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The Shaking of Adventism

Gen. 2:2-3; Mark 2:27.  (Jan 4, 2014 | post #97)

Seventh-day Adventist

The Shaking of Adventism

She never set a date--lie #334You are the liar; she never said any such thingchristine loves to get spanked! 657. Robinson, B. A. "Seventh-day Adventist Church Its origin, beliefs, practices, etc.," Retrieved and printed Nov. 17, 2010, from http://www.religio ustolerance.org/sd a2.htm. He concluded (without seeing the type of study recommended by Dr. Veltman*--he looked at this: http://dedication. www3.50megs.com/Da vid/) that I had already "demonstrate[ d] that there is no proof of Ellen White's plagiarism." * In fact, Dr. Veltman proved back in 1988 that EGW was NOT a plagiarist.  (Jan 4, 2014 | post #96)

Seventh-day Adventist

The Shaking of Adventism

Dr. Veltman's study showed that she quotes from the Bible in over 30% of her work.  (Jan 4, 2014 | post #95)

Seventh-day Adventist

The Shaking of Adventism

As much as Paul did: 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the LordOne of our members went to another state. he wanted to be the head elder. When they refused him, he quit the church and wrote my folks a long letter. In the midst of the letter he made a claim about EGW that he didn't back up with any sort of fact. OTOH, we've had members leave the church because they were playing around with another person's spouse--but then, they didn't attack EGW, either.  (Jan 4, 2014 | post #94)

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Dizzy worker stated Jesus was CORRUPT

Agreed with the body having been weakened over time. However, He did NOT have the inborn inclination to sin, as we do.  (Jan 4, 2014 | post #14)

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I just got done reading about Ellen white

I note the lack of proof.  (Jan 4, 2014 | post #173)

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One Day = One Year

Many historicist writers on the prophecies in various countries had anticipated William Miller in reckoning the 2300 days as years, beginning at the starting point of the 70 weeks. A number of them had arrived at approximately Miller’s dating. 1. Chronology, From Petri to Miller. As early as 1768 Johann Petri, a Reformed pastor near Frankfurt, Germany, wrote that the 2300 days, or years, and the 70 weeks (490 years) were to be computed as beginning together. He reckoned the 2300 from 453 years before Christ’s birth to 1,847 years after it, and placed the Crucifixion in the middle of the seventieth week (Dan. 9:27) and the Second Advent at the end of the 2300 days, leading to the millennium. A half century later and onward, many expositors dated the period in similar fashion, either 457 B.C. to A.D. 1843 or 1844, or 453 B.C. to A.D. 1847; others used different dates, some ending in 1866 or 1867. The figure 1847 was in many instances (for example, for Petri) virtually equivalent to 1843 because it was reckoned as 1,847 years from the birth of Christ, which was dated in 4 B.C. by the then-popular Ussher’s chronology. In his Prophetic Faith of Our Fathers, volume 4, L. E. Froom lists about 35 writers between 1810 and 1844 who ended the period in 1843 or 1844, most of them in England, but including some in Scotland, Ireland, Germany, and the United States; about 25 who looked to 1847 (five of them using a supposed 2400–year period), writing in England, Germany, India, Canada, the United States, and Mexico. Not all of these began the 70 weeks and the 2300 years together, and a number of those who ended the 2300 years in the 1840s calculated other prophetic periods, such as the 1290 and 1335 years, beyond the 2300 years to such dates as 1877 and 1922. However, for the 2300 years, there was a great vogue for computing the period as ending in the 1840s, and most writers arrived at that dating by computing from the 70 weeks as ending in the time of Christ. from http://www.crcberm uda.com/bible/the- sanctuary/754-twen ty-three-hundred-d ay-prophecy which is apparently using the Seventh-day Adventist Encyclopaedia.  (Jan 4, 2014 | post #232)

