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West Plains, MO

Suicide in the County Jail...Daniel Norton?

you can't use scare tactics to correct a person , one of the main reason why the system doesn't work  (Jun 30, 2014 | post #13)

West Plains, MO

Still believe Abortion isn't murder?

Tim...I think you are addicted to the judging comments option...just saying  (Feb 11, 2014 | post #287)

West Plains, MO

Still believe Abortion isn't murder?

*on anyone Timmy  (Feb 5, 2014 | post #263)

West Plains, MO

Still believe Abortion isn't murder?

I am not forcing religion on anymore Timmy. We've gone over this again and again... I can keep my "beliefs " separate from what I think should be legal, because it is not my right to force my beliefs on anyone. You keep quoting things from Biblical sources Tim, not me. And clearly you are upset by whatever I have said before, considering you yet again stoop to name calling (pathetic*) ...again....are we five?! "My" beliefs are not what abortion should be ban for most all cases...those are...yet again..."my " beliefs...it should be ban because of the overall effects it has on the person, the fetus, and us as a nation...but okay Timmy... ok... keep name calling, throwing up facts (btw... Timmy... how many real medical doctors have you seen involving all your pregnancies and abortion, or facts on birth control for woman, any? you are a man...you realize this right...get off google...you are not a doctor, let doctors be...doctors...you are a man right?!!!)....Keep on name calling and taking words of mine out of context... or putting me on a side that I am not on... because I think both sides are not the right way...yet again timmy....are you that weak timmy?!(you said it first...wow).... that's why I say it should only be for a medical reason... and yet again I will say timmy... we will not agree... if you wanna be prochoice timmy... keep your words out of it... lol...you are a man...you don't get a choice... :) ....that's how that works...  (Feb 5, 2014 | post #262)

West Plains, MO

Still believe Abortion isn't murder?

Lol k Tim....  (Feb 2, 2014 | post #243)

West Plains, MO

Still believe Abortion isn't murder?

I know what my post said...and I dunno where you get your facts...but a healthy and safe term pregnancy is safer... that is why I say medical reasons only should be permitted incase the pregnancy is unsafe to all.. as a matter of fact... the day after pill increases death risks...let alone abortion itself...for a "safe" surgery... it isn't very safe over all... and the long term effects are damaging...mentall y and physically in more ways they are finding out often... you know the long term effects of a healthy pregnancy and delivery ...stretchmark ...back pain... things that normally occur with age also...not to mention...breastfe eding etc reduces a womens risk of breast cancer etc... abortions and pill increase the risk of cancers in women... we are meant to reproduce... as for a rise in complication ...birth defects... etc... are from all these things you are part of supporting... it is not a fact that abortion is safer... but believe what you would like... sad really...  (Feb 1, 2014 | post #241)

West Plains, MO

Still believe Abortion isn't murder?

Snore.... just because I do not pick a law and support it based on a side... does not make me ignorant... etc... an abortion is unhealthy and still can even lead to death, and damages.. said again and again we will never agree... but I will never "pick a side" because I think one side is "more" right than another personally... because neither are working... NEITHER are working... and your "rights" you want physically hurt the mother too... do some research yourself... money should be going on a sex education ...not avoidance of a major issue (WE WILL NEVER AGREE) ...k  (Jan 31, 2014 | post #238)

West Plains, MO

Still believe Abortion isn't murder?

Oh...and prochoice was the one that gave parents at one point the right to force their minor to abort.... prolife...is AGAINIST abortions... btw  (Jan 30, 2014 | post #236)

West Plains, MO

Still believe Abortion isn't murder?

You spend way to much time on Google and other search sites my friend...and perhaps believe most all you read. What makes a person blind is their inability to think beyond their self...and you seem way to hung up on your personal beliefs. I have voiced time and time again...my "beliefs " vary from what I think should be a law. Just because I believe something does not give me the right to make it a law...it should not be a law to force someone who might die to give birth if no one lives...and it should not be a law to allow someone to decide what is and I not a life. I have stated time and time again Tim, personally, I am not for abortions.. this is no secret... but my view would of made it a medical situation ... not a moral or personal one...just because I do not agree with something does not mean I you should have to and I shouldn't have to find your way right. But medicine is a science...and if big business would get their hands outta it...my way would only be for the best of ALL people involved to live...this includes mother and fetus... sorry...but no emotions on if she can handle it mentally... or if it is a life or not... science has shown what causes babies... and it has shown abortion that is not needed is damaging...and if you want to keep crying...who will feed...clothe ....etc...all these ppl... complain about spending on wars...or something that is way more out of control then what is being spent on this...human minds are weak...this is social acceptance of murder... and it also grows to more acceptance of unprotected sex...because well...you can just kill it ... I am not really for birth control "personally " ...however... it is more humane and logical...and effective to focus more of this than abortions...or day after pills...etc... You keep saying I am promoting prochoice... but that is not at all what I said...YET AGAIN... just because personally I think it should be that way...does not make it right... but when it is damaging even to the person receiving an abortion by odds more than a safe term pregnancy... gonna call...crap on this idea... it is harmful... and it should really be for the best of all...and this is not... medical should not be a business... and it should only be allowed for medical reasons... and I also said we don't agree... we don't agree... and shame on me nothing... if it was the way I have said... they would of pulled the plug WEEKS AGO (there wouldn't of been a fight/ debate... that has been caused by prolife/v.s./proch oice)  (Jan 30, 2014 | post #235)

West Plains, MO

Still believe Abortion isn't murder?

