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Adding to my previous explanation: before Jesus died the holy ghost could not come; so Christians could not receive the gift of the holy ghost. The question remains if Christians could enter heaven without the holy ghost being within them. Remember the quote: your body is a temple? it means that the Holy Ghost lives within you and that your body thus is a home to the Holy Ghost. ------------------ ------------------ ------------------ ------------------ - - The Gospel is not the way you like to see it: it is the way it is. - Jesus taught those who follow him only to Preach what he taught them - for they can never Teach you. Calling The Unbeliever, Confronting The Lukewarm, Exposing The Hypocrite Do Not Follow Men, Nor Churches! Come to Christ, says God! http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/christian.html http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/baptism.html - Murder: the, by God, unauthorized killing of a creature. - Killing: the, by God, authorized putting to death of a creature. - Judging: In Christianity, the prohibited 'judging' is to execute a penalty upon another as retribution for their sins. - CO1 5: 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? - Protect the Children from Satan in the Churches: http://www.silentl ambs.org - LUK 21:15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.  (Oct 30, 2014 | post #66)

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Virgin Mary - Mother of god

Nobody knows what Mary looks like! The painter has created a beauty from his imagination - that's all. And to use the metaphor: 'mother of god' is silly! If Jesus is the son, referring to his being as 'like the father', then we understand that he has been granted the same authority as the father, in our eyes, though he is not the father and so Mary can never be his mother as well as the mother of God whom created him through the Holy Ghost. Catholics exaggerate on many points! ------------------ ------------------ ------------------ ------------------ - - The Gospel is not the way you like to see it: it is the way it is. - Jesus taught those who follow him only to Preach what he taught them - for they can never Teach you. Calling The Unbeliever, Confronting The Lukewarm, Exposing The Hypocrite Do Not Follow Men, Nor Churches! Come to Christ, says God! http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/christian.html http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/baptism.html - Murder: the, by God, unauthorized killing of a creature. - Killing: the, by God, authorized putting to death of a creature. - Judging: In Christianity, the prohibited 'judging' is to execute a penalty upon another as retribution for their sins. - CO1 5: 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? - Protect the Children from Satan in the Churches: http://www.silentl ambs.org - LUK 21:15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.  (Aug 25, 2014 | post #7)

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Rome is reuniting all the churches !!!

Absolute nonsense! the catholic church shall never unite the churches of Jesus, for these are united in Christ and can never unite with the whore of the revelations: the church that teaches people to pray to dead people they declared 'SAINTS' ( MEANING CHRISTIAN). Those who follow Jesus have allegiance to Christ alone and not with a bleeding harlot whose end is nearing. What is Catholic and what is Protestant?: http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/protestants-cath olics.html Jesus is only asking us to: a) believe what he is preaching - EVERYTHING! b) repent: set aside all that he condemns and embrace all he approves of and demands of you. c) baptise, to the remission of the sins you have committed up to that time. d) sin no more. Remember: all are with sin, none is without; therefore we are granted the grace of repentance and remission of sin through baptism, so that we may become holy and sin no more. ------------------ ------------------ ------------------ ------------------ - - The Gospel is not the way you like to see it: it is the way it is. - Jesus taught those who follow him only to Preach what he taught them - for they can never Teach you. Calling The Unbeliever, Confronting The Lukewarm, Exposing The Hypocrite Do Not Follow Men, Nor Churches! Come to Christ, says God! http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/christian.html http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/baptism.html - Murder: the, by God, unauthorized killing of a creature. - Killing: the, by God, authorized putting to death of a creature. - Judging: In Christianity, the prohibited 'judging' is to execute a penalty upon another as retribution for their sins. - CO1 5: 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? - Protect the Children from Satan in the Churches: http://www.silentl ambs.org - LUK 21:15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.  (Aug 24, 2014 | post #5)

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========== Was JESUS BORN PERFECT? ==========

