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Scabies

Is it possible

Hi FedUp, it was the oral pills, one per day. Forgot to mention, Ketoconazole is an antifungal pharmaceutical med.  (Mar 3, 2008 | post #5)

Scabies

Is it possible

Howdy folks, well I finally found out what's been plaguing me for the last six months. Not scabies but an invasive fungal infection of the skin. When I originally saw an MD in November, he said doesn't look like scabies but the rashes look like a fungus. I've never had jock itch or anything like that, so I just didn't wanna believe it. Plus I had lots of crawlers and pinpricks and little straight burrows. I figured it had to be scabies. Folks, be aware, some skin fungus infections produce symptoms very, very similar to scabies symptoms. It all makes sense now, why this always flared up right after I ate and eating sugar immediately made the symptoms worse. Sugar is fungus food! Also, I started to doubt it was scabies after weeks of putting "samples " under my microscope and I never found a single mite. All I saw in the scope were little segmented thread-like things and what looked like clumps of disintegrating tiny balls or speres. I didn't realize it at the time, but I was looking at fungus! I went back to the same doc and he was even more confident this time that I had a fungal infection. He rx'd Prednisone (anti-inflammatory ) along with Ketoconozole. Well after a week of that I am just about 100% cured and feeling great! Also, I found a very powerful anti-fungal, anti-microbial lotion at Whole Foods called Theraneem Neem Leaf & Oil Lotion. I highly recommend this lotion folks and it's reasonably priced at $12/bottle. It has extracts from both Neem seeds and leaves. So glad this long nightmare is over!  (Mar 2, 2008 | post #3)

Scabies

I am cured using perm cream and tea tree oil

Howdy folks, well I was already seemingly well down the road to a cure from my "scabies " but I recently finally got around to ordering some Humco brand sublimed sulfur powder (have used MSM powder previously which seemed helpful). Just wanted to warn folks, if you put some of the sublimed sulfur powder in your bath, don't put in a whole bunch because it's rather harsh on the skin at such a level of concentration. I took the whole 12oz bottle and mixed it in a blender full of water. I put about 2 cups of that mix in my bath and soaked for about an hour and a half. That was way too much. It made my skin reddened, dry, itchy and irritated all over. It looks like a full-body sunburn. Next time I will put in much less. I seem to have greatly reduced my "mite" load, however, so I'm real happy about that. I'm using quotation marks because I'm just not sure anymore what the heck I have (or had). Whatever it was, it was something very similar to scabies and extremely hard to get rid of. BTW, I've also been putting household bleach (chlorine aka sodium hyperchlorite) in my baths recently. I saw that mentioned here in a thread, and the poster recommended 1/2 cup bleach in the bath daily as a cure for scabies. I found 1/2 cup to be a very dilute amount, that would be about the concentration found in a swimming pool, maybe even less. Four cups in the bath is definitely too much. I was concerned about how safe or unsafe soaking in bleach might be. I googled and couldn't found out too much other than that you need a really concentrated dose of chlorine to cause harm. You can use less bleach but soak in it longer to achieve the same exposure. It did seem to help. Just wanted to share my experiences in case it might help somebody. Good luck and blessings to all!  (Feb 20, 2008 | post #3)

Scabies

Scabies Is Highly Contagious

Nam, I have to say it seems something fishy is going on with respect to the bug you found, LOL. I thought you took a photo of this with some kind of microscopic camera?! That looks like a common beetle of some kind and it looks like it's about the size of a common house fly, maybe a little larger. Anyway, that beetle has nothing to do with scabies whatsoever. I think it's safe to say that you've posted a photo of a harmless beetle.  (Feb 14, 2008 | post #6111)

Scabies

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Oral ivermectin horse paste does NOTHING for humans. It will not kill a single mite. Stromectol (rx Ivermectin tablets) has helped me tremendously, but it won't kill all my mites. I recently took 45mg of Stromectol over 2 days (I weight 175 lbs/75 kg). Just like the first time I took it months ago (12 mg Stromectol), it helped me tremendously and really beat the buggers back down. Once again, however, after one week it wore off and the scabies were right back at it. BTW, this was not reinfestation from my environment, the Stromectol failed to kill all the mites, I know that for sure. Ivermectin will not cure the scabies I have, I doubt I will try it again, it is expensive. Also, don't bother with trying a higher dose, it won't do anything more than what the 200mcg/kg of bodyweight recommended dose will do for you. Good luck.  (Feb 11, 2008 | post #136)

