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New Roads, LA

Obama stops soldier from speaking

The soldier was following existing military policy. The President had nothing to do with it. Perhaps the President could have ordered that the soldier speak even though the subject and procedure was against policy, but the President did not break the rules in this case  (Apr 10, 2012 | post #18)

New Roads, LA

Obama stops soldier from speaking

http://www.snopes. com/politics/relig ion/faithbased.asp People are for or against a topic because of previous beliefs. It has nothing to do with the truth. In this case too many laws regulating too many parts of the lives of Americans is the problem, not the President. But I am sure the President is responsible for some bad things as well, just not in this case.  (Apr 9, 2012 | post #14)

Immigration Reform

Prize-winning illegal immigrant draws crowd at Worcester ...

You say they "don't get to decide". Hah. As many as 8% of the entire population of the US unilaterally decided they could, and you can't do anything about it. Neither can I. Ind official US immigration policy is to deliberately not do anything about it. You assume I am "assuming [they] should have an easier time...". No, I am clearly saying what we have is impossible to deal with. It will not be more or less impossible in the coming years, it will just remain impossible as it is now. The system is broken. I am fine with a broken system, and so, apparently, are you. But stop saying that ANYTHING that tries to fix the system is "amnesty " or somehow just wrong. Proposals to fix a broken system are not automatically wrong even if the broken system is immigration. Our system is broken, but it is fine by me if you like it the way it is, and fine by me if you don't like it. We aren't likely to see any change come out of this Congress anyway. In an election year no one wants to talk sense about fixing problems anyway. This is a year for politicians to make promises they will break. To use your phraseology your main error in thinking is that the US taxpayers have the will and the resources to pay to rid ourselves of the equivalent population of five or six or our less populated states. We won't, and fixing the problem is not necessarily "amnesty  (Apr 2, 2012 | post #136)

Immigration Reform

Prize-winning illegal immigrant draws crowd at Worcester ...

Visas are given to people for many reasons. People overstay those visas for many reasons. People exceed speed limits, build without permits, spit on sidewalks, yell at neighbors. Of those five illegal acts want to guess which one has no legal remedy? If you overstay a visa there is no penalty. but you are deportable. No one is looking to deport you, and only a federal agent can deport anyone. No one else can do it. Want to tell me how that makes sense? If you cross the US border "unexamined " in the middle of the night while no one is looking a law is broken and there is a fine of $50 - $250 dollars. But there is no one to receive the money, no one asks for the money, and if you pay the fine you have not solved any legal issue at all. You are still "deportable " but, you guessed it, no one is looking for you, no one who can will try to deport you. That is policy. Want to tell me how that makes sense. If you are brought to this country on the first day of your life, you go through schools here, college here, and now it is your 40th birthday you still have no path to legal residency. You may return to your "home" country and wait ten year then apply for a visa. Want to know the conditions one must meet for a residency visa? I didn't think so. And if your country is one that has lots of people entering the US illegally there are no residency visas given at all (only tourism and temporary work). If we talk to your crowd there is no reform needed. Things need to stay just as they are. 20 million people need to be deported. Any reform is "amnesty " even if it isn't amnesty. It is amnesty if they pay a fine, if they join the military, if they say they are sorry. Even if we reform to make the laws make sense it is amnesty. You prefer to just say "internationa l law" as if there was any jurisdiction of anyone outside the US over US immigration policy. Sorry, but it is our Republicans in Congress who are the problem. They prefer problems. Nothing will ever get done, because if they do anything that is amnesty. You think The Hague sets policy for anyone? Not at all. You are mistaken. I heard recently the US Congress had a hearing about whether or not the Iranian government was rational. That is our US Congress. Pots might as well hold a hearing about whether or not kettles are black. With your support nothing will ever get done about the immigration problem in the US. Thank you for your support  (Mar 31, 2012 | post #134)

Immigration Reform

Prize-winning illegal immigrant draws crowd at Worcester ...

What are you talking about? Repatriate children who have been through our school systems, and graduated college? Repatriate them when most of their family is here? International law? Argentina does not have any immigration. Anyone can go there to live. Most countries recognize the fact that people cross their borders and deal with them as they deal with the rest of their problems. The US is the only country that has an immigration problem of up to 10% of the total population. Why? Because our laws don't make any sense. You don't repatriate people who are citizens to another country. And if the family is here, you don't repatriate children to a different country. The point is, what we do doesn't make any sense. These children have not broken any law, but they are "deportable ". If you have ever had a speeding ticket, by the same token you are punishable by a fine AND imprisonment. That doesn't mean you WILL go to prison, just like being "deportable " does not mean you will be deported. Are we on the same page yet? Do you understand why "deportable " does not mean "illegal  (Mar 31, 2012 | post #132)

Immigration Reform

Prize-winning illegal immigrant draws crowd at Worcester ...

