May 26, 2008
Let's see....Fall 2012 Talladega, passing for the win when Tony Stewart cuts across his hood and totals 1/2 the field. Spring Daytona Race, running with underfunded team, has so-so day that gets ruined when he has an engine problem late in the race. Spring Talladega, top 5 Summer Daytona, top 5 So, 2 top 5's, a near win until Stewart wrecks him, and a sputtering engine laying a turd. So 3 out of last 4 in contention at the end and NO CAUSING THE BIG ONE. Lie On Proven Liar!!! (Jul 22, 2013 | post #6)
This kinda hit me a bit seeing this today because I came here seeing if anyone had posted about Mike's 4th place finish yesterday and was thinking later I would post a GoPos Race Report and instead, I found this and it made me remember a few things. For one, it made me remember that I didn't exactly get along with Dill too well. Well, let me explain. There was a time I used to get a bit more hostile on here and I didn't care too much about all the joking about Mike on here a lot and she would often join in with Wall, especially for the so many annual, I don't know how many their were, but I remember every year there was the Wall famous "Tipsy Sock Walk" and Dill used to join in and joke and in my defense, I would joke Dill back and there was a time or two I got a bit mean. In reality, I think Dill actually like Michael but she obviously was a bigger fan of Reutiman and I think another driver. Can't remember who. Anyway, I think we both knew that we had gotten on each others nerves and I kind of made it a point to chill on Dillenger and I believe I did. This was a few years back mind you and I think we conversed well in the following times but it was pretty clear we kind of tip-toed lightly around each other. Regardless, when you come here and read stuff like this, it makes you feel bad because you would NEVER wish something like this on her. And in reality, I always sensed she was a bit on the lonely side and came her to converse amongst friends. Whether pro or con, we came her to talk, laugh, joke and rag on Michael Waltrip and it brought us all together and there are names you recognize and remember and I always knew Dill was a nice person but as someone who is an admitted fan of Michael Waltrip, I felt the need to defend him the best way I knew how. I think anybody that has seen me around her for a few years has realized I have lightened up some and can even kid about Michael myself and when he does bad, I'll be the first to admit it. But that is not what this subject is about. The subject is about Dill passing away and for that I feel bad because I didn't actually get along or treat her better than I could have. I would never wish anything like this to happen to her nor would I wish any of the hardships she went through before her death. I'm just glad we at least were cordial to each other in the past couple of years and I must admit to being saddened to read about her death. It just goes to show sometimes that it's easier and better to be nice to people and know you were decent to someone than to have memories of not being so nice in the past and hearing something like this. It saddens me. Wall, I know she loved you to death and she thought of you as a special friend. So thanks for the update and feeling like family to her. RIP Dillinger. The Topix Michael Waltrip board and other boards and other friends and family lost someone and it is certainly felt here too. (May 6, 2013 | post #6)
Don't you find it funny what happened at the last race? All this stuff going on? Lagano getting into it with Hamlin and now Hamlin is wearing a back brace and acting like Lagano punting him into the wall and looking like he's either going to cry or go into a rage every time he talks about it on tv. And yes, Lagano basically acting like, I got to stick up for myself as a man but I wasn't trying to wreck him. Funny stuff if not for the injury. But what really gets me is watching Stewart flip all out. Going up and trying to take on Lagano and then going on air and saying he's a blocker and I'm gonna wreck him next time he does it. Now I've seen the replays a few times and while it does look like he blocks him, I wouldn't say it was that bad. At least he kind of slowly came down on him and gave him time to scoot over. It wasn't like he just took a left turn. Plus, I don't get that Lagano is just supposed to let him by. I'm not a Lagano defender at all. I don't much care for the kid myself. But I didn't see what he done as all that tragic. But what does get me is Stewart going off on TV. Saying he's a Spoiled Rich Kid and calling out his manhood for blocking. Well Hello Mr. Stewart. Take Us back to October 2012 at Talladega and on the Final Lap we had Mike with that fastest run out of anybody coming out of turn 4 ready to take the lead and the checkers. You can't tell me he wasn't going to win that thing. It was