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Jehovah's Witness

But of that day knoweth no man, Matthew 24:36

Lol! Beautiful.  (11 hrs ago | post #157)

Jehovah's Witness

But of that day knoweth no man, Matthew 24:36

So the old man died? How fitting that he passed away before the world he claimed would pass away in his lifetime. Harold was only one man in a very long line of endtime prognosticators that have existed in every generation since Christ ascended back to heaven. I have no doubt that he'll be joined by many, many more 'these are the last days' false prophets as long as men like him keep reading things into Bible prophecy that really aren't there.  (11 hrs ago | post #156)

Jehovah's Witness

But of that day knoweth no man, Matthew 24:36

Thank you very much. When I finally got tired of all the Watchtower flip-flops and endless speculations (which we were discouraged from doing), I began to read more about historians like Josephus which the Watchtower actually quotes from occasionally when it fits their agenda. The more I read these ancient secular accounts, I found myself suddenly able to put pieces of this puzzle together without the aid of JW material. In fact, it was the JW material that was confusing me. Even though I soon realized that none of this additional information has a bearing of my salvation, it was good to know and helped me to see through the errors presented by the Watchtower. For if Jesus' parousia was nearly 2,000 years in the past, all that crap about 1914 is completely bogus including their claims of being appointed by God. Today, we see the lies catching up with the Watchtower. All the recent changes in the last few years have taken a toll on many within the organization.  (17 hrs ago | post #145)

Jehovah's Witness

But of that day knoweth no man, Matthew 24:36

Here's the point, you can imagine that those prophecies were pointing to events of our day but you cannot change the fact that they were all written, not to YOU, but to people who lived thousands of years ago and these were given specific time statements that place their fulfillment in the past to only one particular generation. For example, Jesus directed his words to his apostles. He told THEM what signs to look for before his presence. He told THEM to always be ready and to live each day in expectation of his return in their lifetime. He said that before his arrival, their would be wars, famines, earthquakes and that they would be persecuted for following him. Then Jesus warned them that the Romans armies would come and surround Jerusalem and that they should flee to the mountains and not come back into that city because it was divinely destined to be destroyed in the most horrific way the world had ever seen. The rest of the prophecy including his arrival in kingdom power is still tied to 1st century Judea for Jesus tells THEM, not YOU, that as these terrible things begin to happen, to lift up their heads because he is going to deliver them. You can believe whatever you want, but I believe that Jesus came back delivered the 1st century Christians from that great tribulation period as promised. I'm sure you have doubts about it and therefore keep looking for a future second coming. Go for it.  (17 hrs ago | post #144)

Jehovah's Witness

But of that day knoweth no man, Matthew 24:36

Tell me, do you REALLY believe that God resurrected His Son Jesus from the dead and has exalted him to a superior position? Does you believe Jesus when he says that all authority has been given him in heaven AND on this earth? Do you truly believe that Jesus now seats in heaven at the right hand of Power and that he rules in the kingdom of God? If so, THAT is the fulfillment of the scripture you posted above! The kingdom of God is heavenly not earthly. God rejected and abandoned the earthly kingdom in 70 AD. The Apostles and first Christian disciples were resurrected to a new spiritual life in heaven with God and Jesus. Flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God. Just because you cannot see these things presently doesn’t mean they don't exist. Where is your faith that God will do all that He has promised to do? Unfortunately, one common mistake that people make is that of adopting the view that God is going to transform this world into a paradise where a person will live forever and never die. The Bible doesn't teach this. We all die. And after, judgment.  (18 hrs ago | post #143)

Jehovah's Witness

But of that day knoweth no man, Matthew 24:36

Very true.  (Yesterday | post #142)

Jehovah's Witness

But of that day knoweth no man, Matthew 24:36

Matt. 24: 15 “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ [Roman armies] spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— 16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17 Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house. 18 Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak. 19 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! 20 Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. 21 For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again. 29 “Immediately after the distress of those days “ ‘the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’ 30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earthc will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. 31And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other. ---- This is a single prophecy that applies to a single generation. The prophecy is not broken up over thousands of years and there is no such thing as double fulfillments. ALL of the prophecy takes place in only one generation. Jesus identifies that generation as 1st century Judea.  (Monday | post #93)

