What do you think of gay marriage?
They're not *my* numbers, but you do not disappoint -- you consistently change your name, you are consistently vague when it is helpful ("includes a significant percent from other states"), you pull specific numbers out of your butt when it suits you (1,095,000????), and you ignore that by 2006 Census data, less than 75% of Californians were adults, and less than half (48.5%) of all California adults were married at all. Let's not also forget that many non-resident heterosexuals get married in this state as well. I've got a better idea for your cut and paste shenanigans. Just type "I hate everyone I don't understand." (Thursday Oct 9 | post #11211)
Gay Issues on Back Burner in Presidential Election
Even when it was about us, it wasn't really about us. That's Republicans and Democrats. That's the real shame. But I have to still think that civil rights are the most important discussion/issue we can have. It's the foundation of that world we live in. When, if, we ever get that right, the rest will follow. (Thursday Oct 9 | post #3)
What do you think of gay marriage?
Ben Confused, Ben Wrong, Ben Fullamyself, Mr. Pekin-geese, Wilhelmina, or whatever humanoid form of hate into which you've recently morphed, you're going to have to change your cut n' paste a bit. Though you (of course) haven't defined "significant percent", and I'll guess that whatever # anyone comes up with won't meet your approval, a significant percent *has* married in California since some have finally had the cahones to determine that 1.) we are not a theocracy, 2.) ALL Americans should have equal treatment, and 3.) heterosexuals shouldn't have special rights. Thus far, 11,440 gay couples have wed in California, out of an estimated 109,000 same sex couples in CA according to census information (that leaves out all the closet cases -- like yourself -- but who live in CA). http://www.nytimes .com/2008/10/08/us /08gay.html Sure, some of these couples are from other states, but even dropping over 500 of those still leaves a nice 10% -- in the last 4 months, more than Massachusetts in 4 years. Is TEN PERCENT significant enough for you? Looking at this from any direction, your arguments are just routinely hateful, not substantive, Ben Loser. (Thursday Oct 9 | post #11208)
Area churches are divided on same-sex marriage ban
Oh, definitely. Don't misunderstand me though, I am not in any way endorsing Fred. What I am saying is that the hate spewing from the yes on 8 mob is just as vile as Fred's, but not as obvious to "Six-pack Joe" to know -- and vote -- better. The guile of these love and charity charlatans is orders of magnitude worse, IMHO. They had sure better hope there is no vengeful god or hell.... (Thursday Oct 9 | post #185)
Area churches are divided on same-sex marriage ban
I still appreciate Fred more than most. He is forthright and honest, unlike most Christians I know. He does not hide his hate or murderous intentions, so I know not to ever turn my back on him. But I find the "good" Christian knife in back all the time, just about the time I find some reason to trust one. Some day, I'll learn better.... (Wednesday Oct 8 | post #176)
Area churches are divided on same-sex marriage ban
Yeah, yeah, go for it! Let's get this Leviticus morality train moving!!!! (Was Jesus alive at the time of Leviticus, or are you referring to that holy spooky thang of be all end all yada yada yada?) But it seems to me as I get my facts all STRAIGHT that you are a total WUSS. Grow some balls, dude, or Sarah Palin will loan you hers. Don't just vote yes on proposition H8, vote to put Leviticus into our secular Constitution and put all these damned transgressors to DEATH!!!! Yeah, that's it, the Jesus of your Leviticus is DEATH! Forget all that love your neighbor as yourself crap. 20:9 "Anyone who curses his father or mother shall be put to DEATH; since he has cursed his father or mother, he has forfeited his life. 20:10 "If a man commits adultery with his neighbor's wife, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall be put to DEATH. 20:11 "If a man disgraces his father by lying with his father's wife, both the man and his stepmother shall be put to DEATH; they have forfeited their lives. 20:12 "If a man lies with his daughter-in-law, both of them shall be put to DEATH; since they have committed an abhorrent deed, they have forfeited their lives. 20:13 "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them shall be put to DEATH for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives. 20:14 "If a man marries a woman and her mother also, the man and the two women as well shall be BURNED to DEATH for their shameful conduct, so that such shamefulness may not be found among you. 20:15 "If a man has carnal relations with an animal, the man shall be put to DEATH, and the animal shall be slain. (I've never understood why the animal had to suffer yet one more injustice....) 20:16 "If a woman goes up to any animal to mate with it, the woman and the animal shall be slain; let them both be put to DEATH; their lives are forfeit. 