in the bag. That is, until Tony Stewart seen he was going to get passed and made a SUDDEN Left turn. Not only did he take out Mike and ruin his chance at winning his first Nascar Sprint Cup race in 9 years, but in all, he took out 25 cars!!! If I ever seen a reason for someone to get his head knocked off at the end of a race, it was THAT race. Did anyone go up to Stewart and knock his head off? No. Did anyone blast him on the air? No. He was basically forgiven and Tony got on tv and did a "Aw Shucks, I messed up and took everyone out.......sorry. " Well, I call what he did to Lagano as being a hypocrite. Tony Stewart is a great driver no doubt. But sometimes he's just a bit too big for his britches. (Apr 5, 2013 | post #1)
I'm with wall in wondering if the new G6 car will look better on the typical oval tracks. I'm hopeful they will look good there, but so far it seems to be at the expense of tracks like Daytona and Talladega. That's why I'm hoping for some changes by Talladega. I did notice that the stands were emptier than I've ever seen them and that was saying something because they've looked empty in the past, but I've never seen it look THIS empty. I think most people can't afford to go to races anymore especially when the racing itself is boring. I remember when I watched in the mid 90s, racing was great every week. And we had a lot more bumping and banging and real hatred amongst drivers. Now we have diluted clean cut boys racing not to hurt anyone's feelings. The fan's aren't going to show up for that. You've got to get back to people rubbing and banging and fighting all the time. That will put people back in their seats. But it ain't going to happen with races like Daytona and all you can talk about is how well Danica is doing. We need some tempers flaring and people taking each other out. We need it to be like Dale was when he used to Rattle People's Cages. I think if Dale was still alive, he'd be telling the world how much he hates the state of Nascar these days and how too many candyasses involved now. (Mar 2, 2013 | post #2)
That's probably a tie 55. Well no, I think it was worse that the race was boring. Because no one up front could get out of line. I believe if that had been one of those RP races where people pass constantly up front, I doubt Danica would have finished 8th. I'd feel more comfortable believing she would have ended up around 25th or so in that kind of a plate race. She really didn't mix it up at all. Then again, she didn't need to. The race called for staying in line and she did. And she had a stout car evident by the fact it won the pole. So no need to step out because her car drove like a wet dream. Let's see if they fix this aero package by Talladega and see how Danica does in that. I hated 2 car drafting partners terribly, but it's impossible to believe, this was far worse. Did anyone see the trucks or Nationwide series? That was 100 times better. (Feb 28, 2013 | post #12)
Just got done reading the transcript over at MikeyNoPower. It seems like the timing of an engine problem was about right when I said it was. After pitting by themselves while being with the lead group. Tony Eury Jr came on the radio and asked if they were blowing up? Mike said it sounded funny when they left the pits and lost power. Questioned whether they were down a cylinder and one time mentioned missing a gear "But I didn't miss a shift" Mike stated. Mike stayed calm and thankful to others for drafting with him. Him and other wounded ducks. They made the most of a bad situation. Mike expressed sadness over not being to race a few times. "Man, I really wanted to race". He also mentioned once or twice that he didn't like the follow the leader action. "Man, I hope we mix it up some. This is the Daytona 500 man!". I'll look forward to him back in a MWR car at Talladega. Too bad he can't bring Tony Eury Jr with him. (Feb 25, 2013 | post #5)
Yeah, I'm still looking for a Confirmation of what was wrong with the car because I know something was. When he was restarting around 24th or 25th, when there was around 50 laps to go, I knew Mike still had a chance to do something good. Instead he hung like 5 car lengths away from the pack like he knew he was going to be a hindrance to others. I always keep my eye on Mike and the cars in the back were just passing him like he was standing still. I thought he was going to make a lap and head to the garage. But I think once he was up to speed, he was okay. It was just the restarts that looked bad. Unfortunately, he was losing 10-25 seconds getting up to speed and finding a draft partner to just ride around with. That is disappointing. I always feel like when Mike goes to Daytona/Talladega, he has a great chance to win IF he doesn't crash, blow a tire, run out of gas or have an engine problem. I'll blame this one on some kind of engine problem. And in that sense, I