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Michael Jackson

MJ owned book depicting nude children written by nambla ...

Nice try at deflection, but it was you that claimed his porn was strewn everywhere for kids to easily pick up and you haven't provided one jot of evidence to prove that yet. Should I not defend a person I believe to be innocent of crimes alleged against him if I have any issues with his judgement then?  (Sep 26, 2012 | post #177)

Michael Jackson

MJ owned book depicting nude children written by nambla ...

Of course I've read it. I read/listen to/watch everything that's put out there on this subject. How can anyone ever begin to form a valid, intelligent opinion if they don't? If you could link me to any evidence that any of that stuff was left lying around when a child was visiting (names/dates/items etc.) that would be great.  (Sep 26, 2012 | post #175)

Michael Jackson

MJ owned book depicting nude children written by nambla ...

Why don't you read the DATE that the search was done and then let me know the identities of all visiting children who were present AT THAT TIME and had access to any of the items. Then, if you'd be so good as to let me know the location of each item during FEBRUARY/MARCH 2003 when the Arvisos were there and then we can see what these "easy-to-disc over places" actually were AT THAT TIME. If you have any 'legal documents' identifying any other children who actually say any of these "easy-to-disc over" bottles, pills or porn mags then please post them too. TIA  (Sep 26, 2012 | post #173)

Michael Jackson

MJ owned book depicting nude children written by nambla ...

Craig Bonner was a detective. He'd had some "training " - to help him recognise the type of material that a child molester might use in a grooming process. He states this in the document - please read it. He listed the items that he though "could be" or "may be" used in a grooming process. That is all. He was NOT a 'criminologist', had NO qualifications in criminology and made NO expert 'analysis' of the material. Anyone who takes the time to do a little reading about child sex offenders would know as much about what use could be made of this type of material as he did. By your definition, most of us on this forum are also expert 'criminologists' by now! Stop making things up to suit your fantasies and learn to read!  (Sep 26, 2012 | post #172)

Michael Jackson

Michael Jackson had semen stains from other males on his bed

Frank Cascio was there during the weeks before the search. MJ was in Las Vegas and had been for weeks. MJ had given Cascio permission to be on the ranch in his absence, but he didn't know Cascio had friends on the property, drank wine, had wild parties and used all the facilities. He was mad at Cascio when he found out. Cascio was MJ's employed assistant at the time and had been for a few years. Do you think he hadn't already been in MJ's private rooms on numerous occasions, or that he wouldn't know the door code, or that the house manager would refuse a request from MJ's assistant if he said he needed to go into the suite? Man on man sex? Do you think that the semen stains (which was the only DNA source looked for and tested for on the bed) somehow proved that the depositors of those stains were in bed together? I've seen some really strange leaps of logic on here but that one's worthy of an Olympic medal!  (Sep 26, 2012 | post #18)

Michael Jackson

Michael Jackson had semen stains from other males on his bed

It wasn't in his private space. The bag was found in a storage area above the video arcade (a separate building) where there was a video library, storage areas, a small apartment and space that 2 people working for MJ were using as an office and sleeping quarters. There were numerous people (employees, business associates, family and friends) coming and going from Neverland and it's various buildings every day, many staying on the property for long periods, including several guests during the time the Arvisos were there. There's no evidence that MJ had any part in bagging that laundry, storing it or causing the cocaine to be there, or that he even knew about the bags. The problem with people like you who don't do any research (probably because you can't read) is that they have no clue about the layout, size, operational set-up or multiple occupancy and use of Neverland and it's various buildings. Totally clueless!  (Sep 26, 2012 | post #17)

Michael Jackson

Michael Jackson Revealed! Defending A King ~ His Life & L...

There's not even any actual evidence that Charles de Bois said anything of the sort, but as you say, even if there was it has no sexual connotations. Only in Disgusting's mind, and we can all see how that works by her sick interpretation of MJ's inscription in one of the books. She just takes 'facts' (mostly unsubstantiated OPINIONS and ASSUMPTIONS) that she gets from the ludicrously named 'mjfacts' website and runs with them! Much of it is copied almost word for word. Most of the time she can't even explain the rationale of her allegations, she just reposts the 'copy and paste' or a link to a 'legal document' and if you challenge her further she'll just call you a 'pedo supporter' and scuttle away. (Note to IndaDark: Yes, I HAVE been to that site because I looked at ALL the available evidence, for and against, before forming MY opinion)  (Sep 26, 2012 | post #44)

Michael Jackson

MJ owned book depicting nude children written by nambla ...

