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I am not sure if people writing on this topic are employees. I am a member not an employee. I am unsure of the bad blood between gyms and gym personnel but I do know that since June aI haev been attending Kick and Power classes at Global, I have lost 25 puounts and 3 inches of my waist. I know that I continue to go to class because of the instructors and other participants. It is nice to walk into a gym and be welcomed by happy clients and employees. (Wednesday | post #14)
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Again, let's resort to personal attacks. I was put up for adoption by a mother who could not support me and my twin brother. We were put into a awesome home and brought up in a loving heterosexual family. My fear would be that as an infant today, they could be placed in a homosexual home and I would have missed the experiance I had by having a mother and a father. Granted not all heterosexual relationships are wonderful. Some are very bad and abusive. But, we are just starting to learn the effects of children placed in homosexual homes. And many of the effects are not good at all. Children will always be missing one parent. A father or a mother in those circumsances. Granted another issue in society is fatherless homes. Fathers who are not taking responsibility for there children not giving them a good role models. (Thursday Jul 31 | post #544)
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You know something, I can take just about any criticism direct towards me but please, if all you can do is blaspheme my God, it would be better you said nothing. I would be more than willing to debate the issue of abstinance with you in an inttelegent manner. But comments like the one you posted does nothing but inflame people. It has no useful purpose in the discussion at hand. (Thursday Jul 31 | post #540)
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I agree with you but I am constantly being burraged by those who belive in same-sex marraige. By activist legislators and judges, I am having the gay lobby's beliefs forced on me. I have been called a biggot, homophobe, and intolerant for my beliefs. There are other terms people use towards me also. I am willing to endure it but I would hope those that are radically pushing the same-sex agend would have some respect for my beliefs. When ever ther has been a vote of the citizenry, the majority has spoken against it. For those who want to equate this with the civil rights movement of the 50's and 60's that is fine. But even many of those who were involved in that historic time, not only do not believe it is the same, but are offended by the comparison. The effected group in the 60's did not choose to be born black, but as more and more research is being done, it is being proven that homosexuality is not a DNA issue but a choice. i know people do not want to hear that, but it is self eveident with the number of bi-sexual and homosexual individuals that leave the lifestyle and become straight and the backlash from the homsexual lobby against them. (Thursday Jul 31 | post #539)
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I need to ask you if you read my post. I did say marriage did not always produce children. I am not even going to get into same-sex couples having or adopting children and the issues that come up about that. I was adopted and I purposely stay away from that issue. (Thursday Jul 31 | post #536)
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That is where I make the distinction. I am a Christian who has a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. What I follow is not a "religion ". I have a spirtual relationship with Christ and attend a church of like minded individuals. I try my best to live my life they way the bible teaches (boy I do fail at times) not by a set of rules that a "religion " has set down. I do not argue about the doctorine of "religions " as long as they fall within the true meaning of God's word. Regardless if you belong to a "religous " sect or not, God blesses the covenant union between man and woman because He ordained marraige as between a woman and a man. So to answer your question, my belief is that your marriage would be a marriage in God's eyes. (Thursday Jul 31 | post #532)
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Thanks for the input. You are right of course. But I would hope that having children is not just a physical act between lusting adults. Though in reality that does happen more frequently than not in todays day of moral relativism. I also know of one sure fire way of birth control that works, abstinance. The bible speaks about the soul ties that are created when an unmarried couple has sex. It is a tie that stays with the individuals for the rest of their lives unless they turn to God and ask for him to break it and for forgiveness of their sin. Too many young girls and woman are becoming preganant not realizing the consequence of the sexual act they committed 9 months earlier. To cure this sin, society has develop abortion and the "morning after pill" so that there is no consequence for having sex at a younger age and with disregard of the outcome. I must revert back to the premise that God abhors sin, and premarital sex (Fornication) is a sin. This does not mean children can't come out that relationship. It also does not mean that God won't bless the child. God loves all His children whether regardless of the method of arrival. But unfortuantely, with the selfishness of many in todays society, anything goes as longs it it feels good for them. (Thursday Jul 31 | post #531)
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In a biblical sense, God create a man and a woman to procreate. That is right from Genesis. No where in the bible does it discuss the same-sex relationship as acceptable. Or even as an alternative. There honestly may not be anough charectors allowing in a single post to past all the scripture references pertaining to the marraige covenamt made of God being between a man and a woman. The bible speaks of man and wife through the two testements and as far as I know does not refer to the parties in a marraige as anything but husband and wife. Never as party 1 and part 2. I believe that marriage is a sacred convenant between the husband and wife and God himself. It is a weave of three strands that can not be broken. Since it was not God's intention to have marriages between the same sex, a convenant can not be made with God to bless that marriage. Now again, I am speaking from my Christian belief system knowing full well you may disagree with me. But even though you may disagree, I hope we can discuss this issue in a civil manner. (Thursday Jul 31 | post #529)
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Thank you for your post. To answer you directly, a marriage is real between a man and a woman even when no children come from it. But with that said, they have the possiblity to have childre, of course except for those medically unable to. I also believe that children are the usual and natural result of marraige. (Thursday Jul 31 | post #526)