feel robbed. I wasn't happy when he stayed out under yellow. It was a gutsy move that could have payed off. If the caution would have come out while he was up front, he could have been sitting pretty and might have been a real contender. But it just felt like the time of the race where we were going to have a long Green flag run. And we did. So I didn't like it when he stayed out. I felt it was going to bite him and it did. On the other hand, maybe he knew his car wasn't up to snuff. That underfunded team he did a favor for probably didn't have much to compete with. So maybe, they knew it wasn't going to hold up and in situations like that, Mike has a tendency to stay out and lead a lap or two just to say he led a few laps. I don't think the race was either an embarrassment nor a confirmation of Mike. I do think he took what he had and made the most of it. I do think he did a good job. But it's no fun for me to see Mike running with a wounded duck. I again refer back to Talladega because I didn't do a report all last year and I should have. But I think Mike was going to win that race. He had such a run coming out of turn 4. He was the fastest car and was going low to overtake Stewart. He would have came out of that the leader and the victor. I am convinced. But Stewart took a left and crashed the whole field. That one pissed me off. Because that is the Mike I know. The one that when nothing bad happens and he has a decent car, he's going to be there at the end on a restrictor plate track. Yeah, I know, he ain't jack anywhere else. But I think he's one of the best at RP tracks. And I always like our chances if he has a good car. I think he proved it on that race. That was win #5 coming to the checkers and Stewart took us out. I'm still mad about it. Anyway, I don't know why but I thought I would take a look over here and see what I saw. Ole Wall is still here but it looks pretty slow around here man. People don't seem to be here anymore. I guess since he's been gone from being full time, people are forgetting about him and their hatred for Mike. I am still a Michael Waltrip fan and have been since 1994. I'm proud of him. Yeah, he wasn't the talent that other drivers are but he had his moments. And the MWR team that was the laughing stock of Nascar is now becoming a legit contender. I'm proud of Mike and his team for hanging in there. It's what I liked about him as a racer and now a team owner. I'd love to see Mike get 1 more win at a RP track. I look forward to Talladega, but they need to bring a better package to deal with the air wall at the front. If they can do that and give Mike a piece to run with, I think he can win 1 more. And if he does, I ain't afraid to admit it wall. I'm going to shed a few tears. Because when you stay with an underdog for so long and they finally come through...Nothing feels better. 10-4??? (Feb 25, 2013 | post #4)
I don't know what happened to be honest. It's been awhile. I have my own idea what "might" have happened but I'm just guessing at this point. So, I'll tell you the race as I seen it... Mike started the 500 and proceeded to hang around the back and just make laps to start the race. I presume he was avoiding what he thought was going to be a crash and wanted to see how his car was handling. After the first caution, he started mixing it up a bit and was running in the 20's - low 30's most of the time. Looked comfortable for the most part. And as we neared half way, I think Mike made the move that determined his fate in the race. He didn't pit under caution when he could/should have and instead took track position and was restarting 1st and led I think 4 laps under caution. This all would have been fine should they rode around awhile and then caught a caution and pitted with the leaders. Instead, as we often see when you commit like this, there were no cautions and as he ran 6th for what seemed like forever, he finally had to break away from the lead draft and pit by himself. The car looked great up front like he was just biding time and waiting for a caution. It just wasn't to be. He ran out of gas before those around him and had to pit. From there, I don't know what happened. The car wasn't never the same. I wondered for awhile if he was a lap or laps down. Instead, he was either last on the lead lap or next to last. I noticed he wasn't losing much time not being involved in the lead draft and I thought everything was going to be okay. I realized something was REALLY wrong during the next restart when coming to the green, Mike wasn't tucked up against the lead pack and when the Green flew, he was looking very slow and cars passed him left and right. Once up to speed, I assume he drafted with another lone car or two and again, I didn't notice his interval times slipping that much not being in the draft. I wondered/hoped if it was just a bad restart and hoped for