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Openly Gay Bishop to lead Easter Breakfast closing Prayer...

Jesus was not married, but the Apostles were, but when Jesus called them they followed him and some left their wives for their work: like Paul, who also remained celibate. As we see, there are as many catholic groups as their protestant counterparts. Episcopal churches do allow homosexually active gay ministers to their churches, while the Romans do not. One big thing bothers me, and it's this: where is the homosexual example of the 2000 years gone by to proof to us that gays can be Christian, repent and receive holiness through baptism? Why hasn't God put that example before us, ike he has provided us with several hetro-sexual examples of which George Ferdinant Muller is the boldest, clearest and an indisputable proof to us. I would love to believe the case for gays to be true, for it's very hard to believe what Paul states, but yet there is no proof against Paul's quote. And on top of that Jesus also tells us to believe Paul. Is there any proof as reference for the gay argument? ------------------ ------------------ ------------------ ------------------ - - The Gospel is not the way you like to see it: it is the way it is. - Jesus taught those who follow him only to Preach what he taught them - for they can never Teach you. Calling The Unbeliever, Confronting The Lukewarm, Exposing The Hypocrite Do Not Follow Men, Nor Churches! Come to Christ, says God! http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/christian.html http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/baptism.html - Murder: the unauthorized (by God) killing of a creature - Killing: the authorized (by God) putting to death of a creature - Judging: In Christianity, the prohibited 'judging' is to execute a penalty upon another as retribution for their sins. - CO1 5: 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? - Protect the Children from Satan in the Churches: http://www.silentl ambs.org - LUK 21:15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.  (Monday | post #17)

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Does Prayer Make A Difference?

Teaching is for lecturers and fools must not attempt to teach: for they cannot. Jesus teaches us and preachers mimic Jesus. When you pray, do not ask vanity or too much. Here an example from the Gospel: MAT 20: 20 Then came to him the mother of Zebedees children with her sons, worshipping him, and desiring a certain thing of him. MAT 20: 21 And he said unto her, What wilt thou? She saith unto him, Grant that these my two sons may sit, the one on thy right hand, and the other on the left, in thy kingdom. MAT 20: 22 But Jesus answered and said, Ye know not what ye ask. Are ye able to drink of the cup that I shall drink of, and to be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? They say unto him, We are able. MAT 20: 23 And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father. MAT 20: 24 And when the ten heard it, they were moved with indignation against the two brethren. BELIEVING IN = Believing that he is the son of God, and that what he has promised us is true? ROM 9: 33 As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. ROM 10: 11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. Are you a Believer, or a Christian? http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/christian.html  (Sunday Apr 20 | post #20)

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Does Prayer Make A Difference?

The fact that you state, "I am getting tired of praying", tells me that you are not a man of faith. If there is war raging then it is very likely God's will. If you feel like praying, go ahead, but: a) you must have faith to receive that you pray for. b) you must be patient and wait until you receive it and not get tired! c) Christians understand not to ask for vanity, but only the things they need. It sounds to me that you may be some lukewarm believer who possibly hasn't repented and maybe just entered the water for a baptism. I advise you to read the book or watch the movie (Robber of the cruel streets) of Gearge Ferdinant Muller: he had to pray and wait - for it's a sure case that he'll receive, for so it is written! http://en.wikipedi a.org/wiki/George_ M%C3%BCller Jesus: Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. HAVE YOU BOUND? I TELL YOU. YOU HAVE LOOSENED THROUGH WEAK FAITH. MAT 21: 22 And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive. (Try to read the full page verse 1-25) ------------------ ------------------ ------------------ ------------------ - - The Gospel is not the way you like to see it: it is the way it is. - Jesus taught those who follow him only to Preach what he taught them - for they can never Teach you. Calling The Unbeliever, Confronting The Lukewarm, Exposing The Hypocrite Do Not Follow Men, Nor Churches! Come to Christ, says God! http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/christian.html http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/baptism.html - Murder: the unauthorized (by God) killing of a creature - Killing: the authorized (by God) putting to death of a creature - Judging: In Christianity, the prohibited 'judging' is to execute a penalty upon another as retribution for their sins. - CO1 5: 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? - Protect the Children from Satan in the Churches: http://www.silentl ambs.org - LUK 21:15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.  (Sunday Apr 20 | post #19)

