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Samoa

Original Polynesian language

Questions of mine, so far, that have gone unanswered: 1. Has "the Mother Tongue" definitely not survived? I thought evidence supporting Tongan, Samoan, or the "Niua language" would have proposed more strongly that one of those languages were the original. Concerning PPn, then: 2. Is there any published material in which PPn is the main focus? Who are the experts on PPn? Are they currently unknown, or are they the people referenced on the Wikipedia page? 3. Do the "Niua people" claim sole Tongan ancestry? I thought they were simply their own people. If not, do no Niua people claim Samoan ancestry at all? 4. Where is the evidence supporting that the 'K' sound was in the original tongue? I see K as an evolution of the glottal stop, for it seems more natural to me for the Tongan to replace the glottal stop with K over time and only in certain cases (numbered as they may be), as opposed to the Samoan eradicating the K sound entirely. No agenda. Please educate me if my logic strays. I maintain this same frame of thought concerning the sounds 'S' and 'F' softening to become 'H,' and, if I am not mistaken, in particular cases the 'T' softening into 'L,' the actual L further softening into 'R,' where "Eastern Polynesia' is concerned. 5. Does anyone know the meanings of the island names? NOT the island chains (ie Samoa = Sacred Centre and soforth).  (Jul 18, 2014 | post #143)

Samoa

Original Polynesian language

Oh no. I actually have read a page or two but there is a lot to go through, I just don't wanna respond half-informed. I thank you. I love what I have read so far. Lots of work poured through into these pages.  (Jul 16, 2014 | post #141)

Samoa

Original Polynesian language

As you can see, those linguists did not work together. Nor did any one of those linguists pursue to claim empirical findings or even a nod at a theory concerning PPn. The closest thing to a "find" was the work done concerning Niue, and even that doesn't come close to addressing PPn. Honestly bro my credentials are my brain. Insert lol here. If you can't come with something that at least pushes back against the logic I have presented I don't need to rest on someone else's credentials the way you do.  (Jul 14, 2014 | post #131)

Samoa

Original Polynesian language

As for R and H, when you examine other languages around the world you will see that those sounds are the softening of the sounds L and F/S. I'll share these examples if you would like. Point being: Samoan would then by this standard be Proto-Polynesian or else the closest thing to it.  (Jul 13, 2014 | post #118)

Samoa

Original Polynesian language

I'm sorry but my attitude problem right now is coming from the fact that everything you have said, WTF, is trash I read in Wikipedia. Anyone who claims a decisive victory against the mystery that is Proto-Polynesian is simply joking themselves. We have no writing system and thus no way to examine how our languages have evolved. We can only theorize, which is why I phrased every question of mine accordingly. What do you believe and why.  (Jul 13, 2014 | post #117)

Samoa

Original Polynesian language

Like I said there are surnames that are purely Samoan that begin with K, and even words that do not make sense with a t where there is already a K. Can you please substantiate this claim that the interchangeable T-K is only 130 years old. Name the scholars responsible for this theory or give me a line of reason to follow by your own merit. Otherwise it's mere conjecture and you are trying to present it as fact.  (Jul 13, 2014 | post #116)

Samoa

Original Polynesian language

Can you name these so-called linguists? Claiming that there once existed a "Proto-Poly language" is identifying nothing. Do the linguists you are following even have credentials?  (Jul 13, 2014 | post #115)

Samoa

Original Polynesian language

Yes I have seen that. Thanks Mr T you da bahmb!! Heh...  (Jul 11, 2014 | post #106)

Samoa

Original Polynesian language

Yeah. That still assumes a whole lot from the onset, though, friend. Plus we did not lose the k. On top of the fact that it is the interchangeable t, there are last names and certain words that only start in K and are traditional Samoan references. I'm assuming you know the language better than I do, so maybe you can correct me there, but I can't definitively say that the original Polynesian language must have had the 'k' so frequently and subsequently Samoans "dropped " all of them, as opposed to the rest of Polynesia merely softening Samoan sounds and inserting 'k' sounds where the glottal stop was originally pervasive. The reason I am here is because I want to know by way of reason what it is others in study accept. On that note, thanks. Peace  (Jul 11, 2014 | post #105)

Samoa

Original Polynesian language

just a name  (Jun 28, 2014 | post #86)

Samoa

Original Polynesian language

Does anyone know the meaning behind the names of the islands? Not the Sacred Center, North Winds, Tonga = South explanation. Ie: What does Savai'i actually mean? Or is it just a word? I heard Manu'a means "wound," man is that even true?  (Jun 28, 2014 | post #85)

Christian Music

Stop. Share a song.

If everyone shared a Christian / Gospel song with the rest of the members on this forum, someone will surely be touched. You know because the song once spoke / speaks to you. I will share, for those who don't know it, "Send Out A Prayer" by The Anointed. Please, this is why this forum exists. Thanks.  (Jun 27, 2014 | post #1)

Samoa

Original Polynesian language

This is so awesome, jestr, brother, thank you. Yes. This is what I am looking for.  (Jun 24, 2014 | post #77)

Samoa

Original Polynesian language

That'd be freakin awesome!! =)  (Jun 23, 2014 | post #74)

Samoa

Original Polynesian language

Again, thanks. I think that is awesome.  (Jun 22, 2014 | post #71)