She wasn't 20 weeks pregnant when she went into a coma.... she was only 14weeks... and without her body's support ...that baby had no real chance of developing properly from 14weeks to term... actual term is 40weeks... but generally a baby is considered in the safe ranger after approx. 37.5-38 weeks without worry of major birth defeats caused simply by not being fully developed... doctors putting her on life support and keeping her there for as long as they did after knowing the chance of her survival... was only damaging to her and the fetus... now had she been 32-34 weeks...I'd give you they should of been allowed a time period to not only save her and the baby...but the survival rate on either of them at that point... sadly was so low...medically try should of been allowed to pull the plug  (Jan 29, 2014 | post #233)

West Plains, MO

Still believe Abortion isn't murder?

Those same laws that allowed a woman's right to choose... also gave rights to parents of minors in certain states to force their daughters to get abortions medically.... the laws are flawed... drastically... and both are bias ...I am sorry I think the conversely drama just needs to stop... and it be for safety and medical reasons only... because honestly science has proven an abortion does not overall benefit the mother...which is what prochoice likes you to believe... because it does cause damage in many ways... "personally " I think abortion is wrong... but that is my personal opinion... just like you are prochoice... and that is your personal opinion... that's the problem... neither side is right... neither side is unbias ... and what I keep stating has everyones interest in mind... not just my personal opinion... because personally... I do think abortion is wrong...and personally I think it is a sin... but it is not up to me to say someone must die trying to carry a baby when they can not...and it is not up to me to say abort a life because well I don't think it is one... both are unfair ... sorry but that's really how it seems... and abortion is damaging to a woman... they really should stop pouring money into that area of it...and more on prevention and education on the entire matter... (yes I understand the medical field is a big business...but that is wrong too...but did you ever stop and wonder ...since they are supporting abortion matters...it is to profit...when they know their are better solutions... honestly...science has proven weed to be a better solution to a lot of pain medication etc...but they don't bank...abortions are worse than you think...for the person having them) ...clearly we will never agree however it seems... but good news...they did let the woman rest this past Sunday... she is gone sadly...but no longer forced to go on  (Jan 29, 2014 | post #232)

West Plains, MO

Still believe Abortion isn't murder?

The reason I say in this case neither law would work...is because most people ...because she still did not get the last say like prochoice promised then...there is no way to plan for everyone personally...and in this case her family knew she rather be off...but what about cases where the next of kin doesn't know what the mother desired...and pulls the cord against perhaps her wishes... some people will argue ...she was dead she didn't care...some people argue it was wrong...and the fight will always rage on...that is the issue with the whole prolife prochoice debate... in this case...yes... prolife was wrong... because they were going against all of their wishes...even that fetus...simply because the child can not live at 14 weeks without the mother...the baby will suffer... by development ...and had continued... probably death anyway from the way it appeared... I do not think either way should be allowed because they are based on personal opinions...and they will always have arguments ...regardless...and medical would have issues too... but the bias would be less...the emotion would be less...and people forcing personal beliefs ...or even deciding major decisions on situations like that would not be up to someone who may only be considering themselves...etc... if you would like to go and sign papers like someone people do advising life support be kept or pulled personally on yourself....that is fine...but when you can no longer decide...there is no way to prove that is what the person wanted either...which seems unfair too... I really think both sides are incorrect ...even though I believe abortion is wrong...those are my feelings...science has proven though it is better for a woman to carry to term physically than unneeded abortions...that is best for her and baby... to survive... now in certain cases...no one wins...and regardless religious beliefs... God gave us the knowledge of things...the ability to learn...etc... and I think medically it is best to save at least one...you can't ban it 100% either...that is unfair...inhuman...and antilife...but prochoice does not generally allow an opinion on another involving that baby...and if a woman let a man have sex with her willingly...I think he is indeed entitled to a say as well as long as it is safe for everyone to live...the right at life...they are both flawed and I think medical would end the fight along with several other things too...4168...but yes...this time the laws for prolife were wrong...however prochoice I fell to believe is better  (Jan 27, 2014 | post #228)

West Plains, MO

Still believe Abortion isn't murder?

You prochoice laws would mess junk up too because she would be left to decide that point and couldn't, both prolife and prochoice aren't working...and because of it...people are suffering...that woman...that baby...and their family...they are not working and it's because of everyone forcing their emotions into others situations legally... this is not right  (Jan 26, 2014 | post #225)

West Plains, MO

Still believe Abortion isn't murder?

K ...I am not wrong on this one...because your PROCHOICE laws...ONLY leave that WOMAN who is in a COMA with the say! She is in a COMA...she isn't saying anything on the matter! Most people don't plan to die pregnant...or plan to fall into a coma and be left to make the decision to abort while in a coma.!!! You might think I am dumb, clearly...but tell me...how does she get the right to decide when she's in a COMA! There are not laws allowing the family to have a voice...because of your love for prochoice and it being her body only...that is why prolife and prochoice DO NOT WORK ...medical is a safer, scientific, non bias way.... but you get back to me when you explain to me how you can say...oh...it is her right to pick...except well when she can't then it's others...etc...you going make a personal rule book for EVERY situation that may occur in the world?! Leave your feelings out of it... people are suffering because everyone thinks he or she is right...science does not favor someone based on a feeling, emotion, or personal opinion.... and you can't expect a woman in a coma to have a voice...nor can you than magically change your mind and say...ok....cancel that law...and now alone other people to have a choice...that's not prochoice... but yep...I'm wrong ?!  (Jan 26, 2014 | post #224)