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carbon 14 dating very inaccurate

You clearly don’t like scientists or science. Evolution is evil. Physics is evil. That’s fine. But your faith requires that you not be hypocrites. As such, please hand in all the fruits of modern science as you exit the forum and head to your idyllic bronze age lives. This would include all computers, phones, cars, clothes and anything else that uses electricity, micro-circuitry or was manufactured or transported by such means. Please refrain from using modern medicine as well as weapons that use metals harder than bronze. Oh.... and please prepare, we will be raiding your village soon. We will take all your females as slaves. Goodbye  (Oct 31, 2012 | post #96)

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The Issue About Time and Space

Ben Your view seems to be that we cannot discount the possibility of a prime-mover. I agree with you that the probability thereof is non-zero, primarily because we have not established an exact cause. Given this, I would like to know what your estimate of that probability is? And how you came up with it? To expand this into religion, I would also estimate probability of the existence of a God (such as one would typically be defined – loving, interventionist, etc) as being both non-zero, but with MUCH lower probability – in the order of 0.1% or lower. Almost all atheists would agree, including Richard Dawkins. The problem is that theists use our intellectual honesty against us (see Ben Stein Interviewing Richard Dawkins) and as such we have become hesitant to be caught up in such traps again.  (Aug 7, 2012 | post #102)

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On Nazi belt buckles and swastikas

He also drew heavily from the work of Martin Luther, none of the major churches in Europe ever denounced him and unfortunately the test for Christianity is not actions, but a confession of belief. But all of that is beside the point. Hitler could have been a scientologist for all the relevance his personal religion has. The point remains that he used Christianity to manipulate the people. Whether it was the belt buckles, or quoting Martin Luther in support of oppressing Jews. Faith encourages belief over reason. It encourages unthinking allegiance to your “Leader”. It encourages an “us and them” view of the world. This allows wide-spread, deeply held faith to be abused in the way Hitler did. Religion was used as a tool to exploit people. “Religion is the opium of the masses.” “Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.” The same is true in the modern Middle East, where religion is used as a political tool by those in power. The same cannot be said to be true of atheists. We tend to be more sceptical and we don’t move, vote or feel the same way about things. The difficulty in organising any secular group is partly due to that. We do not have a common belief or credo that can be used to motivate or guilt us into behaving in a certain way.  (Mar 30, 2012 | post #2)

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Help against persistent theist trying to convert me

Carry a cartoon of Mohammed in your pocket. Show it to him whenever he bothers you. Repeat when required.  (Mar 16, 2012 | post #5)

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Help with some science – thx.

http://www.telegra ph.co.uk/earth/wil dlife/5577724/Moth -turns-from-black- to-white-as-Britai ns-polluted-skies- change-colour.html  (Mar 16, 2012 | post #9)

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Help with some science – thx.

I am looking for any overlap between the science that is everyday, used and accepted and the results that are rejected by the creationists. Is there (for example) any overlap between the science used to determine the distance of stars and the speed they move (using redshift and radio telescopes) and the optics theory used in screens, and the x-ray used in hospital? What about radiometric dating (used for dinosaur bones) and some other practical applications? The idea is to show that many of the scientific results they reject (evolution, age of the earth/universe etc) come from theories in active everyday use. In other words, illustrate they already accept the science, they just did not know it.  (Mar 16, 2012 | post #8)

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Help with some science – thx.

What you are describing is referred to a the Hygiene hypothesis. The hypothesis also includes a section on the increased prevalence of autoimmune diseases in many first world countries. I certainly think we may have a big war or two up our sleeve. I also definitely fear the outbreak of a global pandemic. The worst would be one that has a high mortality rate, high transmission rate and long dormant (but contagious) period. But the original point is that diseases have evolved due to our actions. As such, if you do not believe in evolution then you should not need newer, stronger antibiotics and you’d be happy with the old TB meds.  (Mar 15, 2012 | post #4)

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Help with some science – thx.

No takers it seems........  (Mar 15, 2012 | post #2)

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Help with some science – thx.

