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Is homosexuality a sin?

...homosexuality being a "sin"... not a "sing", lol.  (10 hrs ago | post #103561)

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Is homosexuality a sin?

If you've stated them to someone else, please keep in mind that I don't read every single post here. When different people ask ME about my beliefs, I am more than happy to explain them again and again. This shouldn't be an issueNo, you are in a discussion forum about homosexuality and sin. And, you are here voluntarily. You should not be so reticent to discuss these issues. When you're done discussing them, you should consider going elsewhere, like appropriate forums for discussing the new things that you DO want to discussNo need for scouring the internet for your past statements. You can clear up the confusion right now. DO you consider (unrepentant) homosexuality something worthy of punishment, or notThat is not how punishment is described in the Bible. I'm curious about whatever punishment that Christians believe occur AFTER lifeI am very happy with my life, you have no idea. But I share this planet with 7 billion others, and I'm curious about what drives them, and what beliefs they hold, and why. It is as if you are telling me NOT to discuss these things, even though we are BOTH in a forum which is specifically intended for that very discussionAs I've explained, I'm fascinated by the beliefs of others. Our beliefs inform our actions, and our actions have consequences for those around us. Understanding those beliefs can help the world run smoother for everyone. Why are you being so dissuasive about this subjectI believe that organisms eventually break down and cease to operate, yes. As I understand it, most Christians believe there is more after thatThere are many, many websites which exist for the discussion of current news. If you don't find discussions about homosexuality being a sing interesting, then it is strange that you would choose to frequent a forum titled "Is homosexuality a sin?". I would not visit a Christian website and then say "Christianity is not interesting, this discussion should be about Native American brick-making instead". I would stick to the subject matter, or I would leaveWhy? Republican politics are viciously exclusionary to gay people. It should not be surprising that very few gays are Republicans. If we had more welcoming choices, I think you would see us on a wider variety of political "pages". But that is not going to happen while conservative politics treat us like dirt.  (10 hrs ago | post #103560)

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Is homosexuality a sin?

No, I didn't put in any "2 cents" about eating soy anywhere. You ASKED me about GMO foods, so I answered your question. I explained that I eat a lot of soy because I live in a Japanese household, but I said NOTHING about "believing it was GMO soy". I couldn't care LESS if something is GMO. You have a hard time sticking to the subject matter. Why are you taking this into so many unrelated directions? You should go find a specialized forum about GMO's if that's what you care to discuss. Please feel free to refrain from mentioning GMO's to me, I have no interest in that. I want to know more about this "place of eternal punishment" which you believe exists. I want to better understand the many varied Christian positions about homosexuality and sin. It's bizarre that I should come to a forum which is TITLED "Is homosexuality a sin?" and then be told that this is not the subject of discussion. I don't understand how a Christian (or just anyone for that matter) could look at the concept of Hell and determine that it represents moral justice, or moral treatment of ANY kind. I'd like to know if there's something about it that I don't understand. Because it sounds like the most IMmoral concept I've ever heard. How can people earn an ETERNAL punishment, when their crimes can only be committed over a finite lifetime? How can people even be held responsible for their crimes, if God knew that they would go to Hell before he even created the universe? If God wants the universe to be a place of minimal suffering, then why even create Hell? Why doesn't this concept of punishment include provisions for rehabilitation or correction? And also, which scientific principles have led you to your belief in this "place"? You often talk as if you respect the concepts of the Scientific Method, so I'd like to know what process of discovery and confirmation gave you your confidence that a place of eternal punishment exists in the first place.  (11 hrs ago | post #103559)

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Is homosexuality a sin?

I can't imagine what I said to elicit you to lead off your reply with this. Do you have something against remaining civil? I don't care about GMO's. If I did, I would go to a website about it discuss it there. Instead, I came to a thread about homosexuality, and sin, to discuss THOSE things. Yet oddly, you ignored ALL my questions about the idea that people should be punished (eternally) for things (like homosexuality or disbelief) which can't really be described as "crimes" or "wrongdoings " in any way. I don't understand why you've come to a thread intended for discussion of theology, when you'd rather discuss unrelated tangents like climate change or Bowe Bergdahl's prisoner exchange.  (Yesterday | post #103538)

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Editor Who Was Fired After Complaining About The "Gaystap...

