Jun 20, 2007
"Lowering the 10MPH speed limit is not going to do anything to alleviate the dangerous conditions." Cutting the speed limit in half will do nothing? You are right, there is no middle ground. You are the proof. (Aug 8, 2010 | post #14)
We have a right to anything a law is not written opposing it. I have a right to cross a street until a law is written against it. If you want to talk about civil rights, go ahead. Yes there are laws written to preserve certain rights. Other laws are written to take away our rights. I have made many suggestions. It seems there is no happy medium for those who OPPOSE beach driving, not those who support it. Offer to lower the speed limit, make more sections non-driving, make sections one-way. But no... How can you say it is those who support beach driving who can't find a happy medium. It is those who are intolerant who will not accept anything less than no beach driving. (Aug 8, 2010 | post #12)
You may call it a privilege if it pleases you, but until they pass a law against it, I have the right to drive on the beach. If you put it that way, drinking at a bar or owning a gun is a privilege until they outlaw guns and bars. Funny how something becomes a privilege just before it is taken away. (Aug 7, 2010 | post #9)
thinking we have the right..."? Wrong! We do have the right. It is the law. Some want to take that right away from us. (Aug 7, 2010 | post #7)
The day I see a "No Cruising" sign is the day I actively campaign against anyone who votes for it. (Aug 2, 2010 | post #5)
Drop the speed limit to 5mph and be done with it. It's the only way out without spending millions on new parking and still making large areas of the beach virtually inaccessable. Maybe, just maybe, put a roadblock between each approach and make an area to turn around. I don't particularly like this idea because it would only affect those who like to cruise on the beach and would remove more parking area from the beach. Another idea, in lieu of the last, would be to make areas of the beach between ramps one-way, thus creating a single lane of traffic which would be less confusing to younger beachgoers. I am against any decision which would have the effect of making portions of the beach virtually private due to lack of access. (Aug 1, 2010 | post #2)
The county wanted the beach, the county got the beach. If the county wants off beach parking, the county, not just the east side of the county, should pay for it. "Vice Chair Joie Alexander noted the Port Authority assessment wouldnt affect West Volusia property owners. Its just making the people east of [Interstate] 95 pay, she said." (Jul 30, 2010 | post #2)
I haven't driven on the beach since my return... mainly because of what the beach does to my vehicles, not because of what my vehicles do to the beach. But that does not change the fact that there are not enough parking spaces or the fact that there are non-driving sections for those who worry about traffic. I'm sure there are many beachfront homeowners who don't oppose beach driving, but they aren't the ones who are screaming. (Jul 29, 2010 | post #15)
There are sections of beach where there are no cars. If the kids aren't old enough to look both ways and avoid traffic, take them to one of those sections. If you can find a parking space. Not good enough for you? BTW: Where was this child's father parked? On the beach? Odds on he was. I believe there are fewer than 500 off-beach parking spaces in NSB. Go ahead and ban beach driving. Finish killing off this town. Residences should never have been built on the east side of A1A. But they were, and now many of the owners want there very own private beach. Never forget where the big money comes from in this debate. (Jul 27, 2010 | post #12)
I will say it again: You are safer on the beach than driving there. Period. (Jul 24, 2010 | post #5)
I am very saddenesd by the tragic death of this child. My condolences to his family. But for all the people who want to ban beach driving, keep in mind that the most dangerous part of driving on the beach is getting there. One is many times more likely to die or be seriously injured on the way to the beach than once they get there. If we had more and more evenly spaced parking, I would go along with a ban on beach driving. Only if it doesn't involve crossing Atlantic. Otherwise, more children would be killed crossing the road than anyone could imagine being killed or injured on the beach. Imagine thousands of visitors crossing Atlantic Avenue traffic most weekends. And I do mean thousands. Many of them children and traffic traveling at many times the speed of beach traffic. I personally believe that all property which abuts the beach should be park property. You want to kill what business remains in NSB? Stop beach driving without supplying parking. Lots of parking. (Jul 20, 2010 | post #2)
Looks like we have a trigger man in custody. What about the driver? (Jul 19, 2010 | post #1)
What is missing on Canal St? There used to be a hardware store, bank, theater, pool hall, rec center for kids, book store (is there still a book store?), post office, and two drug stores. In other words, all the things that make a downtown a downtown. Not to mention a grocery store only one block away. Most of the vital day to day errands have moved away. (Jul 18, 2010 | post #8)
The reason I never, and I mean never, ride Votran is because the routes and schedule are so limited. It is not designed to get anyone to work, especially in the NSB/Edgewater/Oak Hill area, and now would not get a single grocery shopper to a store in NSB without calling first. You can't get there from here and even if you could, you couldn't get back. Why doesn't Votran use smaller cheaper vehicles in the smaller markets? I see these smaller buses at airports and major metropolitan areas all over the country. But not here. It's all or nothing it seems. I don't know the difference in price between a 16 passenger commuter van and one of these behemoths Votran insists on using but I'm willing to bet it would be enough to save the existing routes and maybe even add one early -- before 6:30am -- northbound route. How can it be that anyone working in Daytona and living in NSB and points south cannot possibly get to work before 9am or so? (Jul 11, 2010 | post #1)
"Canal Street is ready to explode," Wiley said. Implode is more like it. I've said it before. This all started when we rerouted traffic past the downtown area to the beachside with the new south bridge. Now Flagler Ave. is getting an ill advised hotel. But what about Canal St.? A new waterfront Hotel, as someone suggests? Where? Has anyone seen the Ft. Pierce equivalent of Canal St. (Orange Ave. I think)? Dead as a doornail. And it is one of the main through streets. Good luck folks. Just remember it was 'progress' that got us where we are. Bypass our main street and wonder what happened to business. That's a good one. (Jul 6, 2010 | post #1)
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