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Are black people really the real jews?

The birthright that Esau sold was the INHERITANCE of his dad's possessions. Just like today when the first born son has the right to the family fortunes, Esau had the right to the land, livestock, and wealth because he was the first born. The Most High could care less about Esau giving up his birthright!....He was only concerned with His chosen that would spring forth from Jacob. Esau wasn't even really serious about selling anyway....he was just hungry as hell and agreed nonchalantly. When Isaac was on his deathbed Esau expected to be blessed with his inheritance of all of the possessions of the house of Isaac.....but Rebekah had other plans.....can we say that Rebekah plotted to deceive Isaac and her other son Esau?!? Still, the Most High chose Jacob before the twins were even born to be the progenitor of the chosen so the whole "birthright " issue is irrelevant.  (Sep 22, 2014 | post #269)

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Why do blacks claim to be the true Israelites? You're not

I didn't assume a thing....and I wasn't upset in my last post....I made a point about U saying what doesn't make sense in the NT and I mentioned some things in the Tanakh that also doesn't make sense and I asked if U believe those so hopefully U can see that it is error to dismiss one thing and keep the other....especially when they consist of the very same substances.  (Sep 19, 2014 | post #6467)

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Why do blacks claim to be the true Israelites? You're not

Hey, U believe in the words of the Tanakh, don't U? What doesn't make sense is that Adam was put into a deep sleep and the Most High dug inside of him, broke off a rib bone, and formed the whole woman from that bone. U believe THAT!!.....so why does it NOT make SENSE regarding Joseph's seed being placed in Mary? I'm not saying that I believe that is how Miriam (Mary) was impregnated.....I pointed out your frivolous argument about events in the NT that are same kind of far-fetched events that the OT mentions. Do U believe that a human can live inside of a whale for days without being digested? Do U believe that the angels of the Most High had sex with humans and created Nephilim? Do U believe that Lot's wife literally tranformed into a real salt pillar? If U believe in the Tanakh then U should be devoted to its teachings and mentions. So U would have to believe each one of these stories within the Tanakh. So U can't say a damn thing about any event in the NT that defies the laws of physics and biology.  (Sep 19, 2014 | post #6442)

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Are black people really the real jews?

Uncle Tom?....U must have never read the book?....because if U had, U would have found out that Uncle Tom wasn't the bad guy!....it is actually a COMPLIMENT to be referred to as dear ole Uncle Tom.....READ THE BOOK before U call someone else an UNCLE TOM so U can get an understanding who he was, Bub. The spirit that came out of your post is NOT of Israel!...this is why WE are still lost!....WE are not willing to grow in OUR understanding....i t is NOT about a 1-up on OUR fellow brethren, it is about a STEP-UP towards OUR understanding of the Most High's word ALONG with OUR brethren. "Humble thyself in ALL knowledge and wisdom"  (Sep 18, 2014 | post #253)

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Are black people really the real jews?

Right off the bat I see that your comprehensions skills are IMPAIRED. U didn't even read Song of Solomon starting at verse one, did U? She says that she is "black but comely" and after that she explains why she is "black" by saying that she was kept out in the vineyards all day in the heat of the sun. She is telling [somebody] to not look upon her with disgust because she is "black". But anyway, Song of Solomon 1:1-5 isNOT Solomon saying that he is black......this is a woman speaking! Another part of Scripture says that Judah mourneth and that they are "black" unto the ground....WHAT THE HELL DOES THEIR SKIN HAVE TO DO WITH THEIR MOURNING!! Being "black unto the ground" has nothing to do with a description of their skin color in the context of THAT Scripture.....so that is probably why U threw your lil' temper tantrum in your post....because U've probably been believing it all this time and U never looked at the scriptures to really get an understanding of what was being talked about when someone was said to be "black". Scriptures dealt with TRIBES and not skin color. The Most High doesn't hate Esau just because he's white (RED), He hates him because he is wicked, and he just so happen to be of THAT complexion...and not one time did the Most High ever say "and their shall be suffering amongst the black people"! Like I said, "black" in the context of these examples in Scripture talked about a mental, physical, or social condition..... .....calm down for a sec, take a deep breath, humble yourself, and go back and reread those verses about "black". ......and remember, like any GOOD researcher, start a couple of verses BEFORE and also read a couple of verses AFTER and that way U could get the FULL understanding instead of just going by what U hear from others. Then U won't make a fool of yourself again with your words without knowledge!  (Sep 17, 2014 | post #252)

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Are black people really the real jews?

Song of Solomon 1:5......this was NOT Solomon speaking but was one of his wives or concubines speaking. And the word "black" was NOT in that time referred to a color of a nation of peoples but the word was used to describe a social condition.....like "black unto the ground", meaning that they are facing strife and that they are at their lowest. It's the very same thing when Scripture mentions, "I am black"....it is a mental, physical, or social condition that is being spoken about. If we research the etymology of the word "black", we would see that when we get to the meaning in Greek and Hebrew it means "bad" or either "scorched " (resembling the color of something burned), not the color of someone's skin as to describe a person as being "black"- skinned. But still tho' besides that misconception by many of US, the FACT still stands that Judah and the rest of Jacob were melaninated peoples because Scripture says it anyway with Moses' hand becoming leprous and then turning back and also a few other places......but WE don't need to twist up Scripture to make the heathens understand that the peoples of the Holy Book are melaninated.  (Sep 16, 2014 | post #250)

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Why do blacks claim to be the true Israelites? You're not

