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I have to wonder what version of that affair you've bought into? I mean, I remember the reportage as it was happening - it was disgusting and I despise him to this day for dragging us through that. But "molested "? How does a willing partner to an adulterous act get "molestedall the scandals she's been linked to in one way or another..." That cuts to the heart of it right there. There has been an ongoing campaign against the Clintons for decades. It doesn't matter whether anything is ever proven or settled; in fact it's better that nothing ever be settled. It's a growth industry with no downside for it's players - any book written is an instant best-seller, any teaser for a "smoking gun report" guarantees an uptick of viewers. Nobody cares there's never - never - a smoking gun. It's hate-watch TV. What matters over the long-term is that the impression left on the American public is "all the scandals she's been linked to in one way or another." BINGO! Mission Accomplished. The happy fact for all these vultures is that she very likely will overcome that massive effort and be the next President. Then the "investigatio ns" and book-signings can continue unabated for at least 4 more years, maybe 8. Ka_ching! Hear those cash registers ring! I sure hope we get to the bottom of the Xmas-card scandal this time around.  (Oct 10, 2016 | post #192667)

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Uh, excuse me, but only one of us made a long-distance diagnosis of a pathology over the television, and followed up with their Master's Degree as a, uh......trump card. (hey it was right there ;) I get it, it's a natural human tendency to demean and demonize what one doesn't like. If qualification and fitness can't get you there, go with.......whateve r. Whatever even works, sometimes.  (Oct 10, 2016 | post #192663)

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Guess why this one didn't get more traction? Blackberrys were only around for a couple of years before they were replaced by newer tech devices, the early Apples and Androids. Where I work, CPUs are replaced on a rotating basis, and policy is that one must drill or hammer the hard drive before turning it in to ES (Electronic Surplus). Standard protocol in the private and public world, when turning in tech devices of all kinds with storage, is to destroy the hd and recycle the rest. So they were following protocol. "Scandal " died, because both the House and Fox have the same policy. What's really funny about it all? Nobody cares about the damned emails except the bubble dwellers, and that ain't gonna win no election.  (Oct 10, 2016 | post #192662)

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So, the "laughing about getting a rapist off" is cleared up. Now the best evidence for a clinical distant-diagnosis of sociopathy is telling stretchers on the campaign trail? And I think we both know we'd be hard-pressed to describe her as "the popular guy". Part of her "popularity " problem is that she is a policy wonk and not great at the schmoozing required of the typical candidate. Let's cut to the heart - Clinton is so despised that even a professional psychologist with a Master's feels no compunction about loosely tossing around a distant diagnosis of a pathology. It is what it is - politics is a tough game in a democracy, and the only rules are there are no rules.  (Oct 10, 2016 | post #192655)

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Besides opportunistic bandwagon jumpers, we have no evidence of Bill having anything more than a series of consensual affairs. In Hillary, what I see is a woman fiercely defending her husband and family, like too many women throughout society must endure. I would think that most spouses could at least understand the motivation. She should be recognized for her long-suffering loyalty to a serial philanderer. "Rapist" is just gratuitous exaggeration for it's shock value, and a sure indicator that rational discussion is probably not an option.  (Oct 9, 2016 | post #192629)

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The taped interview is still available. It won't make a difference to those pre-disposed to imagine the worst, but what you will hear is a wide-ranging interview from the mid-80's about her career to that point. Speaking of her few early litigation experiences, she relates one of her more difficult cases, when a prosecutor called and asked her to take this case - a "terrible case," in her words. The infamous "laugh" can be heard at about 1:40 here: https://www.youtub e.com/watch?v=e2f1 3f2awK4 She says, "I had him take a polygraph, which he passed – which forever destroyed my faith in polygraphs," finishing with an ironic chuckle. This is the alleged "laugh". It was a brief uncomfortable chuckle about losing faith in the polygraph, NOT about defending a rapist. I'm hoping lisw can give some other evidence of her "sociopathy ", because this ain't it. Like her politics or not, if there's anything at all consistent about her over the years, it is fighting for women and children's issues.  (Oct 9, 2016 | post #192628)

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Sociopath? Is that a clinical diagnosis? I've seen professionals be pretty severe about laymen tossing these words around. Here's what I wonder - Can you say, "The President of the United States is immature, crude, and very thin-skinned? " I mean, that is what it's all about, ain't it?  (Oct 9, 2016 | post #192621)

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Of course we did..... ...when I was 17.... ...and single.... ...and it was pure fantasy. You know what they say - young and dumb and full of....well, you get the idea. Now I hear of a "star" bragging they actually get away with it.  (Oct 9, 2016 | post #192620)

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Hoping for nothing more than a blustery rainy couple days for Clearwater and all in the storm. Take care buddy. https://www.youtub e.com/watch?v=fWem uuQcuKA  (Oct 6, 2016 | post #192561)

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Stop it, I already knew you cared. Some might say that a dangleberry on God's ass still beats the alternative..... >wink @ U<  (Aug 31, 2016 | post #192268)

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I've said this many times but can't say it enough: At no time do I confuse the extremely narrow view of a person in a faceless discussion board focused on politics (the third rail of polite conversation) - at no time do I confuse that with, or assume it affords me, a larger picture of that person. Those who post here are, in my mind, living breathing caring people with an entire universe of life outside of this tiny room - a room with no windows, as it were. So, yes, I will argue my position passionately, because that's what this is about, and I'll use all the tools in my cabinet - persuasion, sarcasm, irony, references, etc, etc - because I feel just as strongly as anyone else, and because it can be fun. Besides that it is often informative of alternate views, tho' I may not always say so because it's just poor debate strategy. In debate, one is often challenged to take a side they mayn't agree with, in part or in whole (so it is with Clinton, for instance), often called playing Devil's Advocate (I know, I thought ya'll would like that;). But I promise you that my position will be as boringly fact-based as research allows. For myself, I can't abide innuendo, half-truth, or untruths. I can't help it; it's a characteristic beat in about the head and shoulders by me dear sainted Ma >grin here<. But they are >narrow issues<, most of which don't affect our lives in a direct way, and it's no more than that. The political arguments tell me nothing about them as a human being muddling through this life the same as me, and I don't think anyone has seen, or will see, me make larger conjectures about their life or life-view beyond politics. Politics ain't life. Your comment about the beer is apropos - I've mentioned before that I have a group of friends, long-time friends, and when we're together the entire political compass is represented. We have long enjoyed starting a subject and then arguing passionately, loudly, vociferously, and then - "grab me another out of the cooler there, please. How'd Chelsea do in the soccer game?" Good times, good people.... So, yeah, I can step into and out of "character " easily, because of that. Politics in it's place, real people talk elsewise, and the two are completely separate. Well, most of the time anyways.........  (Aug 31, 2016 | post #192267)

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No, just one of God's children, but thank you....:)  (Aug 31, 2016 | post #192262)

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mumbling) manners and civility? well there's a fresh tactic. What angle is he after now? ;) Thank you, that's a rare trait on the boards, and it will be remembered. Next round's on me....  (Aug 30, 2016 | post #192259)

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https://www.youtub e.com/watch?v=b-VA xGJdJeQ  (Aug 30, 2016 | post #192257)

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Thanks bob, but Riccardo, and the rest of the room, are interested in your response to his post. Of course, no response can be loud and clear as well, so there's that...  (Aug 29, 2016 | post #192252)

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