The right to freedom of speech doesn't guarantee anyone a job. No one's religion calls on them to turn away select customers. You are describing things which simply aren't so.  (Monday Jul 28 | post #14)

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Editor Who Was Fired After Complaining About The "Gaystap...

Neither this editor's free speech nor his religious freedom have been challenged or infringed in the least.  (Monday Jul 28 | post #12)

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Is homosexuality a sin?

But why would someone merit "eternal " punishment? Most people get about 80 years of life here on Earth, and many get much less than that. What crimes could someone possibly commit in that time period which would earn them an eternal punishment? Is there no room for rehabilitation or correction? Punishment which never ends seems incredibly unjust to me. But then, this endless punishment is not really for "crimes" , is it? If I understand correctly, it is actually punishment for lack of belief. Or do I have that wrong? If I'm correct, then this seems even MORE unjust. Punishing people because of what they believe? Why is that something for which people need to be punished? I am not an evil, wayward criminal in need of punishment, simply because I find the claims of the Bible to be implausible. There MUST be something which I don't understand about this "eternal punishment" conceptDo you? What data do you rely on for information about this place of eternal punishment? Aren't religious claims lacking in the kind of evidentiary support which normally help people to pick sides in a scientific debate? How can you reach such confident conclusions about supernatural concepts, and then claim that you use sound scientific analysis for real-life issues? If you disregard evidence and demonstrability as standards of proof for religious claims, then how can your own scientific acumen be fully trusted? Let's try to "look past all the propaganda" about Heaven and Hell. What data can we rely on to help us pick a side? Is there any? Why should anyone pick ANY side, if there's no concrete information either way? Wouldn't it be the MOST honest to admit that supernatural concepts remain unproven and unprovable, rather than picking one unproven claim over another oneIt all sounds good to me. Living in a Japanese household (though I am not Japanese), I eat plenty of soy. Humans have been genetically modifying their crops for millennia. I have no issue with itBut I think WasteWater is correct; a punishment which does not end is not a just punishment. It is more like throwing someone in the trash and forgetting about them forever. It would require an inhumane level of comfort with someone else’s suffering. It doesn’t seem to have anything to do with any specific crime, but just an incorrect belief.  (Monday Jul 28 | post #103508)

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Is homosexuality a sin?

Your post makes your beliefs unclear. Do you even believe in Hell? What do you believe about it? Is anyone going to Hell? If anyone is still discussing the thread topic, then an understanding of Hell would be necessary for an understanding of sinWhat does science say about Hell? I don't understand why you pick sides based on whichever evidence you like better, yet you are confident and intractable when it comes to supernatural concepts which are entirely without evidence at all.  (Saturday Jul 26 | post #103458)

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Is homosexuality a sin?

And atheists aren't especially given to lying. I didn't hear what was said about gay people, but maybe you'd be accused of bashing less if you were generalizing lessSo does it seem to you that gay people deserve Hell for living happily and unabashedly in same-sex relationships? What is your understanding of Hell? Is it a just reward for people who find religions unconvincing, or who build relationships according to their homosexual attractions in the same way that heterosexuals build relationships according to theirs? Should young people who realize they are gay be encouraged to find happiness with a life-partner of the same gender?  (Friday Jul 25 | post #103451)

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Is homosexuality a sin?

Can we call you out for bashing atheists? Why don't you keep your accusations narrowed to the specific people that you think are lying? Do you get a special satisfaction out of disparaging an entire demographic of people rather than just one individual? You REALLY love your broad brush, don't you? The first time I spoke to you, it was to call you out for claiming that "gay people" want to make enemies out of all Christians. You assured me that you didn't mean ALL gay people are like that, but here you are again, up to your old generalizing tricks.  (Friday Jul 25 | post #103438)

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Fired Editor Sues for His Religious Freedom to Write Abou...

They ARE protected... against GOVERNMENT interference and repercussion.  (Friday Jul 25 | post #11)

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Judge Asked To Lift Fla. Keys Gay Marriage Stay

Then you'd better get on it, we're not going to institutionalize ourselves, and I can't think of anyone else who is going to do it FOR you.  (Thursday Jul 24 | post #14)

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Is homosexuality a sin?

Can't argue with that. Religion rots your brain.  (Wednesday Jul 23 | post #103385)

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Is homosexuality a sin?

http://onlinelibra ry.wiley.com/doi/1 0.1111/cogs.12138/ abstract  (Tuesday Jul 22 | post #103378)

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