I am stressing it because U keep thinking that it was ALL of the tribes that were in the Holy Land when the Ottomans conquered it. I was pointing to the Babylonian captivity because it was when the other ten tribes went elsewhere. U keep calling the "ten tribes " thing a myth but I am bringing U full-on FACTS from Scripture and it is also backed by historically written records. It is saying it right in Scripture....JUDAH (Jews) came back after Babylonia. That is why I pressed the issue....because U really didn't have that understanding of the situation and I was helping to clear it up! It was the tribe of JUDAH that were in west Africa (in Timbuktu and other parts) and they were sold to Edomites and Ishmaelites by the hands of Hamites. Me personally, I really don't know, just like everyone else, where the other tribes are or even who they be!.....they don't even know who they be!.....they are TRULY lost! So now I hope U have the understanding about WHY these tribes are LOST! It is not a myth, Carly.  (Sep 16, 2014 | post #6329)

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Why do blacks claim to be the true Israelites? You're not

http://en.m.wikipe dia.org/wiki/Babyl onian_captivity Carly, OUR captivity in Babylonia is NOT a made up story about OUR peoples' history......and if U want to hear some words from the holy prophets of the Most High about that, then let's turn to the Book of Jeremiah 29 and let's begin at the first verse until we get to the last verse of the chapter.....ooooh, wait!!!.....Jeremi ah is in the Tanakh!!!....waaaa it a minute!....so if the Tanakh mentions it.....and if Wikipedia corroborates it....then it HAS to be a fact that Judah came back to the Holy Land while the other tribes went "lost"as they took on the heritages of their captives...... ......just like Judites here in America did after OUR captivity.....we became Christians and idol worshippers and went "lost".. ...."lost " to this world but the Most High knows where WE are and also our captives....they know who WE be....the Vatican AND the Library of Congress have the proofs.  (Sep 15, 2014 | post #6302)

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Why do blacks claim to be the true Israelites? You're not

The Edomite image of Jesus is worshipped by anyone that worships Jesus as god and it is the image that they worship......all of this was mentioned in Revelation. The Edomite IS the beast and out of that nation of peoples shall arise an anti-christ.... they shall conquer, devour, and deceive the world into worshipping the image (white Jesus) of the beast (Edomite).  (Sep 15, 2014 | post #6299)

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Why do blacks claim to be the true Israelites? You're not

Listen, no one but Christian and Catholics and their denominations worship Christ.....any Hebrew Israelite such as yourself should ACKNOWLEDGE him and understand that his message came from the Most High just the same as any other prophet throughout the Tanakh. The Most High promised Jacob the salvation and it came through Judah, who's seedline produced Jesus. The Most High is fulfilling His promise and U SPIT ON IT!! U acknowledge Noah, Abraham, Moses, Joshua, Samuel, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Job, and the other prophets of the Most High but when it comes to Jesus......U stop right there and curse him just as the Pharisees did, even though he speaks of the VERY SAME THING as was written by the prophets.....he acknowledges ALL of the prophets because he understood that these were holy men. He said that many would deny him! He wasn't lying because look at U. Like I said, WE do NOT worship the Messiah as OUR god. WE acknowledge the power vested in him BY the Most High to judge US according to OUR works.....and WE are NOT trying to make U worship him.....so stop assuming that!  (Sep 15, 2014 | post #6298)

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Why do blacks claim to be the true Israelites? You're not

Carly, U don't even understand the meaning of "lost", let alone trying to dismiss anything "lost". The tribes are "lost" because THEY DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE!!! Nobody know who they are!!.....how many people have U come across in your lifetime that U know can name the 12 tribes and can point them out in this world?...most people don't even know who Jacob was! Listen, the Babylonian captivity of US is IN THE TANAKH!! The other ten tribes' dispersion is IN THE TANAKH!! Why are U keep talking about that the tribes being "lost" is made up!! IT IS IN THE TANKH, THE VERY BOOK THAT U HOLD UP!!  (Sep 15, 2014 | post #6297)

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Why do blacks claim to be the true Israelites? You're not

Of course throughout the Tanakh the Most High speaks to His people, gives US a hand at times, and sends US prophets to set US on the straight and narrow when WE began to stray....of course He did these things and they are recorded in the Tanakh....U should agree to THAT, right?.... ......so do U think that the Most High just STOPPED dealing with ISRAELITES?....do U think that He don't fool with US anymore?....even unto this day, do U feel that the covenant with Jacob is broken? U don't give OUR Father much credit, do U?  (Sep 15, 2014 | post #6296)

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Why do blacks claim to be the true Israelites? You're not

U love to duck and dodge.....and what does the spelling have to do with it?,..i.e., potatoe and potato....color and colour....favorite and favourite....it is still the very same thing.....and anyway I have the KJV on my phone containing the Apochrypha. I am not claiming that it is 1611 but it is the closest to it if U wanna say it because it doesn't say whay yours say!  (Sep 15, 2014 | post #6294)

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Why do blacks claim to be the true Israelites? You're not

DeAngelo of Memphis wrote: <quoted text> Okay, the child's name means "God with us".....so who was this child in ScriptureCarly, I asked a question^^^about the child....are U able to answer it?  (Sep 15, 2014 | post #6293)

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Why do blacks claim to be the true Israelites? You're not

All 12 tribes were NOT in west Africa.....the Judites came back to the Holy Land after Babylonia released the Israelites of their captivity....every one else settled around where they were or went west towards Morocco and Spain or east into the Indus Valley. Just like modern times....when WE were released from OUR captivity WE didn't know anything....WE didn't know that WE were Judah. WE didn't go back to OUR homeland but settled here in the land of OUR captivity. Some of US went north to New York and Minnesota, some went west to Texas and Cali, and a few actually searched for their identity and went to Africa to see where their heritages began..... ......same thing happened after Babylonia.  (Sep 14, 2014 | post #6266)

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