No, he was not. For if he was, he wouldn't need to baptize! Only after he baptized and received the holy ghost he became perfect! Like it is with us. ------------------ ------------------ ------------------ ------------------ - - The Gospel is not the way you like to see it: it is the way it is. - Jesus taught those who follow him only to Preach what he taught them - for they can never Teach you. Calling The Unbeliever, Confronting The Lukewarm, Exposing The Hypocrite Do Not Follow Men, Nor Churches! Come to Christ, says God! http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/christian.html http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/baptism.html - Murder: the, by God, unauthorized killing of a creature. - Killing: the, by God, authorized putting to death of a creature. - Judging: In Christianity, the prohibited 'judging' is to execute a penalty upon another as retribution for their sins. - CO1 5: 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? - Protect the Children from Satan in the Churches: http://www.silentl ambs.org - LUK 21:15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.  (Aug 21, 2014 | post #29)

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The Real SANTA

And the catholic abomination of inducing abominable idolatry upon their followers here is unmistakably manifest in the following line: 'He became known as the protector of children and sailors and was associated with gift-giving.' Sin't Nicholas was a rich man who decided to do good, in the name of Christ. Because of this, the church back then just made him a bishop and started to cleave their none-senses unto him: their ridiculous figments, which they use to attract more fools into their church, earning them more money! Sint ( Christian) Nicholas, was nothing more than a Christian, doing what he must do like a Christian, having all that money: take care of the poor! What's a saint? http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/saints.html What's Catholics and Protestant? http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/protestants-cath olics.html  (Aug 17, 2014 | post #4)

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The Lords Prayer

Needs no explanation: when u pray, you forgive those who have done you wrong, as is written and quoted by Christ. We are all in danger of temptation and we all acknowledge that God is master of his kingdom, what he wants happens, and we always shall eat if we pray for food! The sun shall not smite thee by day, nor the moon by night: this without variation between believers or Christians! AMEN! Newest page: http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/your-body-a-temp le.html ------------------ ------------------ ------------------ ------------------ - - The Gospel is not the way you like to see it: it is the way it is. - Jesus taught those who follow him only to Preach what he taught them - for they can never Teach you. Calling The Unbeliever, Confronting The Lukewarm, Exposing The Hypocrite Do Not Follow Men, Nor Churches! Come to Christ, says God! http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/christian.html http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/baptism.html - Murder: the, by God, unauthorized killing of a creature. - Killing: the, by God, authorized putting to death of a creature. - Judging: In Christianity, the prohibited 'judging' is to execute a penalty upon another as retribution for their sins. - CO1 5: 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? - Protect the Children from Satan in the Churches: http://www.silentl ambs.org - LUK 21:15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.  (Jul 31, 2014 | post #7)

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Islam vs Christian heaven

The moslims have no haven: for they do not believe Jesus is the son of God and they do not follow him. For the rest, mocking may be a form of recreation to your taste, but this a Christian forum: understood? ------------------ ------------------ ------------------ ------------------ - - The Gospel is not the way you like to see it: it is the way it is. - Jesus taught those who follow him only to Preach what he taught them - for they can never Teach you. Calling The Unbeliever, Confronting The Lukewarm, Exposing The Hypocrite Do Not Follow Men, Nor Churches! Come to Christ, says God! http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/christian.html http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/baptism.html - Murder: the, by God, unauthorized killing of a creature. - Killing: the, by God, authorized putting to death of a creature. - Judging: In Christianity, the prohibited 'judging' is to execute a penalty upon another as retribution for their sins. - CO1 5: 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? - Protect the Children from Satan in the Churches: http://www.silentl ambs.org - LUK 21:15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.  (Jul 23, 2014 | post #5)

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How can a true christian endure cruel mockings?

Pray to your God and keep quoting them rom the Gospel! I bet they claim to be Christian also! ------------------ ------------------ ------------------ ------------------ - - The Gospel is not the way you like to see it: it is the way it is. - Jesus taught those who follow him only to Preach what he taught them - for they can never Teach you. Calling The Unbeliever, Confronting The Lukewarm, Exposing The Hypocrite Do Not Follow Men, Nor Churches! Come to Christ, says God! http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/christian.html http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/baptism.html - Murder: the, by God, unauthorized killing of a creature. - Killing: the, by God, authorized putting to death of a creature. - Judging: In Christianity, the prohibited 'judging' is to execute a penalty upon another as retribution for their sins. - CO1 5: 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? - Protect the Children from Satan in the Churches: http://www.silentl ambs.org - LUK 21:15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.  (Jul 17, 2014 | post #13)

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If Jesus said few would find the "road that leads to life...

