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Glasgow, KY

Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Hmmm....the debate continues. Who has read this book? Pawns in the Game http://www.jesus-i s-savior.com/Evils %20in%20Government /Communism/pawnsin thegame.pdf God has helped us all in Jesus name  (Aug 27, 2016 | post #159726)

Glasgow, KY

Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are Muslims, Hindus and many more that have unfortunately been discriminated against for their beliefs, and it could be from anyone who holds a preconceived idea about the person who holds the different belief, and decide to affect their lives in a negative way. Why are you intent on blaming only Christians for wrong motives and wrong doings? Yes, I have been discriminated against. I was selected for a work assignment. The facility where I worked has a reputation of being the best place to work; thus, I was excited about the challenge. After the work shift, most of the shift met at one bar but I don't go to bars. They would ask me, I would gently decline. Next, a dance club but I don't go to clubs-gently I declined. They went out pretty often during the week and drank alcohol often. One person who I worked closely with asked me why I didn't go out with them and I shared that I was a Christian, and I don't drink, go to bars or clubs. As well, my family is expecting me at home. The next day, that person was acting strangely, as well as a few others. The one I worked closely with seems to have shared what I said, and from their behavior they were offended. Many of them were no longer friendly and openly rude. Days later, my assignment was cut short. Another experience, this was a judicial assignment. We were a team of four. All started well, but then I started to notice some under-handed occurrences. Documents past the deadline would be in my folder when they were not there before. Files were purposely mixed up, when they arrived separated to cause confusion and a number of other incidents. Temporarily, during some renovation, our team of four was all in one room. During this time, none of the above incidents occurred-zero because we were all together and someone was always in the room we shared. I left the room to pull some files and when I was nearing the room, I heard lots of swearing and profanity...I was shocked because I have not heard anyone speak this way for the duration of the assignment. If no one asks me, I don't usually tell people, I am a Christian but they just know. I now realized that they have probably been wanting to talk like this all along and my not talking like that, in their minds restricted them. We soon returned to our original work areas and the underhanded harassment began from different directions. Irregardless, I finished the assignment but it was not easy. Why? I believe there are things I should not do and don't; and, some of those things are things they like to do. Lastly, there were 10 minute breaks given throughout the day. Many people took 15 and more minute breaks but I took my 10 minutes and returned back to work. Different people would come to me and say, take 15 minutes and I would tell them I can't just sit there past time (on purpose) knowing that my break is 10 minutes. Would you believe that other associates became angry with me and stop speaking to me? There is nothing wrong with being different but to so many these days, someone being different brings them discomfort or offense. Why? I really just can't say. I just know the belief to do what is right has become harder for many to stand on. It is just easier to do what everyone else is doing, even if it is wrong. Due to our beliefs, many Christians we cannot just do what everyone else is doing, there is no desire to do what everyone else is doing, especially if it goes against the Word of God.  (Jul 29, 2015 | post #149478)

Glasgow, KY

Bible study rules for public schools proposed

I don't worship a man, and I strive to keep my life free from idols of any kind. I do worship God, the Creator of heaven earth, you, me and all of mankind, through Jesus Christ. I have a God-centered worldview. To each his/her own.  (Jul 29, 2015 | post #149476)

Glasgow, KY

Bible study rules for public schools proposed

I have no wish or desire to persecute anyone anywhere, nor do I want the same in return. In a previous response, I answered this quested and attached a link. Additonally, it can easily be googled...Christia ns persecuted in the USA  (Jul 29, 2015 | post #149475)

Glasgow, KY

Bible study rules for public schools proposed

For years, I have seen an increase in litigation directed against Christians for daring to live out their faith and there are countless attempts to criminalize Christian behavior. In fact, much have been put in place in our culture to slowly erode the religious liberty of Christians. I know of some cases...one a couple was having Bible study in their home and there was action taken against then to prohibit them from holding the Bible study. There is another where a Christian was fired for having their Bible on their desk; yet, another fired for reading the Bible on their lunch break. The truth doesn't need a back up, I just share it as it is. http://www.christi anpost.com/news/fr anklin-graham-warn s-american-christi ans-persecution-is -coming-135348/ In actuality, they are not all lumped together as Christians. There are many that call themselves Christians but they do not follow Jesus Christ, they follow another. Many Baptist are Christians but Baptist is a denomination. Latter Day Saints and Catholicism are religions that say they are Christians but they do not follow Jesus Christ. What I believe too, is also what God says...so there. You say there is no science but there is so much that we, as humans, do not yet understand it all. There is evidence on many levels but you seem to only accept what fits into what you choose to believe. Many people even try to make science their god. Let us not go around in circles and just respectfully disagree,  (Jul 29, 2015 | post #149474)

