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Taxpayer benefit? | The Columbus Dispatch

I would not just assume that the money will simply divert to salary. To say that it should in order to "be fair" is ludicrous. Why can't anyone accept the fact that government is broke? It is not a matter of being fair - it is a matter of money doesn't grow on trees and we can't simply raise the city income tax another .5% or keep passing school levies every 2 years. As far as it being "only" 1% of the budgets, that is a start. There will me more to follow, but simply because it is "only" 1% is no reason to not do it.  (Mar 6, 2011 | post #14)

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Kasich: You strike, you get punished

I'm sure the flight from Grove city had nothing to do with canceling all high school sports a couple years ago in order to continue to give raises to staff and continue to pay 100% of single health coverage? Sure, I'll buy that. And I'm sure that every employee is getting some subsidized health insurance from their employer. If that were the case, why Obamacare? School budgets keep going up and up and 90% of that is compensation. Levies are simply not going to continue to pass. Where do you suggest the money is going to come from? I don't particularly care how hard any teacher works - there is NO MONEY.  (Mar 5, 2011 | post #1918)

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Kasich: You strike, you get punished

I have absolutely zero interest in becoming a teacher. People keep posting that and I wonder "What is your point?" I'm not allowed to be concerned with the taxes I have to pay to support the unsustainable compensation trends unless I become a teacher? I make more than any teacher in the state already - doesn't mean I have to give it to them, and there are many making far less than either of us, and they should not have to give it to them either. No one seems to get that this is a financial issue - Econ 101. School levies require ME to pay more money every 2-3 years strictly so educators can have raises every year. Sorry - they are done getting my vote until the economy comes around. The 6% annual increases I have been paying for in Hilliard for the last 3 out of 4 years has me tapped out in that regard.  (Mar 5, 2011 | post #1916)

DispatchPolitics

Kasich: You strike, you get punished

So you have any data that shows COTA drivers to be unsafe? I can't remember the last time I heard of a COTA bus accident caused by one of it's drivers. Bet you can't either. Plus, they HAVE to have that license before they can start carrying passengers. Your point?  (Mar 3, 2011 | post #1892)

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Coroner rules homicide in officer's death | The Columbus ...

So you gong to educate us or is your rant over.  (Mar 3, 2011 | post #38)

DispatchPolitics

Groveport Madison, teachers have pact for now

Wrong. The local board currently holds ALL of the power. How could they possibly get MORE than ALL? And agreed with the previous poster regarding the boards - they are mostly union backed and supporters of the unions, even though they are supposed to represent the taxpayers. Unions hold the threat of a strike over their heads and they fold like pup tents. SB5 will at least guarantee that the 4% health premiums GM teachers are now paying won't be lasting for long, even if the bill did water it down to 15% from it's original 20%. Any private sector workers getting an 85% pickup on their premiums? Post away....  (Mar 2, 2011 | post #15)

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Senate Bill 5 saves $1.3B, study says | The Columbus Disp...

Thank you. I am in the same boat. I pay my employees single coverage too and face the same hikes. But remember, "we' are all rich so we can afford it. Everyone needs to look at the realities but most don't.  (Feb 28, 2011 | post #866)

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Groveport Madison teachers get raise in new pact | The Co...

That 4% figure is 4% of the premiums, not of pay. Still, see my above post. I DON'T hate teachers and I DON"'T think the playing field is equal. Which is not good "for the kids".  (Feb 28, 2011 | post #69)

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Groveport Madison teachers get raise in new pact | The Co...

Perfectly valid points. Private schools "test out" better because their parents are much more involved. I'll admit the same thing in my public district - college educated parents, usually two of them in the home, if not both college educated. It would be to your benefit to encourage merit based pay by judging you on your school, or your district - but that would involve getting the admins involved and they don't do their jobs either. There is no quick answer, but meanwhile the system is both broken and broke. I pitch a fit because the teachers in MY district average $68k a year, and they have it easy compared to Columbus Public, and some of the other districts. I'll be campaigning against the levy here because of that. Meanwhile, change the system - if you are a teacher OR a parent, it is your own best interest. Raise hell, don't just post in here.  (Feb 28, 2011 | post #68)

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Groveport Madison teachers get raise in new pact | The Co...

Thanks (I think) I was being a bit sarcastic but I do make an effort to be fair with the facts. Folks like you apparently know my opinions on these things but the crux of it is that I fully respect what teachers do, I could never do it myself, but that doesn't mean my wallet is wide open. 4% of health care premiums is not going to cut it - and it leaves the district open to the future increases - except it appear that is one part of SB5 that might stand firm - they will end up paying 20% which I would call fair. Now, I'll await getting hammered for that opinion from both sides.....lol  (Feb 28, 2011 | post #57)

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Senate Bill 5 saves $1.3B, study says | The Columbus Disp...

Thank you! Another point - no one ever defines "rich" when they argue that crap about the "rich" should pay more. 10% already pay over 60% of income taxes, and 20% or more get the EIC - welfare plain and simple. Yet those 10% should pay more because they are lucky? NO - those 10% worked their tails off and made something of themselves. So those who thing the "rich" should pay more - define "rich" or shut up please. And those 10% spend their money, paying sales taxes, putting others to work, etc etc. How many of those 20% or more of the EIC folks have ever given someone a job? It is class envy, plain and simple.  (Feb 28, 2011 | post #864)

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Senate Bill 5 saves $1.3B, study says | The Columbus Disp...

Taxes take money out of the pocket of everyone to pay for a few. I'm a small business owner too, and I don't get your logic. The money that comes out of the pocket of a government employee is money that you/your employees do not have to pay. A bit simplistic since the government has a way of peeing away any money saved and spending it elsewhere but two wrongs don't make a right. I'm a Libertarian by principal - less government is good for everyone other than government employment. Privatize everything you can and let the private sector take over whatever it can - that allows competition to rule as it does with our businesses. Leave police and fire alone - nothing else should be off the table.  (Feb 28, 2011 | post #863)

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Senate Bill 5 saves $1.3B, study says | The Columbus Disp...

Did you miss something? We DO have elections, that's how JK got into office. And that's how Stricken got tossed out. There will be another chance in just under 4 years - rally your friends. Oh, and exactly what is a "regular state worker" anyway? The ones who cannot be voted out of a job. I guess.  (Feb 26, 2011 | post #689)

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Senate Bill 5 saves $1.3B, study says | The Columbus Disp...

You don't pay taxes on your benefits. But the taxpayers pay taxes to give them to you. Nice try though...  (Feb 26, 2011 | post #673)

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Senate Bill 5 saves $1.3B, study says | The Columbus Disp...

Same with any union employee. Seems not enough of the 400,000 public employees in Ohio bothered to vote that day or JK would not have won.  (Feb 26, 2011 | post #580)