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earl edward timms

He apparently plead out, went from Pre-trial docket to felony motion docket. Sentencing is at 1:30 on 12/13/12.  (Oct 22, 2012 | post #9)

Elk City, OK

Anyone here anything about Edward Timms, from Leedey, tr...

I'm really kind of surprised at this manuever. Most of the time lawyers use it when they plan on using an affirmative defense or some other legal manuever/theory that they feel a jury wouldn't be able to grasp. Sometimes its also used when they feel a jury may convict on emotion rather than law. In this case with the defense asking for DNA samples I wonder if they will go after that part os the state's evidence and I don't know what type of DNA testing was done if it was just a mitchondrial, PCR or STR analysis. Generally, Id prefer to take my chaces with 12 jurors than 1 judge. From bench trial- judges seem to be more leniant with evidence being submitted, and may allow issues to be brought in that a jury wouldnt normally hear. More often then not their reasoning is they would have had to rule on its admissability anyway so they can just rule on that as they deliberate.  (Sep 8, 2012 | post #370)

Elk City, OK

Anyone here anything about Edward Timms, from Leedey, tr...

My understanding from online court docket is he waived a jury trial.  (Sep 6, 2012 | post #364)

Elk City, OK

Anyone here anything about Edward Timms, from Leedey, tr...

The court date is a metter of public record and is available online. IN MOST states and on PACER now you can also get to see the documents being filed as well. As far as other comments those are just thoughts or opinions, kinda like yours saying to stick to "ur family, etc." Once evidence comes out at trial or whatever, everyone will have a chance to re-assess those as well.  (Sep 5, 2012 | post #361)

Elk City, OK

Anyone here anything about Edward Timms, from Leedey, tr...

You are absoutely correct- people make mistakes and hopefully learn and change for the good, but in almost every society they are still held accountable for their actions. Using your rationale, it appears that we should not concern ourselves with any criminal that acts godly after they are accused of committing an offence. It's great that he goes to church and has been baptized. That's the exact reason why the court allows a defendant to speak before a sentence is formally pronounced. I do appreciate your advice about being more concerned with my own life. I will try to remember that next time I get dispatched to a stucture fire or a medical call.  (Jun 10, 2012 | post #302)

Elk City, OK

Anyone here anything about Edward Timms, from Leedey, tr...

There has been a lot of talk on here about Edward's guilt/intent etc. In looking at recent filings and court dates, it appears his attorney filed a motion to supress a statement. So either they are arguing that a statement was coerced or made while in custody before being Mirandized. In my experience working in court admin. I would make 2 observations 1) The motion to supress is a standard filing when the defendant is near the end of teh road when trying to find a defense and I would guess 80-90% of those motions fail. 2)The statements they are seeking to supress are usually pretty damning towards the defendant. I guess my impression is this.... if the judge denies the motion his lawyer is going to earn his money trying to get a decent plea deal if he gets one offered at all.  (Mar 7, 2012 | post #258)

Elk City, OK

Anyone here anything about Edward Timms, from Leedey, tr...

While I understand what you are trying to say, the justice system is premised on punishing prior bad behavior. Some bad decisions are made in matter of seconds and some planned out for years. Bygones are acceptable to some people as you express, but usually only until its a member of their family that is a victim. If he has changed as you believe most cases allow for they introduction of character at sentencing IF hes convicted and it even goes that far.  (Mar 2, 2012 | post #256)

Elk City, OK

Anyone here anything about Edward Timms, from Leedey, tr...

I belive I saw this article in an online edition of Clinton Daily News. As far as the quotes from the article, in most cases that's found in the form of a complaint if an instant arrest or affidavit when applying for a warrant and is a matter of public record. In either case its usually the initial filing of a criminal case and only indicates that there is probable cause that a crime has been committed and that the defendant committed it....a much lower standard then beyond a reasonable doubt.  (Jan 8, 2012 | post #235)

Elk City, OK

Anyone here anything about Edward Timms, from Leedey, tr...

Probable Cause found for a charge of Assault/Battery with Intent to Kill. Defendant Ordered to appear for Formal arraignemnt on January 9 at 130  (Nov 18, 2011 | post #225)

Elk City, OK

Anyone here anything about Edward Timms, from Leedey, tr...

I dont know what the guy would say as I have never met him, but according to US DOJ "evidence based prosecution" conviction rate approaches 80%  (Oct 25, 2011 | post #217)

Elk City, OK

Anyone here anything about Edward Timms, from Leedey, tr...

OK, I realize you are a nurse, but if he sat on her back and twisted her head and neck. It would be hard to break her neck becuase those muscles would protect that area.You would probably have to get it well past the shoulder to create that type of torsion. Even if teh neck was broke it doesnt mena shed be paraliyzed unless spinal cord as injured. As far as the hyoid bone being broke while true that its is commonly seen in asphyxiations strangulations.Its closer to the jaw than phyarnyx nad is used mostly for lower jaw and toungue to attach. I agree its he said she said, thats where photos and all that other evidence would have to be used.  (Aug 27, 2011 | post #195)

Elk City, OK

Anyone here anything about Edward Timms, from Leedey, tr...

Troll has been upset ever since women were given the right to vote as well. But at least hes honest in using technological terms like his screen name.  (Aug 24, 2011 | post #192)

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Was there some type of hearing that happended that we are already discussing perjury? In 3/4 of domestic abuse cases spouces dont testify, IF (emphasis added) the state has eyewitness, mnedical records, a confession and photos, her testifying would probably do very little anyway. Spousal prividge attached she cant really be forced to.  (Aug 20, 2011 | post #187)

Elk City, OK

Anyone here anything about Edward Timms, from Leedey, tr...

http://www1.odcr.c om/detail.php?Case =020-PO%20%2011000 32&County=020- 05/03/2011 CM: DLD/DV DEFENDANT APPEARS WITH ATTORNEY MACK MARTIN FOR PROTECTIVE ORDER HEARING. DEFENDANT DOES NOT OBJECT TO THE PROTECTIVE ORDER. COURT AUTHORIZES PROTECTIVE ORDER FOR 3 YEARS AND ORDERS DEFENDANT TO HAVE NO CONTACT WITH PETITIONER DURING THAT TIME. DEFENDANT IS ORDERED TO PAY COURT COSTS.  (Aug 3, 2011 | post #175)

Elk City, OK

Anyone here anything about Edward Timms, from Leedey, tr...

Living so far away I dont know Mr. Burl is except from what people are posting on here. I do know that being a SUPPOSED "man of God" or a preacher anymore is as simple as paying $100 over the internet, not only are you a "preacher " buit you get a doctorate in Divinity as well. (Obviously, the first amendment probably prohibts any governmental regulation. Look at that whack job in Wichita that protests at soldiers funerals) He can say what he wants, but evidence is evidence whether circumstantial or physical and it will be up to 12 people of Edward's peers to determine if she made it up as some are suggesting  (Jul 2, 2011 | post #154)