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San Francisco, CA

Underwear bomber gets multiple life sentences, never exp...

He should spend his life in prison for trying to kill innocent people. If I had been on that plane I'd definitely want him to spend his life in prison, or worse. At the same time, I have no difficulty understanding why some extreme supporters of arab/muslim causes around the world might hate the United States, given e.g. our arrogant and unquestioning belief in the superiority of our nation, our support for a brutal apartheid system in Israel, and the many, many innocent arabs/muslims who we have killed in our meddling in the middle east.  (Feb 17, 2012 | post #2)

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Ron Paul: U.S. Already Committing Acts of War Against Iran

I'll have to think about a proper response to your rather well-argued post. The most obviously questionable bit is thisThat, to many people, is not at all clear. At least in a literal sense. Perhaps you meant economically? The main example that I'm aware of where Islamic terrorists literally attacked on US soil was 9/11. In his public statements Bin Laden made it clear that 9/11 was a retaliation for a history of aggressive, anti-arab, US foreign policy. In particular I think he mentioned the Israel-Palestine conflict. So that all goes against what you said: no America in the Middle East, no attacks on American shores. Israel, and international economic activity in the Middle East, yes those would be a problem. On the whole I think powerful people in that part of the world do not want to cross the oceans and attack America. Certainly that is true of Saddam Hussein and the Taliban.  (Jan 24, 2012 | post #45)

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Ron Paul: U.S. Already Committing Acts of War Against Iran

Stratton, Thank you. I'm not being deliberately dense. I had completely forgotten about the Beirut barracks bombing. That is because of my own ignorance. I was too young at the time to remember it, but I have heard of it. I can understand the anger of muslims towards the pro-Israel US army involvement but it was a horrific act and if you say that Iran was involved in it then I'm prepared to believe that that might be true (I'm in no position to argue with you about this, seeing as you had to remind me of its existence!) Still, Iran never declared war on America -- no US government has ever claimed that Iran declared war against them. I believe the US government line is that both the 1979 hostage taking and the 1983 bombing were acts of terrorism (correct me if I'm wrong), not aggression by a foreign state. The 299 soldiers killed in Lebanon in 1983 were part of an army involved in a civil war overseas -- not merely a peacekeeping force, they had been involved in fighting. What Ron Paul says is true: if america would keep its military out of the middle east, then people in the middle east would not hate us so much, and there would be less bloodshed on all sides. What is so wrong with avoiding bloodshed? Anyway, you educated me here, thanks. Asian Guy -- How about more of the educating and less of the mindless insults? All you had to do was show me where I was going wrong.  (Jan 24, 2012 | post #43)

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Ron Paul: U.S. Already Committing Acts of War Against Iran

You gave two links: http://en.wikipedi a.org/wiki/Iran_%E 2%80%93_United_Sta tes_relations http://en.wikipedi a.org/wiki/Iran_Ai r One is the Wikipedia Page for a national airline. The other is a page on the relationship between Iran and the USA. Nowhere does it say that Iran declared war on the USA in 1979. There is no mention of atrocities killing hundreds of Americans. Seriously, I don't want to trade insults. But I do want to resolve this disagreement. At the moment, you have lost. You appear to be believe things which are completely false and which you can't provide any evidence for. Where are you getting these ideas from that Iran has declared war on America and killed hundreds of Americans? Paste the sentences that support your claim, and provide the URL where you got the sentence from.  (Jan 24, 2012 | post #37)

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Ron Paul: U.S. Already Committing Acts of War Against Iran

No it did not. Show us a source confirming that Iran declared war on the USA in 1979Are you saying that shooting down civilian airliners is OK during warWhat incidents? The two links you provided said nothing about Iran killing 300+ Americans. Show us references or admit that you are lyingWhat atrocities have the Iranians committed against Americans? Are you starting to see how you have been lied to? Not everything that the people around you say is true my friend.  (Jan 24, 2012 | post #33)

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Ron Paul: U.S. Already Committing Acts of War Against Iran

http://en.wikipedi a.org/wiki/Iran_Ai r_Flight_655 We killed 290 innocent people when we shot down an Iranian passenger jet over Iranian territory in 1988. How do you think we would feel if someone killed 290 people by shooting down a US passenger plane over US soil? We have never admitted responsibility or apologized. This was a classic example of American arrogance and inhumanity towards non-Americans. What do you expect the Iranian public to think of us if that's how we act?  (Jan 24, 2012 | post #30)

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Outrage Over Video of Marines Urinating on Corpses

America sends ignorant, inhumane scum like you to perform operations in foreign countries, and you expect the rest of us to be sorry when the IEDs go off?  (Jan 13, 2012 | post #410)

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Outrage Over Video of Marines Urinating on Corpses

Hi ZigmunnDroid, Look, I agree that on average rural Missourians treat women better than rural Afghans. But the objectives of the invasion were to prevent something like 9/11 happening again, not to punish people for not upholding western social values. Surely you wouldn't want America to go and kill people in every foreign country where we don't like how they are living their lives?  (Jan 13, 2012 | post #357)

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Outrage Over Video of Marines Urinating on Corpses

No you didn't understand. I'm asking what your attitude is to the 1.8 million Americans who are Muslims? From what you write, you seem to wish death upon them. So it sounds as though you should not be serving the American people, seeing as you want to kill 1.8 million of them.  (Jan 13, 2012 | post #288)

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Outrage Over Video of Marines Urinating on Corpses

The thing is, in Afghanistan we are not fighting a conventional army, that represents a state. A lot of the people we kill were not supporters of the Taliban takeover of Afghanistan. They just ended up with guns in their hands when a foreign invading force came to their village. (Well, a lot of the people we kill weren't even bearing arms) The political structure of Afghanistan was such that you can't simply say all Afghans are valid enemies simply because the Taliban in Kabul wouldn't kick out Al Qaeda.  (Jan 12, 2012 | post #159)

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Outrage Over Video of Marines Urinating on Corpses

So you wouldn't care if they took 1.8 million Americans, cut them open and put pig shit inside their dead bodies? Look at the CIA world factbook. There are 1.8 million Muslim Americans. You are unpleasant and stupid. I sincerely hope no country's armed forces have made the mistake of allowing you to enlist.  (Jan 12, 2012 | post #156)

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Outrage Over Video of Marines Urinating on Corpses

We had a choice of whether to go and kill Afghans in Afghanistan. The Afghans had no choice over whether to be invaded by us. Just stop for a second and imagine what you would want to do to foreigners invading your hometown. That's how the Afghans feel.  (Jan 12, 2012 | post #35)

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Outrage Over Video of Marines Urinating on Corpses

Hi Waterdogg, the American soldiers are in rural Afghanistan, killing people. The people you see lying there dead did not declare war on the United States. If they were fighting the Americans at all then they were just doing what you would be doing if there were a bunch of armed Afghan's roaming around rural Missouri killing people.  (Jan 12, 2012 | post #8)

Redwood City, CA

Google Santorum - Redwood City, CA

Actually I wouldn't say it's hilarious, but it's a powerful example of what an online community can achieve. He totally deserved it of course -- he was talking about making gay sex illegal, not gay marriage; that really makes Christians look both stupid and cruel.  (Jan 7, 2012 | post #1)

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Santorum Booed for Comparing Gay Marriage To Polygamy

This was awesome by the way. Lol. Thanks.  (Jan 7, 2012 | post #658)