another yellow. When that finally came again, I noticed a repeat performance of the previous yellow and green restart of not tucking behind the lead pack when it was time to restart and started slow and then when everyone was up to speed, he sort of didn't lose much time but was already down a good 20 - 25 seconds once he was up to speed. So I am "Assuming " something was wrong with the car, and I'm wondering if he lost a gear like 2nd or 3rd and it took his car a long time getting up to speed compensating for that loss. Because once it was up to speed, it seemed to run okay. Just already lost the draft by 10-20 seconds. So, I am "assuming " the car was injured and it affected speed during restarts. I haven't read a confirmation anywhere, but I wonder if it was a lost gear? Would love to know. I'm pretty sure the car was wounded. All in all, a respectable 22nd place showing. No embarrassments or gaffs, but disappointing not challenging at all once he pitted out of sequence with the leaders and then looking broke from then on. I guess you can find humor in that. I found it irritating that his car just wasn't up to speed anymore. The bigger embarrassment to me was the race. What a snoozer? No one could pass all week. 200 laps of follow the leader is no fun and doesn't showcase anyone's drafting talents. The Nationwide and Truck race was much more entertaining. Heck, this race made Danica look legit. All she had to do was stay in line the whole race. The finish seemed like a bunch of wusses. No one mixed it up heading to the checkers. It was just Jimmy saying follow me boys. Embarrassing. Although I missed the race report, I thought last fall's Talladega race was robbed for us by Tony Stewart. But that's a missed report. As it is, disappointing race for Mike at Daytona. No one looked impressive to me and Mikey looked less than good with a car I know had something wrong with it. There you go. My 1st race report in over a season. Hope you enjoyed it Wall. (Feb 24, 2013 | post #2)
That's why he won 3 more after he died. (Nov 4, 2011 | post #9)
Hey, I almost forgot about you guys because I hardly watch Nascrap anymore, but when Dega comes around I have to see if Mike will run it and he did. So I had to watch and I didn't want Ol' Wall to not hear how I seen it, so here it is. 1st of all, they said they put a new rules package to break up the two car team-ups we've seen the last 3-4 years now. I don't know what you guys seen, but I seen the same deal as before. 2 cars ruled and if you didn't have a partner, you were screwed. As I have said in the past, I hate this style of drafting. I miss the old style of drafting where you could draft off of any car in sight and the more cars that were lined up, the faster you would go. I miss the big bevy of cars together and all the lane changing cars would do trying to figure where they can get a move forward. The old style is a classic chess match. The new style is have a friend and ride around together. I personally think it is boring. Regardless, the race took place anyway. Early on it became apparent that Mike and Bobby Labonte were hooking up. I thought for the most part they worked well together. But it was obvious early on that they were hanging in the back and avoiding trouble. I think they took a stab at getting up front around the half way point where they drafted to a 4th place position but not long after that had shuffled back to 30th. From then on they seemed to hang in the 12th - 24th or so area. Mainly around 20th most of the time occasionally moving forward and occasionally moving back. It seemed to me when they were hooked, it worked well and they could gain ground. I believe they had started making a push forward when it was unfortunate that Blab spun out. Do I think Mike caused it????? No I don't. As we seen a few other times during the day, the front car sometimes spun out. It happened 2 or 3 times before then and it happened again with them. I don't think Mike pushed him around. I think Blab just lost it. It was a shame because I think they understood how to run together and was making a go at it when this happened. Immediately I wonder just who would be Mike's new partner? I figured he wouldn't get a partner and would fade to the back. He was at the back but he did manage to find a partner with Landon Cassill. They had started out around the 30th position and had worked there way up to around 12th when the final caution came out and they pitted which split them up. I was hoping for 3 laps to finish the race instead of 2 but the cleaning crew wouldn't get off the track in a timely matter and this left us with a green-white-checke r. I honestly feel like every lap at this point would have counted towards a greater finish. When the green flag fell with 2 laps to go Mike was 20th and without a partner. One thing about this package, you ain't going to stay