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Skate Bored

There is an enormous rivalry building for this season's Nationals between Evan Lysacek and Johnny Weir. Both are athletlic and artistic skaters with totally different styles, who, inspite of the CoP, are very interesting to watch. I don't buy that the CoP has created cookie cutter programs. Look at this season's Grand Prix Final and the varied and interesting programs skated there. Takahashi, Lambiel, Yu-na Kim, Asada, Meissner, Belbin & Agosto, and many others are creating very intereting programs. I am tired of hearing that criticism of the judging system. The problem with the judging system is that it is anonymous, the causal fan doesn't understand it, and the program component scores should be reduced from the current five to three. That is the area the judges are now misusing. Getting rid of Cinquanto would be an enormous help in getting skating back on track. He just doesn't have very much credibility any longer. Skating is in a transition, but if you look at the pool of skaters in the US, we have some excellent talent moving toward the 2010 Olympics. Let's just hope NBC gets it right in broadcasting the 2008 Nationals as they have promised to do.  (Jan 6, 2008 | post #9)

Evan Lysacek

Champ takes figure skating to extremes with stunts

I do think it is about time that figure skating be recognized for the sport that it is. It takes a great deal of training and athletic ability to perform today. Double jumps are required today at the juvenile and intermediate level, and triple jumps at the novice level. The sport is becomeing harder and harder. My concern about the level of difficulty, is the injury that can occur, especially to a young skater who is still growing. Hip injuries are beginning to be a real problem. It has taken Tara Lipinski out of the game and side lined Alexei Yagudin. It is a very difficult sport that requires hours and hours and years and years of training, both on and off the ice. It definitely is not for sissies.  (Aug 8, 2007 | post #1)

Tanith Belbin

Is U.S. figure skating in a slump?

Well, I think it makes a more level playing field. If the state cannot sponsor them and provide all of their training, that makes them more equal to the athletes from other countries. The country that is really training and developing skaters, especially as we are seeing in pairs, is China. In China, children as young as 5 years old, enter the sports academy. They live there, go to school, receive training, conditioning, the whole works.  (Aug 8, 2007 | post #32)

Tanith Belbin

Kimmie Meissner ice show to boost Cool Kids

I hope there will be a positive reponse to Kimmie's show. It is for a very good cause and looks like there will be a very good cast of skaters. I didn't see Evan Lysacek's name mentioned in the article. I was under the impression that he was appearing also.  (Aug 8, 2007 | post #1)

Tanith Belbin

Champions put rules on thin ice

You people aren't even making comments that make sense. What are you doing here? You are very annoying. Either contribute something sane to the discussion, or go someplace where your gibberish is appreciated.  (Aug 8, 2007 | post #14)

Tanith Belbin

Michelle Kwan's on the mend

I know this is an old topic, but I am totally shocked to read all this Kwan bashing!! Michelle Kwan is a phenomenon who has become "a legend in her own time." She has accomplished more than any other figure skater in present history. Not having an Olympic gold medal is not the end of the world. Kurt Browning, 4 time World Champion, does not have one. Look what he has contributed to the sport. All Paul Wylie has is one Olympic silver medal. He could never pull it off, but Olympics 1992 was his "One Moment in Time." But Paul had been around for a long time, and he still is around, and will be remembered as one of skating's greats. Tara and Sarah will not be remembered for anything. I attended 2003 Worlds (year following Olympics where Sarah had her moment). Sarah was a disaster. She hadn't won Nationals. Michelle got out there and skated such a fantastic program in front of a totally packed arena. No judge was holding her up. She skated her heart and soul out. Sarah was down the ladder among the no names. Pitiful for an Olympic champion. So she won an Olympic gold medal. Big woop. In my eyes it is not worth very much, because she did not do much to earn it. Tara on the other hand was a National and World Champion. So I believe she qualified a bit more. After 2003, Sarah dropped out of competition. Smart move. Otherwise she would continue to embarrass herself. She couldn't pit herself against Michelle or Sasha. She didn't have the artistry. Neither does Emily. Petitioning the ISU or USOC because of an injury is in the rule book. Michelle was not doing anything out of the ordinary. It is something that an athlete is allowed to do. She did not manipulate anything. I can't understand why people on this board are resenting her so much. Who did she prevent from moving ahead? We all know Sasha could never skate a clean program. And big deal that Sarah did not win Skate America back in whatever year. I believe an Olympic Champion has an obligation to represent the US and contribute something to the sport that is going to improve the sport. Tara and Sarah did not stick around long enough to make any impression whatsoever. Michelle will always be remembered as one of the greats. Get used to it people. That is the way that it is. I don't know what you are so mad about. The girl had to withdraw from the Olympics. Isn't that enough revenge for you? And has Emily ever done anything except replace Michelle? And I can tell you right now, from looking at the present competition, Emily never will do anything more than she has done right now. In my opinion Emily skates like a zamboni. No finesse in her style whatsoever. She throws herself into her jumps and lands them with a thud. And has a real problem with her triple flip. You betcha a healthy Michelle would have been able to place higher than Emily Hughes at the Olympics. But unfortunately, we were denied the opportunity to find out. The ladies competition at the Olympics, as far as I am concerned was a complete dud. Michelle could have outskated Arakawa anyday.  (Aug 8, 2007 | post #41)

