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Shun rodeo, animal rights group says

Rodeo acts are how the usa was conquered and a cowboy way of life. If you don't like it move to another country.  (Dec 12, 2012 | post #328)

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormonism)

A Mormon Moment

If you have to tell yourself something doesn't seem right but do it anyways then its not right. Ex. Temple BS and mormon standards. He should use that. Lmao  (Dec 12, 2012 | post #32)

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormonism)

Boy Scouts, Mormon church settle sex abuse lawsuit

All moron mormon bishops and boy scout leaders are child molesters  (Dec 12, 2012 | post #3)

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormonism)

Mormon Church Launches Website On 'Same-Sex Attraction'

If you have to tell yourself something doesn't seem right but do it anyways then its not right. Ex. Temple Weirdness, beliefs and mormon standards  (Dec 12, 2012 | post #38)

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormonism)

Mormon women plan 'Wear Pants to Church Day'

Any moron mormon woman that wears pants, even dress pants to church will be an outcast. If you have to tell yourself something doesn't seem right but do it anyways then its not right. Ex. Temple BS and mormon standards  (Dec 12, 2012 | post #1)

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormonism)

Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

Mormon temple ceremony changes through the years- http://www.utlm.or g/onlinebooks/chan gech22b.htm We, and each of us, covenant and promise that we will not reveal any of the secrets of this, the first token of the Aaronic priesthood, with its accompanying name, sign or penalty. Should we do so; we agree that our throats be cut from ear to ear and our tongues torn out by their roots (Temple Mormonism, p. 18). This oath has been changed to: I, —— (think of the new name) do covenant and promise that I will never reveal the First Token of the Aaronic Priesthood, together with its accompanying name, sign and penalty. Rather than do so I would suffer my life to be taken (Mormonism—Shado w or Reality? p. 468). The second oath was printed as follows by Paden in 1931: We and each of us do covenant and promise that we will not reveal the secrets of this, the Second Token of the Aaronic 530 Priesthood, with its accompanying name, sign, grip or penalty. Should we do so, we agree to have our breasts cut open and our hearts and vitals torn from our bodies and given to the birds of the air and the beasts of the field (Temple Mormonism, p. 20). This has been softened to: I, —— (think of the first given name), do covenant and promise that I will never reveal the second token of the Aaronic Priesthood, together with its accompanying name, sign and penalty. Rather than do so I would suffer my life to be taken (Mormonism—Shado w or Reality? p. 470). The third oath, as printed in Temple Mormonism, p. 20, read: We and each of us do covenant and promise that we will not reveal any of the secrets of this, the First Token of the Melchizedek Priesthood, with its accompanying name, sign or penalty. Should we do so, we agree that our bodies be cut asunder in the midst and all our bowels gush out. This oath now states: I covenant in the name of the Son that I will never reveal the first token of the Melchizedek Priesthood or sign of the nail, with its accompanying name, sign or penalty. Rather than do so I would suffer my life to be taken. Although the oaths are no longer as crude as they used to be, Mormons who go through the temple still draw the thumb across the throat, stomach, etc., as they take these oaths and are told that "The representation of the penalties indicates different ways in which life may be taken (Mormonism—Shado w or Reality? p. 468). To the early Mormon people these oaths were a very serious matter. In a discourse delivered December 13, 1857, Heber C. Kimball, a member of the First Presidency, declared: "Judas lost that saving principle, and they took him and killed him.... they actually kicked him until his bowels came out. " 'I will suffer my bowels to be taken out before I will forfeit the covenant I have made with Him and my brethren.' Do you understand me? ... I know the day is right at hand when men will forfeit their Priesthood and turn against the covenants they have made, and they will be destroyed as Judas was" (Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, pp. 125-26). A person can only begin to imagine how serious these oaths must have been to the Mormon people when the doctrine of "Blood Atonement" was practiced. Now that the oaths have been modified and the practice of "Blood Atonement" abandoned, the Mormon leaders do not have as much control over their people.  (Oct 18, 2012 | post #17565)

