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Christ in you vs in union with Christ !

I notice in 2 Cor 13: 5 we are to test if we are in the true faith to see if Christ is in us, but the the NWT have changed it to being in union with Jesus ! I could not find a single translation translating it that way, but as among you was the closest . It seem like an addition to (en) by saying in union as it means the same thing as in harmony with , in unity with or in agreement with ! That is not what the main meaning was of in the context, but rather whether Christ lives in us ! So what say ye JW?  (Wednesday Jun 18 | post #1)

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Adam will not be ransomed , he was a murderer!

Kojoe11"]Just these few comments prove that stupidity will never go away. As Jesus is on record stating that "We will always have the poor among us" So it appears and closely, We will always have the ignorant and faithless as well Yes I agree with you, yet JW are told the great crowd as perfected humans must pass a test based on their own merits before God will accept them as his free sons!  (May 20, 2014 | post #19)

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The big hypocrite Mad JW!

Mad wont defend himself here , yet he has JW supporting him! Heknows replying here will only have folks telling him like it is!  (May 20, 2014 | post #9)

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Adam will not be ransomed , he was a murderer!

Kojoe11" @ Mr Henze.. That is a correct understanding..And here is why i say that.... Do you believe that Adam was created by God, therefore "All Godly Creation is Good and Perfect"? If you believe that, then Who is greater in Perfection? That doesn't make sense. Adam and Jesus were perfect in all aspects of their nature. ...Adam chose to go on a different path, than what his creator wanted and as a moral free citizen he was allowed to go anyway he wanted. That is why Jesus is referred to in scripture as being the 2 nd Adam, meaning God needed to bring another perfect human to replace the rebellious one, Adam. And there wasn't anyone living who could atone what Adam threw away. Hence, God sent his only begotten son who accordingly was instrumental with his father in creating all life forms, whether spiritual or physical. Therefore, God the Father chose to send his son and ordered that his name be called Jesus. So my position is, there can not be a Savior or Redeemer for the 1 st Adam because he was created flawless meaning perfect. And the 2 nd Adam, lived and died as a faithful servant to his God and Father, thus reconciling mankind back to God the Father. [O T Law...Eye for Eye, principle.} >.Nowhere does scripture say Adam was a perfect being when God created him/Jesus being the second Adam after his resurrection is Adam = Man with a body !  (May 17, 2014 | post #16)

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The big hypocrite Mad JW!

"Supremeliber al"]Pat Henze are you a Jehovah Witness ,if Mad JW do not believe in the existience of god how can he blaspheme so one ,faith alone cannot prove the existience of God ,without any viable evidence >>His way of speaking to people shows he might defend JW beliefs but are not one!  (May 17, 2014 | post #6)

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The big hypocrite Mad JW!

He is a rude and nasty person calling people names and blasphemy flows from his mouth .He sure doesn't represent God by how he acts >.Yes Pat he used a different alias on Jehovahs Witnesses and Biblical discussion board on facebook as the Doc , just after his first post we all knew it was Mad JW!  (May 15, 2014 | post #3)

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Who was / is Jesus according to scriptures ?

Mad JW"]Yes- for Jesus SAID that few WOULD find truth, and that most WOULDN'T. Narrow and broad road. What's so sad, Billy, is that you STILL do when shown all the biblical FACTS. Church FICTION is more important to you. From now on youllbe known as Hopocrite Mad JW!  (May 15, 2014 | post #128)

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Never did they say..Words of Jehovah