running up front without a partner, but as long as the cars are all bunched together, it is possible to draft off the pack for a couple of laps until the field spreads out. Once the field spreads out, you better have a partner or you are a dead duck. Luckily, the field was bunched up and the last 2 laps seen Mike driving old-school style. Getting with any car he could get with to grab a draft and switching positions when it benefited him the most. This was sweet stuff and the kind of Talladega drafting I miss. I think you could draft like this up to about 4-5 laps and then after that the field would thin out too much and you would have to have a partner. Too bad we didn't have another lap or 2. I think he could have gotten a top 5 if we did. As it was I was ecstatic to get a top 10. I didn't think he embarrassed us all day. And the Blab deal wasn't his fault. It was just a good run. Not great, but solid. Being he only raced 3 times this year, I'll take it. Haters are going to hate but it was a good run. That's the way I see it. Hopefully we'll get another 3-4 races next year but at this point I don't know. Happy hating folks! -goPOS (Oct 29, 2011 | post #1)
Those are the same people who would shoot a huge white load if Jr actually won and Dale Jarrett was calling babbling like a hillbilly all over the race. So I wouldn't put anything into their opinion. It's not like they got past 10th grade or anything. They're already bored with the races and are just looking for fashionable hip excuses to say why. KBusch is winning all the races and they hate him, especially in Toyota's. And Waltrip's just have tons of haters already because their blinded by Earnhardt's nutsack. It's popular to hate Waltrips. But really, it's just an excuse to deflect the fact that they're really just bored with racing in general because their one tooth can't sink into the fact that Junior has only won one race in like the last 5 years. It's Nascar Redneck Racism at it's finest. You know what I mean you old Ford loving, USA only, Roush fan??? 10-4??? (Apr 23, 2011 | post #15)
He's only drove in like 6 races in the last 2 years. If the sport is sinking, it ain't his fault. You keep wanting to pin every declining stat on MW. Well, he ain't been driving! That was only his 2nd race this year. Gee, lets pin all the attendance and tv rating numbers on him even when he aint been in it! I understand the animosity some people feel towards Mike and I've never denied it. I'll be the first to tell you when he sucked. If you wanna spin MW as being bad for the sport and hiding under poor results, can we say Jr has shook up Nascar with all his great achievements driving for the most money resourced and winning franchise in racing? Shouldn't he get the "Underachieve r" tag like Mike got at DEI???? Hell, Mike got 4 wins at DEI, JR only has 1 at Hendrick Motorsports!?? Come on! Don't call me blind when you're just as blind in the opposite direction. If Mike made it this far by being a snake oil salesman, it obviously worked enough to keep him in it and keep going. Hell, if he hadn't been like that, he'd be another DCope out there. And don't give me the "he's just as accomplished" stuff either. Cope can't make it week to week in this sport. Mike has a real race team and real sponsors in this crippled economy. You're just being a hater dude. I done said Mike ain't drove very great in his career. At times it's been laughable. But I've been cheering him on since 1994 and even though he's had plenty of calamity over the years, he's also drove well when in the right situation. His days of being competitive are long gone and I get that. But dang dude. Jr. has been at Hendrick almost as long as Mike was at DEI now and has less to show for it. What kind of snake oil does he have? Oh yeah, he's little E. Nascar's ratings have nothing to do with Mike. It simply just isn't as entertaining as it used to be and that's across the board. It's become a boring product and it's just as boring when Mike isn't there. (Apr 21, 2011 | post #13)
I almost agree with this. Almost.... I would love to see rule changes to make the cars draft like they used to and back to the past style of drafting off of anybody. Then I would love to see Mike go at it again and to hell with any loyalty with his MWR cars. They've slapped him just about as much as the other 38 or so drivers out there. I really think Mike drove fairly well on Sunday and was handcuffed by the package and the fact no one would call him a dancing partner. If your own drivers won't even help out....F'em! I wouldn't care at this point if he sold his stake in the team and disappeared. Mike may never have been a talent and I understand all the hate and animosity towards him because he used to drive for DEI when results said to most people he didn't deserve it. But I also think he's been a great ambassador to the sport, has