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JESUS DID NOT TAKE YOUR PLACE on THE CROSS

Well, fool: God only forgives sins in the name of Jesus. If you gonna play lecturer of the Gospel you shouldn't be a fool. No need awaiting your proof, for it doesn't exist. Don't talk crap on Christian forums. Jesus: JOH 10: 9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture. JOH 14: 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.  (Tuesday Apr 15 | post #27)

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JESUS DID NOT TAKE YOUR PLACE on THE CROSS

Then show us where Jesus says this to us? Meantime I show you that he states: repent and baptise for the remission of sin. No restitution crap. Don't be a fool! BORN AGAIN JOH 3: 3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. JOH 3: 4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? JOH 3: 5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. JOH 3: 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. JOH 3: 7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. MAT 18: 3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. JOH 3: 3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. JOH 3: 7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. PE1 1: 23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. ACT 26: 20 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance. ACT 2: 38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. ACT 9: 5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks. http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/index.html  (Tuesday Apr 15 | post #24)

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JESUS DID NOT TAKE YOUR PLACE on THE CROSS

Only one Gospel is being presented in the whole new testament - not two! Show me the different Gospels. Do you know the meaning of Gospel? Meaning: Good News. ------------------ ------------------ ------------------ ------------------ - - The Gospel is not the way you like to see it: it is the way it is. - Jesus taught those who follow him only to Preach what he taught them - for they can never Teach you. Calling The Unbeliever, Confronting The Lukewarm, Exposing The Hypocrite Do Not Follow Men, Nor Churches! Come to Christ, says God! http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/christian.html http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/baptism.html - Murder: the unauthorized (by God) killing of a creature - Killing: the authorized (by God) putting to death of a creature - Judging: In Christianity, the prohibited 'judging' is to execute a penalty upon another as retribution for their sins. - CO1 5: 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? - Protect the Children from Satan in the Churches: http://www.silentl ambs.org - LUK 21:15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.  (Tuesday Apr 15 | post #22)

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JESUS DID NOT TAKE YOUR PLACE on THE CROSS

Oke. This one is perfect! If you're a fool then this proofs even fools can quote it correct once in a while. But I don't know you. so no offence. ONE BAPTISM NO MORE REMISSION FOR SIN HEB 10: 26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, HEB 10: 27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/cgi-bin/bible.pl ?&action=View &Choice=58 &chapter=10 &display=25 &begin=25& end=26&csearch = http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/baptism.html  (Tuesday Apr 15 | post #20)

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now let us all pray for oekraine!

My request to you all: pray ye all for OEKRAINE! PLEASE DO, EVEN YOU WHO DON'T LIKE ME. The power of a prayer from a straight heart has been demonstrated by few and witnessed by many. I know there must be Christians as well as believers among you, so now: LET US PRAY FOR OEKRAINE, THAT THEY MAY PREVAIL! AMEN  (Tuesday Apr 15 | post #1)

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JESUS DID NOT TAKE YOUR PLACE on THE CROSS

Confession were madup my the Catholic church and like so: a) one goes to a pries and confesses a sin. b) the pries claims to speak to God and tells the confessor afterwards that their sin has been forgiven! This is the confessing the catholics talk about and we are talking about? Understood. Proof this is false: a) Jesus says: confess your sins to one-another - not to priest! b) Paul tells us, understanding how it is: the is only one mediator between god and men: the man Jesus! - LUK 21:15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist. .....it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks. http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/index.html  (Monday Apr 14 | post #17)

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Ask a Black Hebrew

Well, fool, why you must impersonate another is a big question, but everyone know that there is but one 'Cliff09': the guy with that beautiful blonde! Go read his ministry and learn the truth: ------------------ ------------------ ------------------ ------------------ - - The Gospel is not the way you like to see it: it is the way it is. - Jesus taught those who follow him only to Preach what he taught them - for they can never Teach you. Calling The Unbeliever, Confronting The Lukewarm, Exposing The Hypocrite Do Not Follow Men, Nor Churches! Come to Christ, says God! http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/christian.html http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/baptism.html - Murder: the unauthorized (by God) killing of a creature - Killing: the authorized (by God) putting to death of a creature - Judging: In Christianity, the prohibited 'judging' is to execute a penalty upon another as retribution for their sins. - CO1 5: 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? - Protect the Children from Satan in the Churches: http://www.silentl ambs.org - LUK 21:15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.  (Monday Apr 14 | post #175)

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Was Paul a False Apostle?