"Mikronboy "]Hmmm...just compare what the WT says and please make up your own mind! Awake, 3-22-93: >>Jehovah’s Witnesses, in their eagerness for Jesus’ second coming, have suggested dates that turned out to be incorrect. Because of this, some have called them false prophets. Never in these instances, however, did they presume to originate predictions ‘in the name of Jehovah.’ Never did they say, ‘These are the words of Jehovah.<< : Know Jehovah 1971 >>Was there no one, then, whom Jehovah could raise up to serve in a way that corresponded to that of that ancient exile in Babylon? Whom could the real “chariot” of Jehovah’s organization roll up to and confront that He might bestow upon this qualified one the commission to SPEAK AS A PROPHET IN THE NAME OF JEHOVAH? Ah, there was a group whose members had suffered religious persecution during World War I at the hands of Babylon the Great, the world empire of false religion, and whose members had, in fact, come out from the religious organizations of Babylon the Great. In fact, they had refused to be a party with Christendom and with all the rest of Babylon the Great in actively taking part in carnal warfare during World War I. Who were they?<< So there you go. All of the old "we never said our false prophecies came from Jehovah" excuses gone right out the window They contradicted themselves in that very booklet as on page 4 it said : The CREATORS PROMISE of a secure ....  (May 15, 2014 | post #9)

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The big hypocrite Mad JW!

You know folks we all know that Mad JW have a deep profounded hatred for the churches using slogan such as churchoids and churchanity and even the way he talks ! I do not believe he a JW at all ! But what ticked me of is that he has at least for different board on facebook and he runs by different aliases ! After being two years on all his boards he deleted all my links to it! Now this is the guy who goes on Christian chat boards telling them how wrong they are and the churches yet when folks shows the org he defends are nothing better than those they are forever condemning then you are a problem! So I brought this under you attention to show how Mad just drag his own name further by his actions!  (May 15, 2014 | post #1)

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Adam will not be ransomed , he was a murderer!

Aneirin" Christ's ransom only pays for the sin we inherited from Adam - the sin that resides in our flesh. *** Rom 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God did, sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh; *** Rom 5:19 For as through the one man's disobedience many were made sinners, even so through the obedience of the one, many will be made righteous. *** Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: Adam did not have any sin when he chose to disobey God and therefore he is not covered by Jesus Christ's ransom. >>Before I respond , do you also agree with the WT that the 144 000 are given immortality immediately upon death and the great crowd are raised perfect like Adam having to pass a test before God can accept them as free sons based on their own merits and that after the 1000 years they can still sin and die? >.Are you going to answer Anerin?  (May 15, 2014 | post #11)

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Adam will not be ransomed , he was a murderer!

Aneirin" Christ's ransom only pays for the sin we inherited from Adam - the sin that resides in our flesh. *** Rom 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God did, sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh; *** Rom 5:19 For as through the one man's disobedience many were made sinners, even so through the obedience of the one, many will be made righteous. *** Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: Adam did not have any sin when he chose to disobey God and therefore he is not covered by Jesus Christ's ransom. >>Before I respond , do you also agree with the WT that the 144 000 are given immortality immediately upon death and the great crowd are raised perfect like Adam having to pass a test before God can accept them as free sons based on their own merits and that after the 1000 years they can still sin and die?  (May 12, 2014 | post #9)

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Adam will not be ransomed , he was a murderer!

According to the Insight of the Scrip Vol 2p. 733 - 736 they say Adam will not be ransomed since he was a deliberate murderer! Thus the sacrificed life of Jesus is not acceptable to God as a ransom for Adam the sinner!  (May 11, 2014 | post #1)

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The things the W/T forgot to explain about 607 B.C.E.!

No. How could the desolation start before Jerusalem was desolated? You says 607 to 537 is 70 years the the WTS has the 70 years ending 539 which one is correct ?  (May 5, 2014 | post #541)

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JW receive environmental award in Mexico! Are they due th...

Aneirin" ]Jealous much? >>Are you kidding me , how many folks know the WTS was registered as a cultural organization in Mexico when the Mexican government anounced religions may not own property ?  (Apr 29, 2014 | post #7)

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JW receive environmental award in Mexico! Are they due th...

What I find interesting is that they would show the award being received on their website but not link one to any charity they have founded or run!  (Apr 1, 2014 | post #2)