Jehovah's Witness

But of that day knoweth no man, Matthew 24:36

No, it does not. But you can believe that if you wish.  (Monday | post #89)

Jehovah's Witness

But of that day knoweth no man, Matthew 24:36

Completely fulfilled. All of it. God promised to bring the sword against His rebellious nation because of her unfaithfulness. That sword was the Roman Empire aka Gog of Magog. God sent His prophets to them time after time but they would take them and torture and kill them. Finally, God sent His own Son. They did to him what they wished and killed the One sent to them to give them Life. God resurrected His Son and sent him back again to that same wicked generation and destroyed them all and burned their holy city Jerusalem. Then God after using the Romans punish His own people, turned His wrath against the Roman Empire and destroyed it from within. This is not new information. Read the Jewish/Roman Wars by Josephus.  (Monday | post #87)

Jehovah's Witness

But of that day knoweth no man, Matthew 24:36

I doesn't matter what I think. The question is, can you read with comprehension? Everything that Jesus foretold would occur in his generation occurred before that generation passed away - including his parousia! Yet, somehow today in this enlightened age, some like you still insist on taking God's prophetic Word out of context. The result? Millions being mislead by false end time dates that lead to disappointment time after time after time. The solution is to break the cycle by accepting what the Bible says whether we fully understand it or not.  (Monday | post #84)

Jehovah's Witness

But of that day knoweth no man, Matthew 24:36

Great point. I hadn't thought about that. I wonder if they will make further changes to this.  (Monday | post #66)

Jehovah's Witness

But of that day knoweth no man, Matthew 24:36

To whom were the words of the New Testament written for? Hint: Corinthians, Ephesians, Philipians, etc. Those words found their complete fulfillment upon the generation of Jews and gentiles that received the Word first hand. Even though it may appear that it is talking about our day, it wasn't. This is where we have have got to stop making the same mistake of previous generations. The Bible is not talking about us today. It was written for those upon whom the end of the 1st century Jewish generation had arrived, namely Jesus' apostles and disciples of the distant past. However, you are welcome to apply it as you see fit in your life.  (Monday | post #65)

Jehovah's Witness

But of that day knoweth no man, Matthew 24:36

Lol! Good reply.  (Monday | post #64)

Jehovah's Witness

But of that day knoweth no man, Matthew 24:36

But the fact remains, that it was. We cannot change that. Those passages found at Matthew 24/25, Mark 13 and Luke 21 are focused squarely on the nation of Israel and Jerusalem as they existed in the 1st century. At no time does Jesus prophecy past that particular generation of Jews of his day. The warning was given to THEM and to THEM alone. His disciples were to flee to the mountains whenever the Jerusalem became encompassed by the Roman army. This ignited the great tribulation. Immediately after this great tribulation is when the sign of the Son of Man appeared.  (Monday | post #62)

Jehovah's Witness

But of that day knoweth no man, Matthew 24:36

Jace, As I have often mentioned many times before, once every blue moon I will accompany my family to the kingdom hall just because we have always been a close family unit since my kids were small. They still like it when I go with them but they have learned never to ask me to go. I simply can't tolerate the WT crap anymore. But I went today. I usually exit the building right after all the BS from the talk, but today I was in a good mood so I stuck around. The Watchtower conductor brought up the fact that the type and antitype BS was discarded. I guess I was little astounded at how everyone just didn't seem to really care about it and some seemed to even joke about it. I was like, 'Wow. Really?' I just looked at my devout JW wife and shook my head. They said that they were mistaken in the 1920s and in the 1990s but now they've got it right this time. I just sat there and chuckled on the inside. It looks like the Watchtower has bought themselves some more time to grow through spreading fear. They now claim that all the anointed have to be sealed and then Armageddon will come. But in the meantime, people will be saved by how they treat the remaining anointed. Bull$hi#!! That is precisely why I cannot go with my family each week to hear this nonsense.  (Monday | post #61)