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One Day = One Year

> It is based on 2 Bible verses From a file on my computer: One text: Genesis 29:27-28 Fulfil her week, and we will give thee this also for the service which thou shalt serve with me yet seven other years. And Jacob did so, and fulfilled her week: and he gave him Rachel his daughter to wife also. A day in a week is a symbol for a year. Note also that the day for a year principle doesn't have to apply ONLY to prophecy. Second text: Lev. 25:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye come into the land which I give you, then shall the land keep a sabbath unto the LORD. Here the weekly “sabbath” (day) is applied to a whole year. Note also that the day for a year principle doesn't have to apply ONLY to prophecy. Third text: Lev. 25:3-4 Six years thou shalt sow thy field, and six years thou shalt prune thy vineyard, and gather in the fruit thereof; But in the seventh year shall be a sabbath of rest unto the land, a sabbath for the LORD: thou shalt neither sow thy field, nor prune thy vineyard. This presents an interesting case. Here we see the day for a year principle at work without the word “day” ever being used. Note also that the day for a year principle doesn't have to apply ONLY to prophecy. Fourth text: Lev. 25:8 And thou shalt number seven sabbaths of years unto thee, seven times seven years; and the space of the seven sabbaths of years shall be unto thee forty and nine years. Now, we have “seven sabbaths of years” (49 years). Note also that the day for a year principle doesn't have to apply ONLY to prophecy. Fifth text: Num. 14:34 After the number of the days in which ye searched the land, even forty days, each day for a year, shall ye bear your iniquities, even forty years, and ye shall know my breach of promise. Note that here we have the “day for a year” principle explicitly stated. Note also that the day for a year principle doesn't have to apply ONLY to prophecy. Sixth text: Ezekiel 4:5-6 For I have laid upon thee the years of their iniquity, according to the number of the days, three hundred and ninety days: so shalt thou bear the iniquity of the house of Israel. And when thou hast accomplished them, lie again on thy right side, and thou shalt bear the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days: I have appointed thee each day for a year. Note that that the day-year principle is explicitly stated: “years ... according to the number of days” and “I have appointed each day for a year.” Seventh text: Dan. 9:24-7  Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. It is interesting to note that no one takes the 70 weeks as a literal number. > that does NOT establish a hermeneutical rule! Says who?  (Jan 4, 2014 | post #231)

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One Day = One Year

Nope; just pay attention to the textI don't need you to show it to me. I can read the text just fineJust aching to be spanked in this again, eh? You have a serious psychological problem. Oh well, here we go again: 657. Robinson, B. A. "Seventh-day Adventist Church Its origin, beliefs, practices, etc.," Retrieved and printed Nov. 17, 2010, from http://www.religio ustolerance.org/sd a2.htm. He concluded (without seeing the type of study recommended by Dr. Veltman*--he looked at this: http://dedication. www3.50megs.com/Da vid/) that I had already "demonstrate[ d] that there is no proof of Ellen White's plagiarism." * In fact, Dr. Veltman proved back in 1988 that EGW was NOT a plagiarist.  (Jan 4, 2014 | post #230)

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Dizzy worker stated Jesus was CORRUPT

Define "fallen nature."  (Jan 4, 2014 | post #12)

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+++ WHY ARE SABBATH HATERS ON a SDA FORUM +++

>no one in Genesis knew about it. You can't prove that. >That is why you do not see or read of any of the Patriarchs keeping the Sabbath. Who said that the Bible was required to say that they did?  (Jan 4, 2014 | post #166)

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+++ WHY ARE SABBATH HATERS ON a SDA FORUM +++

>So I do not see a command in these two scriptures...... That's your fault. You are being willfully and deliberately blind. For the rest, think it through: did God sanctify the day for Him?  (Jan 4, 2014 | post #165)

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Why did Pastor Doug RESIGN ?

"john" a new screen name for BS!  (Jan 4, 2014 | post #558)

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Why is it so hard to rescue SDA Cult Members?

Prove it.  (Jan 4, 2014 | post #2682)

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AMAZING FACTS by LUKE

Thought to be (as a metaphor). "Danno" made the opposite claim--the burden of proof lies with him.  (Jan 4, 2014 | post #89)

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