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How to Witness to a Jehovah's Witness Ray Comfort comments

Christian Trucker wrote: So if that is true, then explain Eph.2:8,9 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast. If one must maintain their salvation, THEN, that put " yourself " in the equation, when the scriptures clearly contradicts that. And I'm sure we would both agree, that if it were possible, then one would use their works of righteousness to maintain their salvation, but what does the book say? Titus 3: 4-6 4 But when the kindness and the love of God our Savior toward man appeared, 5 NOT BY works of righteousness WHICH WE HAVE DONE, but according to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit, 6 whom He poured out on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior, So now we see that your "works of righteousness " will not work, so just HOW are you going to maintain your salvationPlease give us some example of the things that you are doing that you know from scripture is helping you maintain your salvation.  (Aug 24, 2015 | post #1387)

Jehovah's Witness

How to Witness to a Jehovah's Witness Ray Comfort comments

Christian Trucker wrote: If one must maintain their salvation, THEN, that put " yourself " in the equation, when the scriptures clearly contradicts thatPlease believe me I'm not giving anyone a green light to sin, my point is that we are not sinless after we become saved regardless of how hard you try not to, which should tell / show a person that is trying to maintain their salvation by their works how useless they are.  (Aug 24, 2015 | post #1386)

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Little Lamb and the context of James 2

Christian Trucker wrote: Yeah I couldn't help to notice that you snipped the scripture that proved my point. LOL But here it is again. Rom.4:1-6 What then shall we say that Abraham our father has found according to the flesh? 2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. 3 For what does the Scripture say?“Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” 4 Now to him who works, the wages are not counted as grace but as debt. 5 But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness, 6 just as David also describes the blessedness of the man to whom God imputes righteousness apart from works: I know WHAT his works were,the questions WAS Abraham justified by his works or his faith ACCORDING to Romans 4:1-6? You know to act so smart, you sure have a problem with the simplest of questionsHere is the question that you avoided: I know WHAT his works were,the questions WAS Abraham justified by his works or his faith ACCORDING to Romans 4:1-6? Yes or No?  (Aug 24, 2015 | post #106)

Jehovah's Witness

Little Lamb and the context of James 2

Christian Trucker wrote: Ah.....Boni....... it is you that is teaching a works based salvation. You know,the maintaining your salvation thing???? Confused much? No need to watch me, you are the one spinning! LOLHas your "lifestyle based salvation" made you sinless? If not,then how is your lifestyle going to keep you saved?  (Aug 24, 2015 | post #105)

Jehovah's Witness

Little Lamb and the context of James 2

Christian Trucker wrote: Just so you'll know that you're not alone,it is interesting that EVERY single religion known to man is a religion of works-- EXCEPT the gospel of Jesus Christ!!!! Hinduism tells us we that if we renounce the world and relate ourselves to the "spirit of the universe," we will at last find our way to peace. Buddhism sets before us eight principles by which human beings are to walk and thus find themselves on the way to salvation. Judaism says we MUST keep the Law absolutely and inflexibly and then we will be saved. Islam says a person must pray five times a day and give alms and fasting during the month of Ramadan and obey the commands of Allah. Unitarianism says that people that people are saved by having good character. Modern humanism says that salvation is achieved through service to humankind. ALL are ways of WORKS. In every case,salvation is said to be attained by something WE MUST do. BUT the Good News of Jesus Christ has done it all!!!! He ALONE has DONE what no one can do for themselves.He has set us free!!! So now you can SEE why Jesus said this in Matt,7:13,14 13 “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14 Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it. So Boni, now that you are maintaining your salvation by your works you can see that you are just like the majority, and you are on the wide roadThat was not an distraction, it is facts that puts the jws in the same boat as all the other "works" based false teachings, supported by scripture  (Aug 24, 2015 | post #104)