A) Yes, but you must read the Gospel to Understand that most of the people who claim te be christians are nothing of the kind. When you have time, read my page 'WHEN YOU ARE A CHRISTIAN' http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/christian.html B) I dont't call any brother 'FOOL', for a brother understands and accepts the Gospel as well as I do. And, would I be motivated to call my fleshly brother a fool, then I will go with my understanding of the quote: namely, that it refes to calling you brother afool without a cause. For it makesno sense that I can't call a fool a fool, while Jesus does do that, and we must follow him. In the end, a fool is a fool, and even the O.T. proverbs tells us to answer them. MAT 5: 22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. ( in this context he refers to ones fleshly brother or a fellow christian, and all three examples refer to doing so 'without a cause'. Why? Because he himself is calling people fools, but not the Christians. Search the word 'fool' in the gospel and read all instances. http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/cgi-bin/bible.pl MAT 7: 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? ( here Jesus speaks about either spritual or fleshly brother.) CO1 5: 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. ( in this context Paul (whom Jesus has sent to us, telling us to believe him) denotes the brother in spirit: the christian.) 2nd example: CO2 12: 18 I desired Titus, and with him I sent a brother. Did Titus make a gain of you? walked we not in the same spirit? walked we not in the same steps? 3rd example: COL 4: 7 All my state shall Tychicus declare unto you, who is a beloved brother, and a faithful minister and fellow servant in the Lord: 4th example: REV 1: 9 I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. 5th and final example: MAR 3: 35 For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother. ( here Jesus confirms my understanding of the quote very clearly, indeed.) Read the main site with all explanations: http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m  (Jul 14, 2014 | post #85)

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Too much Judgment

JUDGING MAT 7: 1 Judge not, that ye be not judged. MAT 7: 2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. LUK 6: 37 Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: JOH 7: 24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment. JOH 8: 15 Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man. JOH 8: 16 And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me. CO1 11: 31 For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. JAM 5: 9 Grudge not one against another, brethren, lest ye be condemned: behold, the judge standeth before the door. ( a brother, in this context, is a fellow christian: and they are one in spririt). ROM 14: 13 Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way. JOH 12: 47 And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. ( when he comes agian, then he comes to judge! ) JOH 12: 48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. COL 2: 16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: ACT 4: 19 But Peter and John answered and said unto them, Whether it be right in the sight of God to hearken unto you more than unto God, judge ye. ACT 13: 46 Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles. ABOUT THE TIME AFTER HIS SECOND COMING, WHEN CHRISTIANS ARE RESIDENTS OF HEAVEN CO1 5: 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? CO1 6: 2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? CO1 6: 3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? PE1 4: 5 Who shall give account to him that is ready to judge the quick and the dead. REV 6: 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? REV 19: 11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m  (Jul 13, 2014 | post #2)

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If Jesus said few would find the "road that leads to life...

Jesus is talking about one religion only: the one he calls the Jews to follow, then. as the Jews mostly rejected it, he gave it to the gentiles also and predicted that they shall wear the crown of it. Jesus condemns Islam and its practices, for he says you must believe him alone and follow him alone, and that nobody comes to god, save through him: AMEN. JOH 10: 9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture. JOH 14: 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. ------------------ ------------------ ------------------ ------------------ - - The Gospel is not the way you like to see it: it is the way it is. - Jesus taught those who follow him only to Preach what he taught them - for they can never Teach you. Calling The Unbeliever, Confronting The Lukewarm, Exposing The Hypocrite Do Not Follow Men, Nor Churches! Come to Christ, says God! http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/christian.html http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/baptism.html - Murder: the, by God, unauthorized killing of a creature. - Killing: the, by God, authorized putting to death of a creature. - Judging: In Christianity, the prohibited 'judging' is to execute a penalty upon another as retribution for their sins. - CO1 5: 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? - Protect the Children from Satan in the Churches: http://www.silentl ambs.org - LUK 21:15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.  (Jul 13, 2014 | post #43)