Glasgow, KY

Bible study rules for public schools proposed

I have said it numerous times already throughout this thread, in many ways. We are going to have to agree to disagree because we are heading in a direction that has been discussed. Just because the world system says...Christianit y is categorized under the umbrella of religion. What makes it not a religion is something that you can only experience for yourself. My speaking on it from the truth standpoint is what I am doing and will continue to do. My saying it is not is just a sufficient, as your saying the Genesis version of creation is false. Correction, the Genesis account of creation is 100% truth. It is the Theory of Evolution that is false and a flat out lie, that has deceived so many people. This theory that has been perpetrated as a fact of science, when it is just a bunch of assumptions trying to pull in science and processes to give the illusion that it is true. Evolutionism is a religion and it is a false one at that. There more to it than just being told something. I don't just believe something because someone told me. I am responsible for my own thoughts, speech and actions, so there is time and study (and more) that is involved. If is not favorable standing on the truth but nonetheless, that is where I rather be and remain. Gullible is not me, maybe it is you who haven't asked enough questions or even the right questions regarding the one true God and then everything else? Maybe your own opinions have become your god? Maybe? I can't speak to all of what the organizations speak to ( can you?) but the information that I read and shared was relevant and credible.  (Jul 29, 2015 | post #149473)

Glasgow, KY

Bible study rules for public schools proposed

It is satan that uses the people that allow him to use them to persecute blacks. Blacks, African-Americans are being persecuted by people with the spirit of discrimination, racism and hatred; and they think, speak and do the evils that satan influence them to do against African-Americans. Some people say they have the mark of Cain and whatever else to probably justify the slave trade but there is no justification. Some people also say that African-Americans are among the original Israelites and many don't want them to know who they really are which is another current of the persecution unleashed upon them. People say many things but it is still our responsibility to study and research issues to know what is and what is not true. It is dangerous physically, etc. and eternally to just accept what people say is truth. Choose to be sued or provide a service without prejudice? Ok. Doing the right thing is not always comfortable or convenient, sometimes it is very costly but very much worth it just the same. This world is perverted. Don't just stop at some churches and those that are not open in the name of Jesus, there is more. Do you know the description the Bible gives of Babylon the Great? Satan is the god of this world because God gave it to mankind to have dominion over; and when mankind sinned, they gave dominion to satan. Jehovah God is the ruler of the universe.  (Jul 29, 2015 | post #149472)

Glasgow, KY

Bible study rules for public schools proposed

It's the system and many things are being interpreted in perverted ways. True ministers that are called by God do not train in lies or false ideological concepts. Those ministers who are not called by God are about a mission that does destroy lives. The fake anything does not take away from the real. Jesus spoke out against the religious yoke that was placed on people's necks by the religious leaders. You say the accounts in the Bible are fictional to you. People read in their free time books that are fiction, non-fiction and the full spectrum. I want to ask, have you read the Bible for yourself, Genesis to Revelation? I don't see the truth as harsh, definitely it can be painful and not easy to swallow at times but better the truth than lies any time. You are free to speak you mind, it just should still be in a respectful manner. Whether one agrees or disagrees, there should still be decency. I personally am not involved in a sacred cult or cultish beliefs, no lies, no brainwashing. If someone smells bad, yes you would tell them because hopefully you'd want someone to tell you if you smelled bad. Telling them could be done in a tactful and discreet manner. Depending on the relationship with the person, the information will be considered embarrassing but helpful or insulting and rejected; but, at least you have tried to help. Christianity, the relationship with Jehovah, the creator of heaven, earth and mankind through Jesus Christ is truth. There is no twisting of any reality. I derive nothing whatsoever from lies except unwanted consequences. Someone recently shared this with me. It fits the discussion; thus, I would like to share it here: https://www.youtub e.com/watch?v=dz2L TIkWIB0  (Jul 29, 2015 | post #149471)