Jehovah's Witness

Little Lamb and the context of James 2

Christian Trucker wrote: Rom.8:1 There is therefore now NO CONDEMNATION to those WHO ARE IN Christ Jesus We see that Judas did not believe that Jesus was Lord,so he was not saved / connected to the vine at anytime so he didn't have salvation and lose it,he never had it. So this is not a "you must" or you lose your salvation verse as you think, Judas did not BELIEVE, which means he didn't bear any fruit.<quoted text>You mean I cannot ignore OTHER THINGS that Paul had to say , BUT YOU CAN. Thats funny!!!! If you read the CONTEXT of the first three chapters of Romans ( yeah right ) you'll see that in chapter 1 Paul talks about the open sinners and in chapter 2 he talks about people who don't do the things in chapter 1, but wouldn't mind watching, like girls gone wild. Then in chapter 3 he talks about the super spiritual like yourself, and by the time he gets to verse 10 he pulls all categories into one verse. Rom.3:10 10 As it is written:“There is NONE righteous, no, not one; And seals the deal in the famous verse 23. 23 for ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, You are included in the "none" in verse 10 and the "all" in verse 23 even though you are a jws. Now if you read chapter 3:24-chapter 5 you see just HOW you can be "in Christ Jesus" so by the time you get to Romans 8:1 you can BELIEVE THIS: Rom.8:1 There is therefore now NO CONDEMNATION to those WHO ARE IN Christ Jesus. BUT LOOK!!!!! Please don't believe me,try reading outside your Watchtower sometime and ACTUALLY read your bible sometime. Now if you disagree if anything I said, then prove me wrong by using the context of Romans to do so. If you agree, then tell me you doThe problem you are having here is that not all things in scripture are for us [ Gentiles ] today.Paul's letters was written for us today.Paul was an Apostle OF the Gentiles. Rom. 11:13 13 For I speak to you Gentiles; inasmuch as I am an apostle TO THE Gentiles, I magnify my ministry, 2 Tim. 1:11 11 to which I was appointed a preacher, an apostle, and a teacher OF THE Gentiles. If Paul and the twelve were preaching the exact same message, then why the split here? Gal.2:7,8 7 But on the contrary, when they saw that the gospel for the uncircumcised [ Gentiles ] had been committed TO ME, as the gospel for the circumcised [ Jews ] was to Peter 8 (for He who worked effectively in Peter for the apostleship to the circumcised [ Jews ] also worked effectively in me toward the Gentiles), I'm quoting from Paul,you are quoting John. I'm not saying we should disregard the Gospels all together, just divide what applies to us today and to them back then.  (Aug 24, 2015 | post #103)

Jehovah's Witness

Little Lamb and the context of James 2

Christian Trucker wrote: There was no need to look up "Rabbi." He is not my Rabbi,He is my Lord. I see you snipped the scripture I used to prove my point,which proves that just believing that Jesus was just a teacher and not Lord won't save you. Rom.10:8-11 8 But what does it say?“The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart”[e](that is, the word of faith which we preach): 9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the Scripture says,“Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.” Judas did not believe that Jesus was Lord, only a Rabbi. Verse 9 doesn't say " that if you confess with your mouth the RABBI Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. It says: 9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. I suggest you compare this to your Rabbi. http://www.bluelet terbible.org/lang/ Lexicon/L... BIG differenceOpinions ? No, that was scripture. Jesus had not died on the cross at that time, the Jews were suppose to believe in WHO He was FOR salvation ,we believe in WHAT He has DONE for our salvation. So do you really think Judas believed in who He was?  (Aug 24, 2015 | post #102)

Jehovah's Witness

Little Lamb and the context of James 2

Christian Trucker wrote: The TIME he was dismissed has nothing to do with my point. Even though Judas was not there doesn't mean that Jesus was not talking ABOUT himLet me start this with a couple of questions. Just how did a sinner like you become to be "in Jesus" to begin with? You were born a sinner and you die a sinner, so how did you get "in" and just how or what is a sinner like you going to do that you know will keep you in? Since this is an biblical discussion, please use scripture to support your answer.  (Aug 24, 2015 | post #101)