Scabies

Scabies Is Highly Contagious

ICantTakeThis, this is a difficult situation for anyone. To find an MD who could make a single relevant, intelligent and useful statement on these skin/scabies/paras ite issues you would have to speak with a doctor/scientist whose life's work is studying scabies, parasites, etc. in a laboratory. Your local doctor or derm knows NOTHING more about this kinda stuff than what can be found in your encyclopedia at home. It's scary and very unsettling to accept that fact, but a fact it is. Now, however, your doctor can still prescribe meds that could help you or even cure this, so you can not wisely abandon your local MDs/derms. Myself, I had a very serious mite infestation that was unbelievably virulent, these things just absolutely would NOT quit. My symptoms matched a scabies diagnosis very well, IMHO. But with some important distinctions. If I had something other than scabies, then it was something very similar to scabies but not in the medical literature. Please keep in mind, we are dealing with the organic world and life-forms. It is not a constant reality. Nature is changing from moment to moment. Following are some ways in which my case was perhaps atypical: 1. Unbelievably virulent 2. This was an infection in my body (skin), it was not a case of "pest elimination". 3. Environmental "contaminatio n" or "re-infestati on" had nothing to do with my case, once the systemic infection in my body was cured, there were no more mites on me or crawling in my clothing, etc. 4. Highly visible burrows were ubiquitous in most of my infected/rash areas. The borrows were tiny straight lines, never curved or zig-zagging, often in a criss-cross kind of pattern and varying from 1/8th inch. to 2/3rd in. in length. 5. You are really not supposed to be able to feel individual mites crawling on you. I definitely could. 6. Scabies is not supposed to go above the scalp. I had them try to colonize my eyes and tear ducts a couple of times. I constantly had a little group of mites sitting in the hair at the very top of my head, they would kinda wiggle around or something so that there presence was obvious and very distressing. Finally, I shaved all my head hair bald and got a real nasty shock: I had rashes/burrows on my scalp, no wonder they were always sitting up there! 7. No rashes/burrows on hands, wrists. This stuff is mysterious, and to a degree, you will be forced to assume the role of "Sherlock Holmes". Your local doctor is not going to play Sherlock Holmes on your behalf, and honestly, he/she really couldn't care less about what you are dealing with (WTF? Yeah but it's true...) I visited with 2 MD's and a derm, all 3 said, "Well, doesn't look like scabies to me". The last doc came in the exam room, stood 6 ft away from me the whole time, hardly looked at me, and said: "You want some medication, what do you want". I asked him for an rx for 40 3mg Stromectol tablets and he prescribed me only 5 to be taken in a single dose, even though I had already tried that and it failed to cure me, and I had explained that to him. He obviously did not really know anything about scabies whatsoever. BTW, I copied the rx and went all over town with it, wink wink. Last friday I took 15mg of Stromectol tabs, that's my dose of 200mcg/kg for my body weight of 75kg. The next day I took 30mg. There were no side effects and it helped me tremendously. 200mcg/kg is really the baseline minimum effective dose for Stromectol, IMHO. For my case, however, I don't think Ivermectin can work as a "stand-alone " cure. One thing's for sure, Stromectol totally crippled whatever I had, the mites were totally "poisoned " and paralyzed and could no longer function effectively. I will write more about my strange case as time goes by and I become convinced that I am really completely cured of this horrible "thing". Best of luck to you in your battle, ICantTakeThis and others....  (Feb 6, 2008 | post #6030)

Scabies

MSM vs. other sulfers - anybody tried both?

GoOd day, vodka is not a substitute for Everclear. Not at all. You need grain alcohol aka ethanol. Yeah, I forgot, it's actually illegal in some states (...Amerika...). The reason for the water dilution is the oxygen in the water helps the ethanol to oxidize (destroy) microbes and "bad guys". Google ethanol if you wanna. Oh yeah, remember if you apply grain alcohol aka Everclear on healthy skin (without open cuts or wounds), guess what happens: NOTHING! (other than a very slight warming sensation). So it can function as a diagnostic tool, also, applying it made my burrows very visible because they turn bright red, in fact I was able to see many teeny-tiny burrows that I didn't even know where there (gross!). As for MSM, in my case it definitely helped repel the mites, but it did not "cure" me of them, not even close. I never did get around to trying the stinky sublimed sulfur aka "flowers of sulphur". Blessings to all, IHadItBad  (Feb 6, 2008 | post #29)

Scabies

MSM vs. other sulfers - anybody tried both?

