between a man and his "property ". The idea a marriage for "love" is very recent (historically speakingAnd again, all completely irrelevant to the legal contract that we call marriage. Do you think we are at risk of going extinct as a species? You keep bringing up continuation of the species. How children should be raised (even though your ideal is no longer the norm). Yet, as stated, procreation is not a requirement or marriage and marriage is not a requirement of procreation. This is the legal quandary those wishing to deny marriage to same sex couples have. The only argument they (you) have against SSM is that they can't reproduce. Sorry, not a valid reason to deny equal protection under the law. As long as other couples who also cannot reproduce are allowed marriage rights, you are creating a separate class which is not allowed in our country.  (Feb 21, 2014 | post #213786)

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Doesn't matter what you said in your vows. The only two entities you made a commitment to are your spouse and your state. And, unfortunately, both of those commitments can be broken just as easily as your "vow" to your god. But, just for fun, what exactly did you say in your vows and who were you talking to when you said the words?  (Feb 21, 2014 | post #213763)

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