Tanith Belbin

Is U.S. figure skating in a slump?

Under the former Soviet system, athletes and coaches were taken care of by the government. Once the Soviet system was eliminated, athletes and coaches found themselves in the same situation as American skaters. Unless you are elite skaters and have obtained sponsors, you are on your own. Coaches came to US in order to be able to continue coaching and to make a living. Skaters did the same thing. Russian ice was not available and was too costly. The "old guard" of Russian skaters have pretty much moved on. The last that we are seeing who were products of that system in their early years are Plushenko, Slutskaya, etc. The Russian Federation offered them both tremendous pay outs to resume competitive skating. Evgeni said yes, but Irina is going to start a family. It will be a while before Russia is able to rebuild a team. The elite athletes in US are subsidized by USFSA. They receive their envelopes in May according to their ranking. The GP series pays out prize money on down to 5th place (I think), and so does Worlds. Many skaters at that level also receive endorsement contracts, so their expensives are usually taken care of. The ones further down the ladder are the ones still dependent on their families or private sponsorships, scholarships, or funding from their local clubs. Many skaters at the junior level, etc. give lessons that help to fund their skating. Also any money they earn by participating in sanctioned shows and other events, goes in the fund to pay for their skating costs. I am familiar with all of this because my two daughters skated.  (Aug 8, 2007 | post #30)

Tanith Belbin

Are evan lysacek and tanith belbin dating?

They say they are the perfect couple because, both being very goal oriented elite figure skaters, they understand each other very well and know the ups and downs they both face. Also, Evan's personality off the ice is very different from his focused, dedicated, on ice persona. Tanith says he is hysterical and can always cheer her up. I don't think there is anything fake about them. They spent the summer doing special promotions for the COI tour in many cities, and participated in special events at local rinks with kids. They seemed to work very well together. I also hope it lasts. They are two of skating's "beautiful people" in more ways than one.  (Aug 8, 2007 | post #10)

Evan Lysacek

Johnny Weir Fails In Bid For 4th Straight U.S. Men's Figu...

What on earth are you people talking about? Nothing that I can see remotely relates to the topic. Get a life and start making comments that make sense. All you are doing is slinging hash at each other. Both Johnny and Evan are elite athletes and should be treated as such with respect for what they have achieved. What have you people ever achieved at the same level? I hope you have noticed that Johnny has done some serious rethinking and evaluating of his career, and has made a major coaching change. It will remain to be seen what happens next....if he will be able to pull it together and maintain the discipline to really train. His new Russian coach will be no Priscilla Hill, as great a coach as she is.  (Jul 6, 2007 | post #20)

Evan Lysacek

American figure skaters can't stay on their feet

Eddie, The statement above by Sk8r Girl is not bad grammar. It is an idiom. Russians didn't win any medals at Worlds this past season either, unless in pairs? I don't really remember. They are really hurting for skaters. They have offered Plushenko and Slutskya big money to come back. Evgeni is, but I understand that Irina is to become a mother.  (Jun 5, 2007 | post #3)

Evan Lysacek

Is U.S. figure skating in a slump?