20:17 "If a man consummates marriage with his sister or his half-sister, they shall be publicly cut off from their people for this shameful deed; the man shall pay the penalty of having had intercourse with his own sister. (Why not KILL this guy, too?) 20:18 "If a man lies in sexual intercourse with a woman during her menstrual period, both of them shall be cut off from their people, because they have laid bare the flowing fountain of her blood. (Ah, KILL them too, and throw 'em on the pile...) 20:19 "You shall not have intercourse with your mother's sister or your father's sister; whoever does so shall pay the penalty of incest. (Let me guess? DEATH?) 20:20 "If a man disgraces his uncle by having intercourse with his uncle's wife, the man and his aunt shall pay the penalty by dying childless. (Does this warrant abortion then?) 20:21 "If a man marries his brother's wife and thus disgraces his brother, they shall be childless because of this incest. (Yay, more abortions!) 20:22 "Be careful to observe all my statutes and all my decrees; otherwise the land where I am bringing you to dwell (Florida?) will vomit you out. 20:23 "Do not conform, therefore, to the customs of the nations whom I am driving out of your way (the native American Indians? Does that mean no smoking tobacco?), because all these things that they have done have filled me with disgust for them. --- insert few boring verses that do not mention killing anyone here --- 20:27 "A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortune-teller shall be put to DEATH by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their DEATH." (Am I the only one who sees an unhealthy preoccupation with killing people here?) (Wednesday Oct 8 | post #143)
However, the damage BushCo has done will likely require decades, if ever, to recover.... (Tuesday Oct 7 | post #112)
Area churches are divided on same-sex marriage ban
OMG! Lions! Tigers! Bears! Oh my! "The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie-deliberate, contrived and dishonest-but the myth-persistent, persuasive and unrealistic." John F. Kennedy But what if those heterosexual horndog men wanted multiple wives (like in Islam and Hinduism and Judaism and Buddhism and Mormonism and countless other religions), or 300-somethin' concubines (like the good ol' Jews of the good Ol' Testament), or just wanted to drag their wench behind them by their hair with a club in the other hand like the good ol' days? Can someone just say it? Will all you Theocrats please come out of your closet and just admit that you DO think America should become an official religious state like Israel and Iran? Quit pretending like you understand and/or respect the separation of church and state (no matter where that idea started), and quit hiding like cowards! Be honest, you know, like true Christians.... (Monday Oct 6 | post #118)
Controversial Ugandan official: civilization is "being threaten...
Yessir, all those damn gays wearing miniskirts... (the butch Scots can still wear their kilts commando-style, right?) I know many homos who have children; I guess they didn't read the manual. And wouldn't a lot more chicas wearing miniskirts convert all us gay boys to be god-fearin' rednecks? So... civilisation is being threatened, and by this he is suggesting that Uganda is so civilised? Oh. Got it. But since they're not going to be using it, might I suggest that we make Uganda into a gay theme park in 20 years? Rename it Ugogirl. (Saturday Oct 4 | post #1)
What do you think of gay marriage?
Interesting... I've actually seen the "in favor" vote going DOWN. Hmmmmm. Is this site run by Diebold? (Saturday Oct 4 | post #11083)
California couple sues state over new terms on marriage licences
I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen Henry Roberts (Saturday Oct 4 | post #63)
California couple sues state over new terms on marriage licences
"For now, they are busy with their family (she has two children from a previous marriage and he has three) and starting their new life." http://www.sacbee. com/101/story/1239 279.html Ahh, I understand better now. They have experience getting in and out of traditional marriage between one man and one woman, unless, of course, that's inconvenient. Not only are these two contributing to marriage statistics, they are contributing to divorce statistics -- the tradition of 50% of American heterosexual couples. Want to appear like you're strengthening holier-than-thou marriage? Then blame your own failures on committed same-sex couples. (Saturday Oct 4 | post #54)
Myself as a DA/DT casualty, Clinton *did* grandstand on that forced compromise with the Elephanthole Congress, much like Obama/Biden are now so proud to declare and agree with McCain/Palin that they are against gays having fully equal rights.... As much as I loathe Nader, I do understand why many disgusted Americans would reach for ANYone else. Guess that will make me just another Independenthole, eh Dana? (Saturday Oct 4 | post #81)
California couple sues state over new terms on marriage licences
"Party A" and "Party B" is demeaning? Being heterosexual, they have no concept of what it means to have a demeaning government. Pacific Justice Institute. Another lovely hairy wart on the face of humanity, with endorsements by Bill O'Reilly and witch "doctor" Laura Mudslinger, you know this young couple is being used like a toilet seat cover in the Minneapolis airport mens' bathroom.... (Friday Oct 3 | post #5)
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