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If Jesus said few would find the "road that leads to life...

a) all Christians are in the right: they are one in spirit and follow the gospel. b) Jesus: MAT 22: 14 For many are called, but few are chosen: http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/cgi-bin/bible.pl ?&action=View &Choice=40 &chapter=22 &display=25 &begin=14& end=25&csearch =few are chosen If there are two billions proclaimed Christians, then about 2% is actually Christian. About fool calling: you are not a brother through baptism, having become a Christian and thus a brother, and you are not my fleshly brother: so I can call you a fool, if it is justified. But I have not yet, right: so no sweat! ------------------ ---- PROOF 1 MAT 5: 22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother WITHOUT A CAUSE shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. PROOF 2 PHI 4: 21 Salute every saint in Christ Jesus. The brethren which are with me greet you FOOL MAT 23: 17 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold? MAT 23: 19 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift? LUK 11: 40 Ye fools, did not he that made that which is without make that which is within also? LUK 24: 25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken: CO1 15: 36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die: CO1 15: 36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die: CO1 3: 18 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise. CO1 3: 19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness. MAT 5: 22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. WHAT A CHRISTIAN IS http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/christian.html  (Jul 13, 2014 | post #42)

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If Jesus said few would find the "road that leads to life...

And here we go again! And I may not yet call you a fool, for I must first open your eyes. How do we count adherents? By counting church members: thus we now an average. But how many church attendants are Christian? Even they will tell you 10% or less- if they've got the guts! Many are called, but few are chosen. A Christian is a repented and baptised person, the same is Holy: http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/repentance.html So we count 200,000 Christians, on average. Are your service! When you are a christian: http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/christian.html  (Jul 13, 2014 | post #34)

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Proof: There is a God!

No true Christian is trying to put a dent in Buddhism. Many Christians will tell you that the Buddhist lack only one thing to that prevents them obtaining everlasting live: to believe that Jesus is the son of god and to believe that God exists. The practices of the Buddhist are not at all in conflict with that of Christianity: thus Buddhism becomes the proof that menkind knew very well the difference between good and bad: long before Jesus! Not everyone who claims to be a Christian actually is: for there are many hypocrites! My Buddhism and Martial Arts page: http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/buddhism-martial arts.html  (Jul 13, 2014 | post #63)

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Proof: There is a God!

Well, little sheep: many like you come and go daily, exposing them selves fools. All that Buddhism does is confirm that menkind knew the difference between good and bad, long before Jesus. Too bad Buddhism is teaching that there is no God, for now Buddha cannot be declared a god by Buddhist, save they, too, preach a falsified Buddhism: - which no doubt exists! Because an air plain contains metal does not meant that it is a car, or a bike or a ship, because these also contain this metal, right? And so Christianity contains some of the teachings of other religions, well: no big deal! Show me where the following is written in your Buddhist teachings: Repent and Baptize for the remission of sin, and you shall receive the gift of the holy ghost. And also read all of these: http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/holy-christian-c hurch.html Christianity has proven this to be true: many man and woman have proven it true: http://en.wikipedi a.org/wiki/George_ M%C3%BCller There is one god and one mediator between god and men: Jesus the Christ. The proof is in all the biblical predictions for you to read: from the days of the Jews unto today and what is happening in the middle east. So, little sheep: the Lion, True Christianity, not in the name of imposters, is the living proof of the living God of heaven and earth. ------------------ ------------------ ------------------ ------------------ - - The Gospel is not the way you like to see it: it is the way it is. - Jesus taught those who follow him only to Preach what he taught them - for they can never Teach you. Calling The Unbeliever, Confronting The Lukewarm, Exposing The Hypocrite Do Not Follow Men, Nor Churches! Come to Christ, says God! http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/christian.html http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/baptism.html - Murder: the, by God, unauthorized killing of a creature. - Killing: the, by God, authorized putting to death of a creature. - Judging: In Christianity, the prohibited 'judging' is to execute a penalty upon another as retribution for their sins. - CO1 5: 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? - Protect the Children from Satan in the Churches: http://www.silentl ambs.org - LUK 21:15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.  (Jul 13, 2014 | post #43)

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