The "illegal " part still bothers me IP. You say "children " are "illegal " admitting they broke no laws. That is, in my mind, strange. Like saying a rock or a horse is illegal. In my mind, only someone who broke a law can be illegal. I can have an illegal rock or horse, or even an illegal child if that child did something illegal. But other than that I don't see it. Perhaps you can help me. Certainly the child is "deportable " according to existing law, but not "illegal ". Many on this forum are attempting to subvert the 14th Amendment to say that those born of illegal aliens in this country are "illegal " children, but that won't happen either. It could lead to illegal sex and forced sterilization to keep from breaking a law, which is a funny situation. I don't think we will be forcing anyone to wear armbands or tatoos anymore, do you? Thanks for answering my questions  (Mar 31, 2012 | post #129)

Immigration Reform

Prize-winning illegal immigrant draws crowd at Worcester ...

I didn't say they changed their immigration status. They are "unexamined " unless they overstayed their visas. In any case they are "deportable " having broken no laws, solo by virtue of the ground they are standing upon. I have no interest in keeping anything anyway. The shear numbers of people makes the situation impossible. It will not get more or less impossible, it will just remain impossible until Congress acts. Not much chance of that, however  (Mar 30, 2012 | post #128)

Immigration Reform

Prize-winning illegal immigrant draws crowd at Worcester ...

Born into sin, are they? Illegal by virtue of the country they are in. Having broken no laws at all, by where they stand they are illegal. That is your answer. I see. There are no laws to that effect, and no one but you says so, but that is your opinion. I am glad your opinion doesn't matter any more than my opinion. For that we are both lucky  (Mar 30, 2012 | post #126)

Immigration Reform

Prize-winning illegal immigrant draws crowd at Worcester ...

Is Jacob Howard on the Supreme Court? Or better question, will Jacob Howard be on the Supreme Court in the unlikely event they decide to re-examine the clear language that is the 14th Amendment? If he is not on the Supreme Court then his opinion doesn't matter any more than your opinion or my opinion  (Mar 30, 2012 | post #125)

Immigration Reform

Prize-winning illegal immigrant draws crowd at Worcester ...

It is wrong that people who have lived in the US for decades, graduated High Schools and Colleges here, have never seen or hardly remember their country of citizenship or their native language, have no path to cizenship in the only country they have ever known. It is wrong that Senator John McCain wrote the Dream Act, then voted against it just to be a problem for our government. It is wrong that people who fulfil all the requirements of citizenship in every way are forced into a cash, underground society that keeps them from working except for cash on a daily basis. That our society forces such behavior, and the stupid people on these forums do not know or care about the silly crap they spout about "illegal " this and that as if they know beyond a doube what is right and wrong. There is so much wrong with our immigration laws, and so many misconceptions about what they do and don't say, and so many people think a law is a law unless it applies to them.... Anyway, standing up for what you believe to a bunch of members of the evil empire who think people born in the US shouldn't be citizens unless they pass through a board hearing or something... Well standing up to people like that is easy. Now try standing up to the police or a bunch a lawyers when what is happening is not clear. Things can go badly for everyone very, very quickly  (Mar 30, 2012 | post #121)

Immigration Reform

Prize-winning illegal immigrant draws crowd at Worcester ...

How does a Citizen, born and bred in the US, not "submit to the laws of the United States  (Mar 30, 2012 | post #120)

Immigration Reform

Prize-winning illegal immigrant draws crowd at Worcester ...

Nobody stood up to say: "I WANT IT TO SAY WHAT IT PLAINLY SAYS"? Hmm, I wonder why. I think it always said and always meant that those born in the US are US citizens. What was it you think it says, again  (Mar 30, 2012 | post #119)

Immigration Reform

Prize-winning illegal immigrant draws crowd at Worcester ...

All the wrong? All the wrong or all the illegal? Because there is a lot of wrong that is legal, and a lot of legal that is wrong, and a lot of illegal that is definetly not wrong. I wouldn't turn anyone into the police for anything short of violence. Nothing. I don't know what your experience has been with the police, but I worked for the State, worked for hospitals, worked for large corporations, and I don't trust any of them. Lawyers and police are the worst. I haven't met a one I would want to trust with my fate, my family's fate. When the police and lawyers get involved there is not good can come of it. And don't get me started about politicians. God help us if Obama gets re-elected. And God help us if he doesn't. In any case, none of what we say matters at all  (Mar 29, 2012 | post #114)

Immigration Reform

Prize-winning illegal immigrant draws crowd at Worcester ...

Sorry, I overlooked the "intent of the authors" comment. What about the intent of the voters? What did the people who wanted the 14th Amendment, who voted for it, who were in favor of it, what did they want? Could it be the people who wanted the Amendment might have wanted to be citizens? To know the rules about who was and was not a citizen? That it is clear, according to the Amendment that those born in the US are citizens. That will not change, and no amount of discussion will change that. It will change when pigs fly, and that is when we should discuss it. Because only when pigs fly will anyone care what you and I believe about the 14th Amendment. Then, and now, the intent does not matter. It only matters what it says, what it means, and what makes sense in the context of the system of politics and justice in the United States of America. Those born in the US are US citizens. It is that simple, always has been, always will be  (Mar 29, 2012 | post #112)

Immigration Reform

Prize-winning illegal immigrant draws crowd at Worcester ...

Hahaha! Illegal birth? Next we will have illegal pregnancies and illegal sex! Maybe we can make immigration dependent upon sterilization! Hahaha, this is fun  (Mar 29, 2012 | post #111)