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormonism)

Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

Mormon blood atonement "Now take a person in this congregation who has knowledge with regard to being saved... and suppose that he is overtaken in a gross fault, that he has committed a sin that he knows will deprive him of that exaltation which he desires, and that he cannot attain to it without the shedding his blood, and also knows that by having his blood shed he will atone for that sin, and be saved and exalted with the Gods, is there a man or woman in this house but what would say, 'shed my blood that I may be saved and exalted with the Gods?' "All mankind love themselves, and let these principles be known by an individual, and he would be glad to have his blood shed. That would be loving themselves, even unto an eternal exaltation. Will you love your brothers and sisters likewise, when they have committed a sin that cannot be atoned for without the shedding of their blood? Will you love that man or woman well enough to shed their blood? That is what Jesus Christ meant.... "I could refer you to plenty of instances where men have been righteously slain, in order to atone for their sins. I have seen scores and hundreds of people for whom there would have been a chance... if their lives had been taken and their blood spilled on the ground as a smoking incense to the Almighty, but who are now angels to the Devil... I have known a great many men who have left this Church for whom there is no chance whatever for exaltation, but if their blood had been spilled, it would have been better for them.... "This is loving our neighbor as ourselves; if he needs help, help him; and if he wants salvation and it is necessary to spill his blood on the earth in order that he may be saved, spill it.... if you have sinned a sin requiring the shedding of blood, except the sin unto death, would not be satisfied nor rest until your blood should be spilled, that you might gain that salvation you desire. That is the way to love mankind." (Sermon by President Brigham Young, delivered in the Mormon Tabernacle, February 8, 1857; printed in the Deseret News, February 18, 1857; also reprinted in the Journal of Discourses, Vol. 4, pages 219-220) These are only two of many "blood atonement" sermons preached by Mormon leaders. Sandra Tanner, one of the authors of this newsletter who is also the great-great-grandd aughter of Brigham Young, was greatly shocked when she read Young's sermons. This, in fact, was an important factor in her decision to leave the Mormon Church. In 1958, Gustive O. Larson, Professor of Church History at the church's Brigham Young University, acknowledged that blood atonement was actually practiced. He related the following: "To whatever extent the preaching on blood atonement may have influenced action, it would have been in relation to Mormon disciplinary action among its own members. In point would be a verbally reported case of a Mr. Johnson in Cedar City who was found guilty of adultery with his stepdaughter by a bishop's court and sentenced to death for atonement of his sin. According to the report of reputable eyewitnesses, judgment was executed with consent of the offender who went to his unconsecrated grave in full confidence of salvation through the shedding of his blood. Such a case, however primitive, is understandable within the meaning of the doctrine and the emotional extremes of the [Mormon] Reformation." (Utah Historical Quarterly, January, 1958, page 62, note 39) http://www.utlm.or g/newsletters/no92 .htm  (Oct 18, 2012 | post #17564)

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormonism)

Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

Mormons are idiots. If they stopped soliciting they wouldn't survive.  (Oct 18, 2012 | post #17562)

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormonism)

Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

Why is someone asking in the first place? Are mormons Christian? Well if you know Jesus and know mormons you can compare the two of them. So from the comments I've read and what I do know about the two, I would say kind of. I've had stupid people say that Jesus was Mormon. I didn't know he had a religion. Lol Since religion is man made. What do mormons do the most compared to what Jesus did? Most of what I have learned comes from the Book of Mormon and these prophets they have today, not of just Jesus. So I've decided they are half Christian, half mormon. There is your answer so everyone can stop arguing. I would say there is no right one religion. So be non denominational. That is most likely what Jesus was.  (Oct 14, 2012 | post #17471)

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormonism)

Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

Who cares.  (Oct 13, 2012 | post #17417)

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormonism)

Is the U.S. Ready for a Mormon President?

As long as they don't mix religion and politics. Should be interesting. I know religion influences beliefs and actions. Religion is man made anyways.  (Oct 13, 2012 | post #4760)