I do not believe US figure skating is in a slump. National Champion Evan Lysacek has a well planned strategy for moving up the ladder, and I think we will for sure see him back on the World podium 2008. Kimmie Meisner is also a talent and left Worlds this past season with a fire in her eye to come back skating to music she was comfortable with and be really competitive. I don't think we can underestimate her. She has fabulous technique and her skating style is maturing. We could use some better ladies skaters on top with Kimmie. Ice dance will continue to do well for a long time. And it is true that we have some very talented juniors. I think our only weakness right now is in pairs. I just don't see much excitement going on there. But I don't see any problem with US as we build toward 2010.  (Jun 5, 2007 | post #5)

Evan Lysacek

Champions put rules on thin ice

I did not attend COI this year, but did attend Marshall's Figure Skating Showcase where the skaters debuted the programs they would skate on tour. I thought Belbin and Agosto's program was good. I have watched on tape and on You Tube. He is not all over her and it is not perverted. The lifts that they do are similar to their competition lifts except for one. They just did some sexy moves other than lifts. I don't think there is anything wrong with that. It was entertaining. And I thought Evan Lysacek was really great!!  (Jun 5, 2007 | post #9)

Evan Lysacek

Johnny Weir Fails In Bid For 4th Straight U.S. Men's Figu...

I take issue with the statement "Evan's bland soul-less skating." In addition, if you have ever read anything about Evan, you would know that he does not have "carefully constructed media spin (which) is laughable." Evan is a total package skater. He has a tremendous work-ethic with total dedication to training. Something Johnny woefully lacks. Johnny's natural talent carried him only so far on the national scene, but left him flat on the international scene (unless you didn't notice). Now that it is time to play hard ball, Johnny cannot measure up. He had better face it if he wants to go any further in this sport. It is not even about emulating the Russians. If he did, he would be training as the Russians trained. Furthermore, Johnny hates the new, or rather, not so new now, CoP. The judging system is not going to be changed for him. Evan is the all-around skater who can skate a technical, plus a "soulful " program and win points in both areas. Evan also likes to be on the cutting edge of competition. He is truly a competitive skater. Competition brings out the best in him. He does not spend his down time modeling in runway shows, appearing in embarrasing photo shoots, attending Oscar parties. Before a major competition you will find him at the Toyota Center in LA training. Whereas Johnny can be found in NYC or Boston doing whatever, and, of course, shopping. I do not fault him his interests. But in this sport there is a choice to be made. Either choose to train and compete or choose to go pro and skate ice shows and pursue other interests. I think Johnny is better suited for the latter. Evan does have carefully constructed goals to get him where he wants to be and that is National, World, and Olympic Champion. I believe he has what it takes to do it. Johnny needs to have re-evaluated his goals, his lifestyle, and his training discipline for this coming season. If he wants any success at all, I sincerely hope that he has. He has a major talent and I think it would be a shame to throw it away before it is fully developed. But, sad to say, I predict Johnny is finished. I just don't think he has what it takes to fight his way to the top again. He would have to come out and be absolutely, totally beyond brilliant to dethrone Evan Lysacek. Evan has become the USFSA's new poster boy, and they like it that way.....something that Johnny never was.  (Jun 5, 2007 | post #9)

Evan Lysacek

Hughes loses gold after tumble on ice

I think Emily would be better off NOT to follow in her sister's footsteps. Sarah never won a national or world title and her Olympic gold was a fluke. The following year, 2003, I was at World's and watched Michelle Kwan claim yet another World title while Sarah was down in the pack somewhere because she "flutzed " the week away. After that she was never on the competitive scene again. It is a shame, that as an Olympic champion, Sarah has done nothing to leave her mark or make a contribution to the sport of figure skating. So if you admire Emily, I would think it would be better to look for Emily to exceed her sister's footsteps.  (Feb 16, 2007 | post #15)