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This debate can become taxing on the average bible believeing Christian. I have learned not to debate doctorine between "true Christian" sects. Some believe that we operate inidividuals still can operate within the gifts of God (speaking in toungues, etc.), others don't. Some believe the sabbath is on Saturday, others Sunday. Some believe in no make-up, no dancing, no secular music, and not going to the movies. Many do not have these restrictions. It is unfortunate today though, that many pastors and preachers have turn a deaf ear to the still small voice og God and am preaching what the world wants to hear, not what is truly of God. Same-sex marraige is one of those areas, along with abortion, and other areas. These individuals only think about filling their pews each week and do not want to alienate anyone from coming to their church. They want the largest church, they want the status, they want to income. But by doing so, the preach a false message. At the end only God knows where peoples hearts are at and we will only know the real truth when we leave this earth and have to stand before God in judgement for our sins. (Thursday Jul 31 | post #523)
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I guess as a brief explanation (I apologize if I do not do it justice) is that when Jesus died on the cross, a new and everalsting convenant was created. The covenant made by God during the time of Leviticus (I give you credit for reading that book becuase it can become redunant after ther first chapters) was about individual requirements to make sacrifices to God. Sacrifices to repent for the sins of the people to include sins I spoke about in an earlier posting. When Jesus died on the cross, His sacrifice was for all. The last blood sacrifice required. A new covenant was created between God an His people. Instead of God seeing us as the sinners we truly are, Jesus, through His never-ending forgiveness, cleanses us from our sin. In the Old Testement, death did occur when the Lord witnessed us not living in repentance for our sin. Individuals of that day were banish those who would sin because of a fear that they would be stuck down by God. Now again this only makes sense to those who believe the Wod of God as written in the bible which comes from faith in Him. What I am not saying is that those who do not believe are somehow not as intelligant or wise as those who do. But as with you last post, Jesus went to those who were downtrodden and weak. Not those who believed they had everything and relied on their own strength. As to the interpretation of the written word of God. I am not educated enough to speak on the origin of words in the bible. I can say though, that in the Book Of Revelations it speaks on those who will twist the words of God to their own sinful benefit and that there would be "wolves in sheeps clothing" out there attempting to lead God's people away to slaughter. (Thursday Jul 31 | post #521)
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You are correct in what Jesus did. He brought the weakest out of sin and they followed him. He ministered to those who were open to hear his teachings. The lost and the hopeless. Jesus washed sin from the prostitute, healed the lepper, and even on the cross, stated that the thief next to him would meet him in paradise because he believed. He does the same today. For those who seek him, he give us sinners an opportunity to turn from our sinful ways and live as he did. In no way will we become perfect, only God is perfect, but we can progress from the sinful life we once lived to a life of hope and faith. Now this is were disagreement begins. The bible clearly states that sex outside of marraige is a sin. Furthermore, it states that sex between those of the same sex is a sin. So to combine the thoughts, if Jesus were walking the earth today in an earthly body, he would be searching out those who sin to bring them out of a sinful life. Now of course, only those who believe in the bible as the inspired Word of God would believe what just said and I would not expect to sway those individuals that do not believe. But even those who "religions " that do not believe in Jesus Christ as our Savior, believe that sexual relations between those of the same sex is immoral. Muslims, Jews, and Christians alike agree on this issue. This does not mean that homosexuals are evil people. As individuals they are as sinful as the rest of us. The Lord does not have a rating scale for sin. Sin is sin no matter what it is. I just happen to beleive that through the cruxifiction, death, and resurrection of Christ, at 38 years old (when I was saved) that the sins of my past were washed clean and that I have a God who forgives me when I sin today. (Thursday Jul 31 | post #519)
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I was just pondering something. People on both side of this isssue are decent people. Yet when we discuss this issue, which is very personal to many, we all use hate filled speech and milgn those we do not even know. I may be called a bigot, a homophobe, intolerant, or ignorant for my beliefs but they are no less important to me as the beliefs of those the other side of the aisle are to them. And as I person that has been called all these things because of my belief in Jesus Christ and the Word of God, I must apologise to those I have offended with the statement I made about the earlier post. Upon re-reading the post I commented on, I must apologize for saying that "I could not have written it better myself." You know something, I could have. I could have written the same ideas in a way that would have been more gentle to the eyes and thoughts of others. Many of the poster's thoughts I may agree with but to be so malice in the presentation was not required. This debate will live on forever and most who are intrenched in their beliefs will never change their thoughts. So let's have a lively debate as an intellectural exersize, but let's not make it a diatribe. (Thursday Jul 31 | post #517)
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I apologize because I must admit I did not see the other 51 times the poster pasted the post. I do agree that cutting and pasting a post numourous times is not right. Once is enough. You call the statements bigoted when there is Truth in what was said. It may have been said with malice on the writers part, but there is truth in what was posted though I know it would unlikely that those in favor of accepting homosexually as no longer a sin would feel very uncomfortable about. About speaking these words in public, sometimes the truth hurts but in a forum speaking about traditional marraige, this truth has a right to be said. Those on the other side could also be accused of being abusive. As a Christian, I know many individuals who are homosexual. Many are fine people. Do I agree with there lifestyle? No. Do I bounce my bible off their head? No. Do I pray for there deliverance from sin? Yes. I may not have written in the way the poster did because I am not wired that way but points that were made are valid. As a Christian (now I am assuming you are because of the Romans Quote), do you believe that same-sex marraige has a place in todays society? Is it written anywhere in scripture that God accepted the gay lifestyle? No, it is not. It is written, as in Romans 13:9 (NLT), "The commandments, "Do not commit adultery," "Do not murder," "Do not steal," "Do not covet,"[a] and whatever other commandment there may be, are summed up in this one rule: "Love your neighbor as yourself." We should love our neighbor but no where in scriture does it say we need to accept there sinful ways. We are to pray for them and show Christ's love for the sinner as we are all sinners. I do not hate the person who is homosexual, but I do have disdain for the sin, as God would. As we speak about same-sex marriage vs. traditional marraige there are facts that would be considered uncomfortable for those who believe in same-sex marraige. God would call that personal conviction. (Thursday Jul 31 | post #516)
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What voices are they? (Thursday Jul 31 | post #515)
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