Jehovah's Witness

Little Lamb and the context of James 2

Christian Trucker wrote: <quoted text>I agree that the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believesI agree that it will become a lifestyle, but it was your mental acceptance alone that saved you. It would be a great bible study for you use an Concordance and study the word "believe " when referring to salvation in the context, and notice the lack of the word "works." If works were an requirement, then it would have been in every scripture. Remember the scriptures are Holy Spirit inspired.  (Aug 24, 2015 | post #100)

Jehovah's Witness

Little Lamb and the context of James 2

Christian Trucker wrote: For salvation, yes. After you are saved,you become a slave of righteousness,but one does not work FOR SALVATION. Watch the order,saved FIRST, then works. Rom.6:18 18 And having been [ past tense ]set free from [ what?] sin, you BECAME slaves of righteousness. You are preaching WORKS FOR salvation, big differenceThis is the salvation that I believe in: http://www.bluelet terbible.org/lang/ Lexicon/Lexicon.cf m?strongs=G4991 &t=KJV Now that you know, you can continue.  (Aug 24, 2015 | post #99)

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Christian Trucker and OSAS Doctrine

Me too, I'll be starting with post #274 next week, see ya.  (May 3, 2015 | post #428)

Jehovah's Witness

Christian Trucker and OSAS Doctrine

If you would read the context you would see that the word "sacrifice " is mention 10 times,so it's safe to say we're talking about the sacrifice,not salvation. What the writer is saying is that AFTER you have heard about the sacrifice of our Lord Jesus Christ you can sacrifice all the animals you want and it will NOT do you any good. Heb.10:1 For the law, having a shadow of the good things TO COME, and not the very image of the things, can NEVER with these same sacrifices, which they offer continually year by year, make those who approach perfect. Heb. 10:11-14 11 And every priest stands ministering daily and offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, which can NEVER take away sins. 12 But THIS MAN, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God, 13 from that time waiting till His enemies are made His footstool. 14 For by ONE OFFERING He has perfected forever THOSE who are being sanctified. Heb.10:19-23 19 Therefore, brethren, having BOLDNESS to ENTER the Holiest BY THE BLOOD of Jesus, 20 by a new and living way which He consecrated for us, through the veil, that is, His flesh, 21 and having a High Priest over the house of God, 22 let us draw near with a true heart in full ASSURANCE of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience and our bodies WASHED with PURE water. 23 Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful. Don't you wished you had this assurance? Now let's just say that what you are trying to get this scripture to say is true. ONE willful sin mean one would lose their salvation. Was David's sin with Bath-Sheba a "willful sin?" How about Peter denying the Lord Jesus Christ? Was that a "willful sin?" Paul said this in Rom.7: 18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) NOTHING good dwells; for to will is present with me, but how to perform what is good I do not find. 19 For the good that I will to do, I do not do; but the evil I will not to do, that I PRACTICE. Is that a "willful sin?" Did Paul lose his salvation?  (May 3, 2015 | post #427)

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Christian Trucker and OSAS Doctrine

A OSAS Christian believes ONLY in the shed blood for salvation, the scripture is referring to people like you who are seeking to be justified by something you are doing, not in what He has done.  (May 3, 2015 | post #426)

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Christian Trucker and OSAS Doctrine

When you are maintaining your salvation, are you TRYING to make yourself right with God?  (May 3, 2015 | post #425)

Jehovah's Witness

Christian Trucker and OSAS Doctrine

In Galatians 5:4, the context is Paul’s warning against mixing law / works and the Gospel to attain justification. He says to those who let themselves be circumcised (Galatians 5:2) that they are “trying to be justified by law” and have therefore “been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace.”There is no mention of salvation or the security of the believer. He is telling those who receive circumcision—in other words attempt to justify themselves through the rites and rules of the Law—that Christ will be of “no benefit” to them. Sounds like you in your" maintaining your salvation." Looks like you have fallen from grace / UNDESERVED kindness.  (May 3, 2015 | post #424)

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