helped lots of people when he could, turned the other cheek when he was wronged and tried to make the most out of whatever situation he was in. I don't think he deserved to get disrespected THAT bad on Sunday as he did. I think Mike has been humbled enough over the past 6 years since he left DEI. He's had enough to make 10 drivers quit and has still managed to hang his name on a race team and show himself admirably when given the right opportunities. I still believe he could win a RP race, but not under this package. I think if drivers wanted to send Mike a message and give a payback or two, they did it on Sunday. If I was Mike, I'd be upset. If he drove another RP race and got treated that way again, or the package rules don't change, I couldn't blame him for hanging it up for good. (Apr 21, 2011 | post #11)
wall, you should know if I haven't been embarrassed after calling this guy my favorite driver since 1994, I'm not going to be embarrassed now. I've had plenty more to be embarrassed about than that effort. Take 2007 for instance. THAT'S embarrassing. It is true I haven't had much at all to cheer about since he left DEI. In fact very little. But I'm not going to be upset with Mike's effort yesterday from what I seen. First of all, let me reiterate that I'm not a fan of this 2 car drafting system that has been cooked up this season and has been brewing for 2 or 3 years now. It used to be the cars would remain in a big pack and draft amongst themselves and then 2 cars would hook up for maybe 2 laps and gain an advantage for those 2 laps. But they couldn't stay hooked up or they would blow their engines or something bad like that. It was only something you could pull out of your bag of tricks for brief periods and only if you had a good dance partner ready to play the same trick. Now it's the ONLY trick! Instead of drafting from car to car the way it used to be done, now you have to have a partner from the green until the checkered, if you ain't got one....you're screwed! Yesterday was a perfect example of that. How ironic was it to see Mike pushing Clint Bowyer to the front and either keeping him there or pushing him back to the front again and again??? One thing I noticed, Bowyer never switched once! He never let Mike take the lead of the 2 cars. Mike stayed behind Bowyer the entire run until the 1st caution and they were up front nearly the entire time! And Mike was pushing him. I'll tell you what. I know Bowyer spent a lot of time up front yesterday, but he never looked as powerful as when Mike pushed him. Yes he led, but with Mike, they drove up to the front at will. It was totally ironic it was Bowyer. I was simply amazed. This dropped my jaw more than anything I seen yesterday. What happened after the caution didn't surprise me. I wasn't surprised when Kyle Busch basically dumped Mike. Pissed a bit, yeah. Surprised? No. Especially since Kyle got turned with Mike behind him at Daytona. No, what surprised me is no one wanted to hook up with Mike the rest of the way. And he fell straight to the back. He didn't have a partner. He was screwed! The old drafting would have had him drafting off of any car in sight, but you can't do that anymore. Its 2 cars together and 3 is a crowd. I personally think this fact sucks. I think Mike is capable of driving extremely well under either circumstance, but the 2 car circumstance means you need a teammate. The old drafting style, it didn't matter who it was....just draft! I kind of watched with half interest after that. I was in the middle of a home project and kept looking back to catch what was going on. I think Mike did a wave around to get back on the lead lap but never caught a caution (figures) and then I seen he went to the pits. I thought it was a normal pit. Next thing I know...he's 3 laps down and I had no idea why. I know you guys consider it charity, but the rules fall for all 43 drivers and not just one. The fact he got back within a lap down with about 20 to go still gave Mike a chance for a good finish. All we needed was 1 more caution quickly and he would have been back on the lead lap. I do think he had a car capable of winning the race. I do think he was one of the best pushing cars out there. But you can't play with this configuration without a partner. I think Mike got slapped yesterday. Deserved or not and maybe it is deserved and in some cases it is. I think he deserved a bit better yesterday considering how strong his car truly was. Call this spin or delusional or whatever. He deserved better than what he got. Oh yeah, he also dodged a wreck awesomely as well. Nothing embarrassing happened yesterday except a big old middle finger from about 40 other drivers. I'm sure you like that quote wall. Glad I could help. Mike drove better than what he got. Just saying (Apr 18, 2011 | post #3)
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