Miles long threads of nonsense discussion that lead nowhere! Jesus says: repent and baptize for everlasting life. And that's the only discussion required for Christians. A: what is repenting? B: what is baptism? C: note that these two together are metaphorically referred to as: born again. We see that the big work is in repenting, and this believers in Christ must discuss and be concerned with, for it can be said: upon this rests the whole foundation of salvation! Born again/Repenting/Ba ptism http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/born-again.html ------------------ ------------------ ------------------ ------------------ - - The Gospel is not the way you like to see it: it is the way it is. - Jesus taught those who follow him only to Preach what he taught them - for they can never Teach you. Calling The Unbeliever, Confronting The Lukewarm, Exposing The Hypocrite Do Not Follow Men, Nor Churches! Come to Christ, says God! http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/christian.html http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/baptism.html - Murder: the unauthorized (by God) killing of a creature - Killing: the authorized (by God) putting to death of a creature - Judging: In Christianity, the prohibited 'judging' is to execute a penalty upon another as retribution for their sins. - CO1 5: 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? - Protect the Children from Satan in the Churches: http://www.silentl ambs.org - LUK 21:15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.  (Monday Apr 14 | post #1196)

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Absolute Proof of Predestination

Correction: the Devil does all but one of the things you've mentioned: he does not move woman to do abortion. http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/abortion.html  (Monday Apr 14 | post #105)

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Absolute Proof of Predestination

Your closing question gives the answer: God made man upright, but they made many inventions! The Devil does all the things you've mentioned.  (Monday Apr 14 | post #104)

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JESUS DID NOT TAKE YOUR PLACE on THE CROSS

Cutting and pasting lines like a fool makes no sense: but idiots can't do any better. Why they cut and paste, nobody knows. ACT 2: 17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: ACT 2: 18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy: ACT 2: 19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke: ACT 2: 20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day of the Lord come: ACT 2: 21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. ACT 2: 22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: If we take the quote here literally, then it means that in the last days, God shall make an exception and give manking a last 'pass' by granting them his mercy, if they call upon him! For now, we must repent and baptise for the remission of sin. Matthew: 16:24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. And may I add: and let no man add unto this burden, for the cross is heavy enough, though the yoke is easy and the burden is light compared to the award! Do not believe them when they make up burdens like refrain from masturbation, atonement etc.: all rubbish never mentioned in the Gospel. We follow Jesus, not men - modern day Pharesees! ROM 5: 11 And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement. ( atonement in this context meaning 'the means to obtain forgiveness for our sins': repentance and baptism.) And to al the fools, whom Jesus him self called by this name, for fools they are: ACT 9: 5 .......And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks. http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/index.html  (Monday Apr 14 | post #9)

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Absolute Proof of Predestination

No. You're wrong again. Too many people think they're professors of the truth, while there are so very few: and I MAY be one of them! Predestination: the life of a person being structured from A to Z, from the day of birth. Seeing in the future does not denote predestination! Absolutely not. Clairvoyance is a gift whereby a person mysteriously receives a disclosure of event to occur in the future. predestination has no share in this. What the person can see may or may not be predestined for the people involved and thus will include the lives of both predestined and not. I personally believe that the lives of some people are predestined, but surely not everybody's. ------------------ ------------------ ------------------ ------------------ - - The Gospel is not the way you like to see it: it is the way it is. - Jesus taught those who follow him only to Preach what he taught them - for they can never Teach you. Calling The Unbeliever, Confronting The Lukewarm, Exposing The Hypocrite Do Not Follow Men, Nor Churches! Come to Christ, says God! http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/christian.html http://www.theholy christianchurch.co m/baptism.html - Murder: the unauthorized (by God) killing of a creature - Killing: the authorized (by God) putting to death of a creature - Judging: In Christianity, the prohibited 'judging' is to execute a penalty upon another as retribution for their sins. - CO1 5: 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? - Protect the Children from Satan in the Churches: http://www.silentl ambs.org - LUK 21:15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.  (Sunday Apr 13 | post #102)

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