The search was conducted in NOVEMBER 2003. There were NO kids around to pick anything up, except for possibly his own children, the eldest of whom was 6 at the time. It's clear they were brought up to have respect and behave themselves so I doubt they would have been turning out their father's closets, drawers, boxes etc without his knowledge or permission (unlike the Arvisos, who ransacked and snooped wherever they went). Even if they had it would have been no different than millions of other domestic situations where kids have come across their own father's/brothers girlie mags. by snooping where they shouldn't. Not good, but it happens every day. It doesn't make any of those parents criminals or 'unfit' parents and neither would it for MJ. At the time of the search MJ and his kids had all been in Las Vegas for weeks anyway because MJ was filming a music video there. The bathroom was LOCKED The closet was LOCKED The office was LOCKED The entire bedroom suite was LOCKED The room ABOVE the video library (where Frank Cascio and Vinny Amin had an office and sleeping quarters) where some magazines were found, was LOCKED I'm not aware of any porn found in the library. There was no porn in any of the visitor/public areas. Do you have a link to where any of this stuff was when any child was actually visiting, what was 'strewn' around at that time and whether they had free access to it? As for the 2 books found in the filing cabinet, aside from the fact that they were out of print, 1st editions and the fact that MJ saw one as a representation of childhood freedom and happiness, are you seriously alleging some sinister motive because they were locked away, whilst in the same breath alleging a sinister motive is proven if material depicting nudity is NOT locked away? Also, do you have a list of what else was stored in that filing cabinet in 1993. He had several girlie mags and centrefolds dating back to 1990. Do you know where they were kept?  (Sep 25, 2012 | post #166)

Michael Jackson

Michael Jackson - The Glenda Tapes

I've never heard of "vindicatemj " but you seem very familiar with the site. You're a closet MJ fan really, aren't you! <chortle>  (Sep 25, 2012 | post #543)

Michael Jackson

Michael Jackson - The Glenda Tapes

I'm sure there must be an adult literacy class running somewhere near you. It's never too late to learn you know, and there's no need to feel embarrassed. I would have suggested that you buddy-up with Disgusting and learn together, but I've now realised that she needs therapy, not a copy of "My First Reader".  (Sep 25, 2012 | post #542)

Michael Jackson

AEG Drops Michael Jackson Insurance Claim

Please learn to read! You owe it to yourself.  (Sep 25, 2012 | post #133)

Michael Jackson

Michael Jackson - Michael Jackson Religious Portrait At C...

OMG!!! Is THAT what his inscription means to you? Bl**dy H*ll! You are one SICK cookie! I understand now why you constantly misrepresent the facts, distort the truth and often post totally false information. I thought it was a problem with comprehension or a lack of knowledge, or just a deliberately perverted stance to invoke a reaction from "f'loons ", but this is really how your mind works!!! UGH!!!  (Sep 25, 2012 | post #74)

Michael Jackson

MJ owned book depicting nude children written by nambla ...

Sorry, I'll have to decline your invitation for a rendezvous with you because, unlike you, I have never stated or suggested that "it's perfectly fine for man/boy sleepovers" or that "there's nothing wrong with a book that features full frontal nudity of young boys being published". It's gonna be a table for one for your little outing I'm afraid, but if you wear your tallest, sparkliest platforms I'm sure you'll make a splash!  (Sep 25, 2012 | post #160)

Michael Jackson

Michael Jackson - The Glenda Tapes

No rebuttal? OK................ .thanks for popping in. NEXT!  (Sep 25, 2012 | post #532)

Michael Jackson

MJ owned book depicting nude children written by nambla ...

Oh dear! Another one who's living in a world of fantasy! What is it about the Haters on this forum? They all seem to develop alternate realities sooner or later. It must be an involuntary defence mechanism that clicks in when reality dawns that they've been talking out of their ar**s for years. I'm sorry to see that you too have succumbed to the affliction, InDaDark. Get well soon! <HUGS>  (Sep 25, 2012 | post #158)