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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

I once dated a woman who said she had a burning bush. She did. And I had to get a couple shots as a consequence.  (4 hrs ago | post #677238)

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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

Someone mentioned you and Harold. You weren't a Camping follower, were you? Those guys were total nuts; you just seem to be plain nuts.  (4 hrs ago | post #677235)

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The Christian Atheist debate

Dumbass? You're confused. You claimed to know who "we" is in the document, 'tardhttp://www.to pix.com/forum/tops tories/TC9AUDQPFH0 VA4URI/post72580 So if you want to separate "we" from it's appositive, "the people of the United States", then you're still a 'tard, 'tard. Need a re-do?  (4 hrs ago | post #72628)

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According to George Washington, in his official letter of transmission, the folks whose delegates would ratify or reject the Constitution were "the People" . That's why Washington's transmittal letter said "that it should afterwards be submitted to a Convention of Delegates, chosen in each State *by the People*". As delegates of "the People" they were acting on behalf of and speaking for "the People". Those delegates were not "the People" but merely representatives thereof. But you know better than George Washington, eh, 'tard?  (6 hrs ago | post #72595)

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Eubanks.  (6 hrs ago | post #72592)

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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

Apologetics. Yes. There was a library in Alexandria, an urban area with a cadre of educated elites. And we have thousands and thousands of scraps of texts from the period, written by those with access to at least some education. But the small percentage of elites with writing skills from that time does not erase the vast majority of folks then without those skills -- commoners such as fishermen and carpenters. And, yes, there were scribes for hire in that time and region -- and a need for them -- because the vast majority of folks were unable to read or write themselves. But scribes do not create sophisticated foreign language literature from the musings of illiterates and have that literature be anything more than the creation primarily of those scribes. Either John's connection to the temple is pretend or the story that he and his family were fishermen is pretend. If you assume the story in John 18:15 is based in reality, the unnamed disciple would not have been a fisher from Galilee, but a well-connected follower from Jerusalem. Some have speculated John Mark, son of Mary of Jerusalem. I don't have any need to assume John 18:15 is true any more than the stories of Jesus reading in a synagogue or writing on the ground are true. And, if you assume the temple story of the unnamed disciple refers to the Apostle John, it runs afoul of Acts 4 anyway, which describes John and Peter as illiterate and ignorant and intimates the temple authorities had no familiarity with either, not to mention the synoptic gospels' portrayal of these men as commoners. Seems you need Chess' crash courses after all.  (Sunday | post #676959)

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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

Incorrecthttp://bl ogforthelordjesusc urrentevents.com/2 012/04/02/bart-ehr man-on-literacy-in -the-first-century / Commoners in 1st century Palestine almost never could read or write. They were illiterate, lucky to scrawl their own names. Jesus supposedly was the son of a tradesman, a carpenter by tradition, about as low as you could go in antiquity and still be employed. Yet two of his supposed brothers are credited in your canon each with a rather sophisticated *Greek* text. Peter and John, supposed fishermen, also were very low on the economic totem pole. Yet they are credited with seven *Greek* canonical texts between them. The Galilean fishing economy was stacked against lowly fishers. They had to pay for a license, pay taxes on their income, sell through approved channels, and pay tolls for use of ports, roads, and bridges. The system was designed to ensure the Palestinian authorities reaped the bulk of the benefits of the sea's harvest, with the workers earning only a subsistence or slightly more, depending on status. Those folks had no money to pay for a classical education for their children, one that included Greek literacy. No doubt that is why the anonymous author of Luke-Acts identifies Peter and John in Acts 4:13 as illiterate. Writing in the 80's, the author didn't know that seven Greek texts would later be falsely ascribed or forged in the names of those two fishermen and canonized. Jewish commoners in first century Palestine -- Aramaic speakers -- writing sometimes very sophisticated Greek texts? Didn't happen.  (Sunday | post #676907)

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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

In truth, I considered it rather generous.  (Sunday | post #676905)

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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

Your loss. That GED alone will only take you so far -- bagging groceries, stocking shelves, asking whether folks wanna supersize their order, etc.  (Saturday | post #676873)

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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

You desperately need to attend Chess Jurist University: http://www.topix.c om/forum/ncaa/duke -basketball/TOCO8T EGNA8I5JT63/post10 21604 Now don't come back until you've attended all five courses, lest you end up without your diploma.  (Saturday | post #676869)

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The Christian Atheist debate

You're bleeding on my carpet again, fool.  (Monday Aug 8 | post #65715)

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The Christian Atheist debate

Said the fool with copper scrolls from James about Jesus.  (Monday Aug 8 | post #65709)

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The Christian Atheist debate

Truly.  (Monday Aug 8 | post #65708)

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The Christian Atheist debate

I don't do childish well.  (Monday Aug 8 | post #65644)

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The Christian Atheist debate

Incorrect, fool. No historian I am aware of is on record as saying, "Don't get angry; get good." And it wouldn't change that they are my words, though they are indebted to ubiquitous similar sayings such as, "Don't get mad, get smart." You may claim otherwise, but claims of Topix's idiots don't count for much other than amusement. And no, you don't have to cite a source for a common sayinghttp://writi ngcenter.unlv.edu/ writing/plagiarism .html 'Tard  (Monday Aug 8 | post #65611)