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Prove there's a god.

Humanism recognized that, not Christianity. Your religion has always been an impediment to rights.  (1 hr ago | post #822064)

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Prove there's a god.

LOL. As your god dies, human and civil rights increase.  (2 hrs ago | post #822060)

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Prove there's a god.

LOL. http://i.imgur.com /2eIl5Qg.png [Thanks, Juice]  (3 hrs ago | post #822020)

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Prove there's a god.

That raises an interesting question about where Jesus is now, and why he hasn't returned yet. Jesus floated upward on Easter Day, 33 CE. Do we know what time? In order to know in which direction he was launched, we need to know what part of the galaxy was on his zenith at T = 0 (liftoff). Whatever direction that was, unless he went into warp drive, he's still in the our spiral arm of the Milky Way galaxy - the Orion-Cygnus arm - which is about 3500 light years in width. If heaven is located in the supermassive black hole at galactic center, he's still a good 25,000 light years from his heavenly home. This may be why he hasn't come back again.  (3 hrs ago | post #822019)

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Prove there's a god.

Have you really? I spent my Christmas with a group of about a dozen people, about half of which were church going Christians. There wasn't a single mention of Jesus, virgins, magi, Jehovah, prayer, faith, or the bible - just ham, turkey, egg nog, and a gift exchange around a tinsel laden tree. Jesus has been sucked out of Xmas like an unwanted fetus. Ho, ho, ho!  (3 hrs ago | post #822006)

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Prove there's a god.

Nah. I don't care.  (10 hrs ago | post #821794)

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Prove there's a god.

Do you credit the teaching of the Christian bible for that, or the effect of several centuries of humanistic influence restricting and modifying Christian thought, something the Muslims typically haven't had the benefit of? Christians are better than Muslims, but their bibles teach roughty the same primitive, brutal morality including extreme misogyny.  (16 hrs ago | post #821680)

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If you want to manufacture support for atrocities, you can't do better than have a Christian nation to demagogue. Jac keeps asking about foundations for moral thought. What is a less adequate foundation than the belief that whatever a god does or commands is moral, however horrible it may seem to a puny human mind not up to comprehending the transcendent goodness in a Holocaust of the "Christ killers"?  (16 hrs ago | post #821673)

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Prove there's a god.

Yet humanism has consistently outperformed Christianity, so it appears that the chemicals in the meat machines unencumbered by a god belief are outperforming those saddled with it. Christian apologetic sophistry cannot substitute for empiricism unless you let it. You have to look up from your holy book and look at the world if you want to see what is real and true.  (16 hrs ago | post #821670)

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Prove there's a god.

There is none. But there is in secular humanism. The foundation is the assets of an enlightened humanity. What is the foundation for morality in Christianity? I'll tell you: A bad book that describes an immoral god that commands you to obey the book and its ancient, irrational, unjustified precepts. That is not a foundation for morality. It is a foundation for immorality.  (16 hrs ago | post #821668)

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Prove there's a god.

Except that we don't care about your god, but do care about human and civil rights, so the trend is to toss out the former and go forward with the latter. What foundation are you talking about in Christianity? There is certainly no foundation in Christianity for such things as the freedom of worship that you cherish, or freedom of speech. Worshiping your god has been the foundation for preserving ignorance, tyranny, and tribalism. After centuries of Christian governments, we still had almost no rights. Mankind is the foundation of every aspect of human culture not inherited biologically, including your god, which man invented. We do better without bibles and churches holding back his progress. Look at how religion has held you back. It filled your head with the memes you're mindlessly repeating here - these jejune questions. Your intellectual development has been impaired by your faith such that you are still wondering about things that are readily apparent to those that developed in the humanistic tradition. We've left you behind because your church held you back. If you are young enough, and you have the courage to remake yourself, you can still recover.  (16 hrs ago | post #821666)

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A few of the Christians posting here have claimed the winter solstice holiday for Jesus. Some actually resent sharing the season with other traditions so much that they call the use of the inclusive phrase "happy holidays" or a challenge to the claim that Jesus is the "reason for the season" a war on Christmas. Seriously. Have you ever heard anything as self-centered or divisive? So an occasional reminder that Jesus is just a johnny-come-lately and that Christmas is a hitchhiker onto the winter solstice celebrations, while not news, is in order for those that flunked sharing in kindergarten.  (17 hrs ago | post #821637)

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Prove there's a god.

Was that an argument for Christianity? Christians use the word "cu*t" and there is nothing to stop them. In fact, your bible encourages them to think of women as inferior. By Genesis 3, women are depicted as chattel deserving sorrow: [1] "I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee."-- Genesis 3:16 “The bible teaches that a father may sell his daughter for a slave [Ex. 30:7], that he may sacrifice her purity to a mob [Judges 19:24; Gen. 19:8], and that he may murder her, and still be a good father and a holy man. It teaches that a man may have any number of wives; that he may sell them, give them away, or swap them around, and still be a perfect gentleman, a good husband, a righteous man, and one of God's most intimate friends; and that is a pretty good position for a beginning. It teaches almost every infamy under the heavens for woman, and it does not recognize her as a self-directing, free human being. It classes her as property, just as it does a sheep: and it forbids her to think, talk, act, or exist, except under conditions and limits defined by some priest.” - Helen H Gardener The New Testament is no better for women: [2] But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman [is] the man; and the head of Christ [is] God. - 1 Corinthians 11:3 [3] For a man indeed ought not to cover [his] head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man. For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man. Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man. - 1 Corinthians 11:7-9 Romans says that the natural use of women is for sex: [4] And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. - Romans 1:27 The bible says that women need to shut up: [5] Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. - 1 Timothy 2:11-12 - [6] Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. - 1 Corinthians 14:34-36 Why not just write, "STFU bitch"? http://snipurl.com /29k3qtc "Women should not be enlightened or educated in any way. They should, in fact, be segregated as they are the cause of hideous and involuntary erections in holy men." - St. Augustin Women's rights are a feature of secular humanist philosophy, not Christianity  (Yesterday | post #821540)

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Prove there's a god.

Exactly. The Christians want to claim to be the source of the rights we enjoy, such as freedom of speech and the right to privacy, but such ideas are nowhere to be found in their bible, and were not part of the era of history in which Christianity was part of government. It wasn't until secularists had a shot at designing governments that these things came to fruition, including church-state separation. Christianity is a lie from its inception, and it sustains itself with more lying such as thelie about biblical rights. Buck Crick likes to argue that our rights come from a god because the Declaration of Independence refers to a creator as the source of rights. Never mind that that our "creator " - whatever that is - never bothered to tell us about those rights, help us define them, nor help us to win or maintain them. Regarding the continual lying, a system of thought that has to lie starting in childhood to survive is not worth preserving. If it can't convince mature minds capable of critical thought using only the truth, it should perish. How can that not be correct?  (Yesterday | post #821538)

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Prove there's a god.

Fail.  (Yesterday | post #821376)

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