Glasgow, KY

Bible study rules for public schools proposed

continued final>> >>>> Revelation 21:1-8 (KJV) 21 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. 2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. 4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. 5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. 6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. 7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. 8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.  (Jul 28, 2015 | post #149470)

Glasgow, KY

Bible study rules for public schools proposed

continued If one takes one part of the scriptures and not the whole, one will enter into error. 1 Corinthians 12:27-3 (KJV) 27 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular. 28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues. 29 Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles? 30 Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret? 31 But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way. The scriptures you shared previously but in full context: 1 Corinthians 13 (KJV) 13 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. 2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. 3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing. 4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, 5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; 6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; 7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. 8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. 9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. 10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. 11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. 13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity. >>>>co ntinued  (Jul 28, 2015 | post #149469)

Glasgow, KY

Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Goodness...atheist s are not demons and I have no such admission, nor do I personally have any say in their final destination. It is the atheist choice whether or not he/she wants to spend eternity with God or eternity without God. Nor are Christians demons because they are carrying out the instructions left for them by Jesus Christ. I suggest you keep your rudeness and respond without the verbal attacks. If you are uncertain what I said and what you are responding to, please re-read my comment for clarity. I confess that I believe and have a relationship Jehovah, through Jesus Christ. Again, re-read my response because you have twisted many things and have merged them together to say what you mean but what I said. Jesus Christ commissioned us to do what he did when he walked the earth. And, what did Jesus do when he walked the earth is a question I pose to you? >>>contin ued  (Jul 28, 2015 | post #149468)

Glasgow, KY

Bible study rules for public schools proposed

The garbage is not emerging from my fingertips. Nor, am I mislead. I accepted Jesus Christ as a kid but alot of what I saw, heard and was taught by people regarding Christianity was mixed up. So much had to be corrected, was and is. The fact is that I am more free in Christ, is so many ways than one could imagine. I agree 100%, freedom of religion does not include brainwashing or mind imprisonment. True, some people may be predisposed to the things you mentioned but it is not a healthy emotionally, mentally, physically, spiritually or financially.  (Jul 28, 2015 | post #149467)

Glasgow, KY

Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Continued> >>>> I have in no way advocated teaching religion in school. Unfortunately, what cannot be proven factual is already being taught in schools and has been for years. Even, when much of what is being taught about it has been proven to be false. It is not science or a scientific fact, it is a religion that is whole-heartedly accepted into schools and force fed to generations of children. It is the Theory of Evolution. I against religion being taught in the schools. I do say that the Bible should be taught in the school in a way that does not include preaching or indoctrination. It could also be placed on the list of books to read throughout the school year, in addition to some other possible options. Christianity is not a cultish false ideology. True, many need deprogramming not only in regards to religion but many areas of life. You shared some good points.  (Jul 28, 2015 | post #149466)

Glasgow, KY

Bible study rules for public schools proposed

I want to first ask a question. Is Greek mythology still being taught in the public school system? Are there any others beside it being taught? Parents do have a responsibility to their child(ren) and brainwashing nor abuse should be involved. Religious brainwashing whether one is young or old should not be in use. I have read and heard painful stories and testimonies of those deceived by religion. I have seen first-hand how some use religion to accomplish things that have absolutely nothing to do with Jehovah God. Religion is not only a mess, as you expressed but I say it is dangerous and deadly. I agree, leave religion out of the schools; rather take religion which is the Theory of Evolution, out of the schools. You stated, "As far as teaching religion in school (or anywhere) it would not be appropriate to teach children information that has not been proven to be factual." Continued> >>>>  (Jul 28, 2015 | post #149465)

Glasgow, KY

Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Christianity is not a religion and does not idolize any man. The remaining of what you shared, I see your point of view, though I do not agree with all. I would also say that evolutionism and atheism falls in the true sense of the word religion. I won't get started on the evolutionism religion (which includes the theory of evolution which is not scientific fact) that has been shoved upon generations of youth, at tax payers expense.  (Jul 28, 2015 | post #149464)