ICan'tTakeThis, I experienced quite a bit of the flaking/sloughing off of skin during my infestation. This occurred only in the areas where I had rash/infestation. The skin became sorta dry and powdery, and the topmost layer of skin would regularly flake off. This was NOT from over-itching the areas, but the rubbing/itching helped to slough off the drying/flaking skin. I found some similar consequences of Tea Tree Oil/TTO and sulfur application. Both products seemed to accelerate this process of skin drying/flaking off. Also, both products would mildly redden and irritate the rashy areas, making some of the skin symptoms a little worse, but it was worth it. Some people conclude that they must be allergic to sulfur, or that Tea Tree Oil isn't a good product for them. I doubt either is true. Don't forget, if you are a healthy person without scabies or whatever, if you put Tea Tree Oil or sulfur on your skin, guess what happens: NOTHING! So the real cause of the symptoms is the illness/infestatio n. Also, I experienced the drying/sloughing/f laking skin in my infested areas before I was treating with anything. That was back when I knew I had something, but didn't have a clue yet and was not doing any treatments whatsoever at the time. If you wanna try a new treatment, try this: Go buy a pint of Everclear grain alcohol aka ethyl alchohol aka ethanol at your local liquor store. Dilute the Everclear with filtered or bottled water so that the solution is 70% ethanol, 30% water. Ethanol is a powerful microbicide and disinfectant. Unlike rubbing alcohol, it is non-toxic to the skin and safe for repeated use, also it is much, much more powerful as a disinfectant than rubbing alcohol (isopropyl alcohol). Ethanol will oxidize any microbes and kill scabies and lay their burrows/moulting pouches to waste! Okay, moisten a cotton ball with the 70% Everclear/30% water solution and just very lightly swab one of your rashy/infested areas and see what happens. DO NOT APPLY EVERCLEAR IF YOU HAVE OPEN SKIN WOUNDS OR A REALLY BAD OR BLOODY RASH! In my experience, grain alcohol lays scabies to waste in minutes and the next day the rash will clear up. It is by far the closest thing to the “magic bullet” for scabies of all the many things I tried. This can sting real bad and be quite painful, then the pain goes away and you feel a real intense warming, hot sensation, then lastly you notice that you feel a lot better. If you can tolerate this and it does not worsen your rashes, (it shouldn't), apply more of the Everclear and apply every few hours. In my experience, once the scabies and burrows were "dead", then the rashes changed as they dried up and went away. During this stage, you do not wanna apply the Everclear/water mixture at all, because your skin and the rashes are much too sensitive. If you try this, please post your experiences here and I can try to advise you as best I can. In my experience, the Everclear/water treatment was great to rotate with Tea Tree Oil applications. I found I could only apply Tea Tree Oil so much and then go off it for a few days, because it would really thicken and stiffen my skin, and then later the topmost layer of skin would fall off. BTW, TTO does not cause any permanent skin damage. You will grow a new skin layer and be okay again, I did that many times. I also believe that if you apply a strong concentration of TTO (>30%) regularly, it thickens and saturates the topmost skin layer enough that the mites really have a hard time burrowing and infesting.  (Feb 5, 2008 | post #25)

Scabies

scabies in the UK - i'm going crazy

Don't bother with Ivercare 1.87% ivermectin oral horse paste. It does absolutely nothing for humans. I know. I've tried Ivermectin tablets from my local pharmacy (physican prescribed), which worked well. I tried the Ivercare horse paste and even took multiple doses per day after awhile, just to confirm my suspicions that it is complete bunk as a human treatment for scabies.  (Jan 15, 2008 | post #4)

Scabies

scabies in the UK - i'm going crazy

Don't bother with Ivercare 1.87 horse paste. It may do something positive for horses, but it sure don't do diddly for humans. This is a complete waste of money. I know, I've used that and also Ivermectin tablets prescribed by a physican and received from my local pharmacy.  (Jan 15, 2008 | post #3)

Scabies

I am cured using 100% undiluted tea tree oil.

Had a third night of sleep with pretty much no mite activity. What a blessing. Amazing how good it felt to get a restful night's sleep like a normal person. When I awoke and got out of bed, I squatted and passed a Bic lighter flame under my perianal area and inguinal creases where they love to hang out. Sure enough, I heard a few "crisps" as the mites' exoskeletons where consumed in the flame. Last week I shaved all my body hair, and I mean all of it. That way you know the "crisp" sound is a mite burning up, and not your hair burning, which makes a very similar crisping noise. Has anyone else noticed that the size of the mites changes. At the very beginning before I knew what I had, I felt a few pinpricks here and there but not much crawling at all. When I was most heavily infested they were bigger and stronger, I could feel them hatch out, feel them crawling on me, and once (only once) I caught a big one and saw it on my fingertip. It was very small, a translucent whitish color, and I could see very tiny legs wriggling around. That's the only time I saw one ever. For the last couple of weeks as this has been clearing up, I've had very few crawlers. The remaining mites seem to be very, very tiny. These are the wispy little ones that like to go in my eyes. When these little guys burrow in or hatch, it is very hard to notice. People think they are cured and wonder how they got reinfested. Well, the mites came back because you still had at least a couple of live burrows. As long as there are viable burrows, you will still have the scabies. One thing about the bigger mites, they are real easy to feel and incinerate with your Bic lighter. Oh and it's so satisfying to kill 'em this way!  (Jan 6, 2008 | post #7)