It has often been said that Young Earth Creationists along with those that believe in Intelligent design are hypocrites. They are entirely happy to use the fruits of the scientific revolution to make their lives easier and spread their message – and yet they are willing to discredit science around the next bend, using it as they go along. I am looking for a couple of good examples that exposes this hierocracy. One I am familiar with is the fact that antibiotics are being made stronger every couple of years to fight of the bacteria that have adapted to their use. TB, Drug resistant TB and Extreme Drug resistant TB are also examples if this. I am looking for others, in a range of other fields. Technologies and theories used in PCs, mobile phones, planes and other everyday devices that are also used to date the earth/universe or are that directly conflict with parts of YEC or ID doctrine would be very welcome. I would be great to take someone’s phone because they say they don’t “believe” in science that makes it work.  (Mar 12, 2012 | post #1)

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Do You Really Think You'll EVER Get Rid of Evolution?

People have made this mistake before..... sometimes life is stranger than fiction.... esp when dealing with bots!  (Dec 15, 2011 | post #24)

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Atheist Genocides?

True, in a causal manner. There are however several logical, practical and legal problems with that positions. Let’s start with logical...... you define that life starts at the initial meeting between egg and sperm and yet both the egg and sperm are undoubtedly alive and carry within them the potential for life in much the same way that a zygote only has the potential for life. May zygotes and foetuses self terminate well before birth. Given that a zygote has to be defined (due to practical probabilities) as a potential life, how far up the chain do you take this? The average man has 2.5 (say) kids? If you kill him do you get charged with 3.5 murders because you also killed off his likely progeny? You cannot judge the possibility or potential for life, and life on the same standard. Secondly, if you judge a foetus to be alive, you must give it all the same rights as you do a normal human. This would mean that every pregnancy where a child is lost before birth a possible murder investigation would need to be launched. If a mother falls down the stairs and kills the “baby” that could be negligent homicide. If the mother smokes or drinks during pregnancy that is child abuse and the mother needs to be incarcerated. Furthermore legally we must remove the “baby” from the mother’s custody.... how do you do this? Clearly people who advocate for the granting of full legal rights to foetuses have not considered the implications of their position.  (Dec 15, 2011 | post #23)

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Draculatheism

Good Post!  (Dec 13, 2011 | post #4)

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ATHEISTS: If once cannot love God, then can one love at all?

Why your god and why this creation myth? There are other choices. http://www.magicta ils.com/creationli nks.html “I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.” - Stephen Roberts Secondly, love in not dependent and on your debt or guilt due in payment to your existence. Many people are fully capable of love while not loving their parents.  (Dec 13, 2011 | post #2)

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Are There Atheists in Foxholes?

I have faith in the Dragon Reborn, because as it has been written.... "Yet one shall be born to face the Shadow, born once more as he was born before, and shall be born again, time without end. The Dragon shall be Reborn, and there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth at his rebirth. In sackcloth and ashes shall he clothe the people, and he shall break the world again by his coming, tearing apart all ties that bind. Like the unfettered dawn shall he blind us, and burn us, yet shall the Dragon Reborn confront the Shadow at the Last Battle, and his blood shall give us the Light. Let tears flow, O ye people of the world. Weep for your salvation."  (Dec 13, 2011 | post #17)

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Book of Genesis.

Right at the end of my time as a Christian I tried to physically force myself into belief. I bought 3 bibles. One in my Native language, one bible which had a page of text interpretation next to the actual bible text - and because I loved Shakespeare and the Kings English, I bought a King James Bible (which I still contend has some very beautifully written segments.) I read them every night and every morning...... ironically this exercise along with research on the internet regarding religions and their history and reading a book on philosophy (Bertrand Russell) was finally the death blow.... Do I miss it? Not really. Occasionally I miss the illusion of certainty and protection it gave me, but then they never really existed in the first place.... it's like missing Santa. And the greater freedom of thought and action (without guilt) more than makes up for it.  (Dec 2, 2011 | post #15)

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