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But of that day knoweth no man, Matthew 24:36

Sidgi, So this is the only time in mankind's story where these features apply? When would you have preferred to live during say the past 1000 years? Doug  (Friday May 29 | post #3)

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1919 WTS doctrinal changes

xjw, Decades ago, I came to the conclusion that JWs obey the Watch Tower Society because of WHO it claims to be regardless of WHAT it says. And I have a message for you Larry (LineCaller, etc, etc.): you are no different to the members of the Governing Body - all you and they can talk about is themself. Doug  (Tuesday May 26 | post #9)

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The Watch Tower Society reveals itself

Hi xjw, I am retired - 74 years old. I live alone - my wife of 46 years died 8 years ago. I can still think, but for how much longer? Watching TV would be a waste of the few years that are left to me. I enjoy the challenge, the thrill of discovery. Time is a gift that we must make full use of. Doug  (Monday May 25 | post #3)

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The Watch Tower Society reveals itself

Over time, the Watch Tower Society has completely changed many of its beliefs. For example, until recently, the WTS said that the emblems of the Memorial represented the Church, the 144,000, that the emblems did not symbolize Jesus. At times, the WTS changes the name of a belief while it continues the teaching, For example, the WTS used to say that Jesus and the 144,000 together were the "The Christ". Today, the WTS denies this teaching but the name "Anointed " means "Christ" . Do you want to see what the Watch Tower reveals about these things and more? Then read: http://www.jwstudi es.com/The_Watch_T ower_Society_Revea ls_Itself.pdf Doug  (Sunday May 24 | post #1)

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What are the new heavens and the new earth?

While researching the Bible, you would have come across the belief that Colossians, which you quoted above, is not a genuine writing of Paul's. It was written by people who falsely pretended to be Paul. Doug  (Friday May 22 | post #2420)

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Unity of CHURCHianity- Oxymoron

So what is Truth? Whose opinion matters? How do you know that you must worship with spirit and truth? What does that mean? Who wrote that? Does God murder people if they have less than 50% of his/her knowledge? Or does the score have to be higher? What happens with people who are mentally impaired? How do you know there is a spirit that goes about teaching? Does that spirit bypass any human source of information? Why DOES it matter? Doug  (Thursday May 14 | post #6)

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Is Jehovah Witness being part of the annoited 144,000

In 1931, the name "Jehovah's witnesses" was applied to the 144,000 only (also known as "The Christ", the "anointed "). The designation "Jehovah's witnesses" was not extended to the "great multitude" until 1946, but that concept would have gone against Rutherford. Although 1931 marked the time of the declaration, Rutherford had started to use Isa 43:10, 12 from 1925 Doug  (Wednesday May 13 | post #4)

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What are the new heavens and the new earth?

Joe, Prove to me that God "inspired " men. Surely the text says that the words are god-breathed, not the men. And that is an internal claim. The Qu'ran says it is a direct transcription from heaven. Is that good enough proof? Who created the various Bibles and the variant texts, and when? Why does no one know what was originally written? Why did God not protect the written words? Doug  (Monday May 11 | post #2392)

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What are the new heavens and the new earth?

Thanks Joe. Not a problem. If you want to have a sense of my view of the Bible(s), start with: http://www.jwstudi es.com/God-breathe d_Scriptures.pdf Within it, you will see references to other related material I have written. ---- The following is from a Watchtower magazine that speaks of the "Golden Age". Doug ================ The germ of theocratic direction really began in the fall of 1919 with the launching of the work of “The Golden Age,” which new magazine was released in October, 1919. “The Golden Age work is a house-to-house canvass with the kingdom message, proclaiming the day of vengeance of our God and comforting them that mourn. In addition to the canvass, a copy of The Golden Age is to be left at each home, whether a subscription is taken or not. … Class workers will procure their samples from the Director.” (The Watchtower, May 15, 1955, page 298)  (Sunday May 10 | post #2388)

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Unity of CHURCHianity- Oxymoron

Why does it matter? Can anyone say that they have the complete understanding that a god would have? Does God operate an examination on doctrinal purity? If doctrinal accuracy is the criterion, then when will the WTS make up its mind on what it Truth, instead of continually changing its mind? If its "truth" is subject to change, then what is Truth? When will the WTS drop its traditional word "Yehovah "? Doug  (Saturday May 9 | post #4)

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What are the new heavens and the new earth?

Thank you, Joe. I did not say these were Biblical terms. These are the meanings that are imposed upon the Bible by the Watch Tower Society. The "Golden Age" magazine, published from 1919, was renamed "Consolation " magazine in 1937 - both under the editorship of Clayton Woodworth. In 1946, the magazine was renamed "Awake!" and published anonymously. Doug  (Saturday May 9 | post #2386)

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What are the new heavens and the new earth?

I have not participated in this Thread before nor have I trawled through it. So excuse me if this has been pointed out before. In Watch Tower terminology (not mine), the term "new heavens" means "the 144,001" while the term "new earth" means "a new organized society on earth". My references are: The Golden Age, November 26, 1919, page 158 The Watchtower announcing Jehovah’s Kingdom, September 1, 1963, pages 537-538 Doug  (Friday May 8 | post #2384)

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Who put the bible physical together

Only the Isaiah scroll from the Dead Sea community resembles other available Greek texts. Other scrolls, such as the Habakkuk scrolls are quite different. The DSS are of course from the LXX (Greek) tradition, not from the Hebrew (MT). There is a wide range of Greek OT texts as well as differences between the Greek and Hebrew texts. Look, for example at the LXX and MT versions of Jeremiah. If you are genuinely interested in the canonisation process, I prepared as Study which is available at: http://www.jwstudi es.com/Why_Does_WT S_Accept_Christend oms_Scriptures.pdf You might also find this Study also of interest: http://www.jwstudi es.com/God-breathe d_Scriptures.pdf Doug  (Apr 28, 2015 | post #6)

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Did God send...HIMSELF?

Hi Mad, I have been otherwise occupied. I see that you have an answer that satisfies yourself and it is vital that you hold to a position that you genuinely believe in. I do not agree with everything you wrote, but what should be surprising about that! No two people on this planet, past or present, have identical beliefs or understandings. Also, my own positions constantly grow and develop. They are not fixed in concrete or buried in a coffin. My thoughts are dynamic. I wish you well in your endeavours. For the record, I do not believe the Bible to be the word of God. The collections of scriptures (and there is a variety of lists) were assembled by humans who argued for centuries. It just so happens that the sect with allegiance to Paul won the day, with the help of Roman emperors (who also forced the Trinity doctrine - Theodosius). I do not believe that Jesus pre-existed. To me that is incomprehensible, hence my questions. Hence my answer to your question - God did not send himself. Jesus was a human. Doug  (Apr 27, 2015 | post #34)

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Did God send...HIMSELF?

Thank you "Mad", So you are saying that the previous spirit being ceased to exist but that Jesus pre-existed? I did not say "Three Gods". I simply said that a God did not send himself. Paul might have died but that does not prove he was telling the truth. He said he did not get his ideas from any man so they must have been the product of his imagination. People are today blowing themselves up because of their religious convictions but that of itself does not prove their convictions are true. Doug  (Apr 19, 2015 | post #12)

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