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Nov 26, 2012

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China Grove, NC

United House of Prayer for All People: Bishop's body in C...

There seems to be a pattern that members choose to ignore. Even the innocent who claim that the stealing is wrong, still...they won't look into. Posting #5558 dated July 15, 2013 created by "Help". "For the love of God I can't see why some can't see through this $2k crap. Many are living paycheck to paycheck. Sooooo if you dint have that amount in the bank why would u pay it and furthermore where did it come from? The Gclass is a huge distraction from the true purpose, or what is said to be our true purpose anyway. It should have been evaluated when Adam Rivers reported his drug money at Char#2 , the third ward mission bank robbers came onto the scene, the sister in Greensboro mh embezzled from A&T and was helping some get on the floor and other instances. The hop mentality is "git dat money" not directly said but indirectly and it almost literally makes me sick to my stomach.  (Dec 4, 2013 | post #7148)

Salisbury, NC

United House of Prayer for All People: Bishop's body in C...

According to the Bible....this statement can be misleading somewhat. It sticks out to me because I've been told this all my life in the UHOP as an excuse that the Bible was not meant for us to read and understand. Correction: First, God is one who is about His devine word just as we should be. He is more committed to His own word then we CAN BE. The same principles He has for us are one's that He can't break himself. Refer to: Hebrews 6:18 That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us:.... 2nd: See we create our destiny with God by the choices WE MAKE. God has already FULLFILLED His promise. The question is WHO will GOD reveal His Truth to? It's all on us. Recall: Luke 11:9 "So I say to you: Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. AND in other words: "I tell you, keep asking, and it will be given you. Keep seeking, and you will find. Keep knocking, and it will be opened to you. Breakdown: THIS IS NOT ABOUT "FOR WHO GOD WANTS TO GIVE IT TO" AS HE WANTS EVERYONE TO KNOW HIM (Point blank) Its for whoever WANTS IT and DESIRES IT FROM THEIR HEARTS. (The Heart Reader will discover that determination and open the door for you to see the good news) Occurrence that made it all possible: Jesus Christ (the promise) is now available for all people. Jesus sacrifice made it possible for us all to see the TRUTH/Good news/understanding ...ultimately, who God truly is/what He wants.... Jehovah/Yahweh can be sought for and revealed to us. We have to want to know in order to know! If people settle in their old traditional ways, then they will never know who God is. Many people who say they go to church faithfully, shout, speak in tongues, listen to sermons, hollar amens still DO NOT KNOW WHO the CREATOR is and don't have a clue. Quote: "We sure have every reason to grab the promised hope in Jesus with both hands and never let go. There is nothing eternal this world can give us. But God can give us everything we need. Jesus is our unbreakable spiritual lifeline. He will guide us back home to God. He will show us the way, he will be the way." God has promised to take care of us. God has promised to be with us until the end of the world. God has promised to save us and give us life and more life. We can count our lives on these promises. GodÂ’s word does not change. God gives to whom wants it. The question should be... do we want what God wants for us, or do we want what man tells us to want for ourselves?  (May 30, 2013 | post #5294)

Pope Benedict XVI

United House of Prayer for All People: Bishop's body in C...

I really don't know exactly what all the different monies are used for, but I can say that the church offering stays in the House, and is not sent to DC. The Church offering is used for exactly what you mentioned: upkeep up the House, utilities, supplies, etc. The issue: Most Houses church offering programs is not a priority until the cut off notices are received; at that time the pressure is on the members to increase their offerings for that particular time, and some Houses borrow from others. It's trifling! The Reason: The money that is sent to DC (G-Class/Daddies Club) is the top priority making the Pastors/State Chairmen look good at the expense of the members. Furthermore, it benefits DC while the House struggles to keep their lights on and water flowing. Members prefer to drop a $100 or $500 in a given G-Class program, but act agitated and broke when asked to pay $20 for church offering or a $6.00 meal. They have secretaries, presidents, and cafeteria workers having to purchase their own supplies because church offering is not a focus for the Houses. If only they would take advantage of the fact that church offering can be arranged to help with alot of different types of expenses and sources, members will have a better understanding of how a church is suppose to operate and may learn how charity works as well. Sending monies to DC is like "diamonds going down the drain". The investment is worthless; no returns. Teach the members to pay Church offering like they do G-Class and maybe there can be some established supportive programs for the members with the right type of concerned pastor. BUT LET'S BE REALISTIC, UHOP men can't be real men in the UHOP. So sorry if I hurt somebody's feelings. But if you can't stand up and tell another man he's wrong, AND help push for a change for your congregation, marriages, families and members, and guest....then your not a MAN. Your just a "son of a " (Bishop) Unfortunately, pastors are trying to please "Daddy" and pleasing "Daddy" is the ticket to keeping their pastor seats; so being a man is difficult trying to follow behind the set-up of the HOP. Go against the grain for the members sake and learn that you can lose your seat quickly. Other monies like state expenses, fines, and fees are being used at the discretion of the pastor. But! For some Houses, you may want to check in on Sunday School offerings. Your Sunday School offerings may not really being going towards offering afterall. The name of Sunday School offering should be changed to something much more appropriate. Maybe someone else can enlighten you on the other monies.  (Nov 28, 2012 | post #4169)

Pope Benedict XVI

United House of Prayer for All People: Bishop's body in C...

I'm going to get right to it... The UHOP is right? What makes the UHOP right? Somebody please tell me. Give it to us straight. When Jesus was walking the earth, he didn't go around telling people to go to the UHOP. At least I never read it. So how is it right? I've hear many times...."the UHOP is right, it's just the people". Here's something to think about.... If Jesus was here today would He sit at the UHOP and state that He will stay right where He is and not going anywhere. Just sit there on a throne over a few people in this entire world. Would He also demand you not to go anywhere to spread His gospel and that if the world wants to know about Him, they must visit the projects of New York, New Jersey DC, Virginia, North Carolina, Georgia, South Carolina, Florida, etc. and do a search for the UHOP? Really? Would He say...if the people are not at the UHOP, then they won't get to see or hear from me (Jesus). Really? Do you think that Jesus would ignore other people in other states of the United State, or other countries, ie....Japan, China, Africa, Australia. Do you think that He would just ignore them? "House of Prayer is right". Oh.....kay. Does that make the Saint John Episcopal church (made up name) wrong? What does the 'UHOP is right" really mean? Not trying to market here, but I have sprint phone service. When I have issues, I call sprint and demand to fix the issues or "I'm out". I don't call other sprint customers and convince them that maybe Sprint has issues but "Sprint is right". I may have drop calls and unnecessary charges, but I know for sure Sprint is right and I'm not going NOWHERE!!! Please!!!!If I get another drop call, I'm gonna to change plans!! This is what I heard...."Jes us came to save the world" not just a few people over a few states within America.  (Nov 28, 2012 | post #4166)