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Buffalo, NY

Obama is a Fraud

Nice comeback! Ad hominem because you can't argue with my post? I didn't really expect much more from you though. You do have a history of ignoring facts and evidence, don't you?  (Aug 5, 2009 | post #167)

Buffalo, NY

Obama is a Fraud

This has been so thoroughly debunked by even the most extreme birther sites. Even Joseph Farrah backpeddeled and said he thinks it's a fake after the numerous errors, inconsistencies and obvious jokes were pointed out to him. Of course that didn't stop him from posting it on WND in the first place to scam you loons out of your money. Keep it up. It's quite clear from this issue and others that you're a strong right-winger. Anyone can be registered as a democrat, that doesn't mean that they follow the ideology, especially considering registration occurs during high school. Hell, I originally registered as a Republican. Now the thought of being associated with the party in it's current state makes my stomach turn. No one here believes that you are a democrat, either you're "concern trolling" to try to get democrats to sympathize with your racist cause, or you don't believe what you're saying at all and just are a republican trying to make dems look bad. I highly doubt anyone is falling for either tactic.  (Aug 5, 2009 | post #166)

Buffalo, NY

Obama is a Fraud

Or, it could be that she never said that! If you listen to (or read) the entire transcript of that interview, she states clearly that he was born in Hawaii. Didn't it ever occur to you that it was strange that only partial recordings or transcripts were being provided by birther websites? Don't you people ever bother to look things up for yourself or do you just continue to regurgitate whatever is fed to you?  (Aug 5, 2009 | post #164)

Buffalo, NY

Obama is a Fraud

Are you nuts? I'm asking seriously, because Obama did no such thing. As far as being "charged " with anything, even if some nutter did try, that isn't the same thing as being convicted.  (Aug 5, 2009 | post #163)

Buffalo, NY

Obama is a Fraud

Treason? Even if a law was found that made him ineligible, how does that make him guilty of treason? At best it would be a misunderstanding of the constitution, or that his mother lied, depending on which birther conspiracy we're going with (you guys can't seem to make up your minds on that, can you?). Neither constitutes treason. Add treason to the list of words that you need to learn the definitions of.  (Aug 2, 2009 | post #131)

Buffalo, NY

Obama is a Fraud

Link doesn't work. OMG the powers that be must have shut down the website because they don't want us to know the truth!!!111! /sarc  (Aug 2, 2009 | post #130)

Buffalo, NY

Obama is a Fraud

Oh really? Let's see. What is simplest? Either A) Obama is a natural born citizen or B) there is a massive conspiracy involving pretty much all federal and Hawaii government officials, both democrat AND republican, with not one person coming clean to leak "the truth"? Not to mention even the extreme right pundits who hate Obama must be in on it as well! Oh, and this has all been planned since 4 days after Obama's birth when the notice was printed in the paper. Maybe a prophecy was given that declared Obama would become president one day if his parents lied about where he was born? OMG the supernatural is in on it too! Give me a break. Perhaps while you were looking up what Occam's Razor was, you should have taken the time to learn was "simple" means.  (Aug 2, 2009 | post #129)

Buffalo, NY

Obama is a Fraud

1. The information on the certificate of live birth is drawn directly from the vault copy of the original form, therefore the information is the same. 2. If you think the information is a lie on the certificate of live birth, then why would you be satisfied that the long form isn't a fake as well? 3. The White House realizes that nothing will satisfy the nutters, and so they won't even bother. Obama has provided all of the information required of him, which has been examined and confirmed as genuine by multiple sources. 4. Occam's Razor. Look it up.  (Jul 29, 2009 | post #84)

Buffalo, NY

Obama is a Fraud

sigh* wrong. The law was changed and made retroactive. US CODE: Title 8, 1401. Nationals and citizens of United States at birth (g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 288 of title 22 by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person http://www.law.cor nell.edu/uscode/8/ 1401.html In any case, it's a moot point considering Obama *was* born in the US.  (Jul 29, 2009 | post #83)

Buffalo, NY

Obama is a Fraud

Wrong. In order to be considered a natural born citizen, you only have to have been born here, even if both of your parents are foreign. Obama was born in Hawaii even if you don't want to believe it. How else do you explain the birth notifications in the Hawaii paper? Were they part of the conspiracy way back then? Also, because it doesn't warrant a separate post, yes, confirming that someone was born in a hospital *does* break privacy issues. It's part of medical records and that info could only be given to Obama himself, or his parents. Also, even if Obama were not born in the US, he would still be a "natural born" citizen simply because his mother was a citizen. Sorry, your guy lost. Maybe you should focus on convincing the voting public that those on the right *aren't* a bunch of lunatics if you want Obama out of office in 2013.  (Jul 29, 2009 | post #74)

Buffalo, NY

Are Black people more violent than White?

Correlation =/= Causation. It may be that there are more black violent criminals than white violent criminals, but that doesn't mean there is something inherent in being black that makes them more likely to be violent. Like was stated earlier in this thread, upbringing has a great deal to do with it. If children frequently witness violence and do not have a steady home life and positive role models, then of course they are more likely to turn out to be violent themselves. What causes these situations? Poverty. Unfortunately there are still disproportionately more blacks living in poverty situations than whites, leading to disproportionately more black criminals. In order to determine if there is some "aggressivene ss gene" linked to the genes causing increased skin pigment, you'd have to control for all other possible factors. For example, instead of simply comparing "black vs. white", you'd have to compare black vs white ensuring all participants come from the same socio-economic group, same family structure, same education levels, etc.  (Jul 28, 2009 | post #36)

Buffalo, NY

Obama is a Fraud

Not confirming" that he was born there is not the same as "Denying " it. You should know that whether or not Obama was born at a hospital, they cannot say either way as they would be breaking privacy laws to do so. Furthermore, it's entirely possible the hospital where he was born no longer exists. My birth hospital closed a few years after my birth. Obama is considerably older than I am making it even more likely this could have happened.  (Jul 28, 2009 | post #62)

Buffalo, NY

Obama is a Fraud

The information on the certificate of live birth is drawn straight from the vault copy of the original birth certificate. Therefore, if the certificate of live birth says he was born in Honolulu, so to does the long form. I wonder why you seem to think that the long form would quiet the birthers. After all, in order for the birth certificate he has shown to declare him born in Hawaii, the state department of health would have to be in on this conspiracy to doctor it, or change the true info, would they not? If that is the case, why then could they not simply doctor the long form as well? As far as actually retrieving the long form goes, it isn't possible. You can check the request form online yourself if you don't believe me. There is no place to specify that you want a different format, and the certificate of live birth is what is sent to everyone who requests a copy. Having recently requested a copy of my own birth certificate, I can say that the same is true of New York as well. Does that mean I wouldn't be eligible to run for president?  (Jul 28, 2009 | post #61)

Buffalo, NY

Poll: Obama Approval Rating at New Low

Weird. The only reason I slightly disapprove of the job Obama is doing is because I think he isn't liberal enough. For example, I'm quite disappointed that he hasn't repealed DOMA or DADT yet. You have to be pretty darn far to the right to consider Obama "too liberal". :x  (Jul 28, 2009 | post #9)

Buffalo, NY

an attempt at a real discussion

Awww, are you upset because no one wants to feed your racist fear mongering? Anyway, the mature, intelligent people were talking... shoo like a good little boy.  (Jan 9, 2009 | post #328)

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