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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

I haven't been sleeping, Dave, just had other things to do, and lost interest in spending every day with people who refuse to use their own brains, but would rather repeat rote that they have heard, and I have heard, since young. There still is not a shred of evidence to support any beliefs relating to deities and supernatural events, and there is much information to prove that what man has held as truths throughout the ages is, in fact, not true at all.  (May 12, 2014 | post #229078)

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Brian, with respect, human beings have developed very advanced brains. Some of us try to use those brains; others can't be bothered to.  (Mar 13, 2014 | post #35836)

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Gay Marriage - Russell Springs, KY

Brian, how does giving gays the legal right to marry affect your marrying a member of the opposite sex?  (Mar 9, 2014 | post #35822)

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Gay Marriage - Russell Springs, KY

Living in a mythical world can be fun, as a child, Patty, but when we grow up, some of us recognize that Santa Claus and Easter Bunnies, and 6 days Creations were children's tales, told by people at the time, when adults had the knowledge of toddlers today.  (Mar 9, 2014 | post #35821)

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Brian, do we live in a world of no change, where everything is done as it has always been done, based on the limited experience and knowledge of people of hundreds and thousands of years ago, or do we find new and better ways of doing things, such that some day man might learn how to transport other men through the air, and, imagine this, even travel to other places in the universe, such as the moon, and Mars? Quite a stretch, isn't it, to think that man's ways might change? Brian, we have come down out of the trees, and walk, most of the time, on two legs. We can even converse in intelligible words (if we are Canadian). Perhaps, in time, Brian, man might even discover that the limited ideas that man had back in the 1700s, did not take into account everything that man might later learn, and that we might decide that those men were smart for their time, but in the 21st century really have very little relevance at all. Just maybe, Brian. Perhaps opening your mind to explore what you think and to reason as to why you think that way could be enlightening. Is that possible, Brian, or do you want to stay back with your ancestors?  (Mar 9, 2014 | post #35820)

Atheism

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

You may be making a few valid points and I am pleased that you have stated that believing means you could be wrong. It is hard to argue that. I don't believe there is a God, because so far man has never had conclusive evidence of there being one, and the things we have held to be true, which are taken from the book that fundamentalists will say is without error, because God authored or inspired it, have had some parts conclusively proved to not be true, so if the Bible being 100% is necessary for the proof of God (which I don't see it needs to be because very few Christians actually believe that anyway) then there cannot be a God. I do not have a belief in God but evidence to prove there is a God would certainly change my mind very quickly not because I was wanting to save myself from Hell, because I would not be interested in a God that had a condition of belief being that one goes to Hell for not believing, but just simply because something that has been shown to be true, I accept as being true. One of the monumental changes in human thinking occurred when man had differing opinions about the earth being flat, which to people, who had limited access to anything on the earth except within close walking distance, would seem to make sense (the earth would appear flat), but once it was known 100% that the earth is not flat at all but is spherical in shape, then anyone still believing in a flat earth would just be someone who had no education, and they would be 100% wrong in what they believed. Because it is impossible to prove non-existence of a non thing (such as proving God doesn't exist) there is always the possibility of that existence in spite of the likelihood that all of the "facts" that people now use to prove God exists will one day be shown to be false, and since no one in human history has yet had evidence which would be accepted by all other people at that time as true, then it seems most probably that God, at least, as believers think God is, does not exist, and that all claims of its existence were fabricated by man. We do know simply from the characteristics of human memory, telling of stories, and histories of other religions, that man did create most of the 'gods' that man has worshiped throughout the existence of humans, so it would seem most likely that the existing popular religions are of a similar source. If one is to be rational, it would seem to me that a being that created everything, would not have created what appears to be the most intelligent of the various things in what was created (I say that man appears to be the most intelligent, but that may not be true at all) to have the condition of coming into life as evil beings, and that they can only be redeemed from this condition, by having access to the teachings of Christianity, and then accepting that one has to accept that Jesus died for our horrible sins that we were born with, through no fault of our own, and if we believe he did that then those horrible sins will be forgiven, but otherwise we will suffer a far worse fate than man has ever produced to use against other men during their lifetimes. Such a being logically would have to be a monster; something from a horror movie.  (Jan 24, 2014 | post #207224)

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That would certainly sort out any concern about over populating the world, if all women, who were not virgins at their wedding, were stoned.  (Jan 24, 2014 | post #35206)

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Gay Marriage - Russell Springs, KY

Patty, you might want to check your "facts" with some people who attend your church who actually have an education. I would think that someone with very little formal education is hardly in a position of telling scientists, some of which have many degrees and have spent their whole lives doing research into the subjects which you claim to know so much about, but obviously don't have a clue about, knows more than all of the science community combined knows.  (Jan 24, 2014 | post #35205)

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But I didn't say there is a heaven, Patty. Do you have first hand proof that either heaven or hell exist? First hand would mean that you have seen those places yourself.  (Jan 24, 2014 | post #35203)

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Gay Marriage - Russell Springs, KY

How many weddings have you attended, Patty, where the cake was not made by one of those attending the wedding, which is my past was usually where they came from, have you known who baked the cake that was at the wedding? Do people usually post the name, address, telephone number, and internet address of the company who baked their cake, on something that other people can see (for advertising purposes)? I suspect that has happened someplace, but I have never seen it. I suspect in the case of some gay people suing a baker, it is likely that those doing the suing set the baker up, so they could make a point, which is a little devious, but hardly the crime that refusing to bake a cake because of one's religious convictions would be. If they are in the business of baking cakes, they should bake cakes, and sell them to whomever wishes to purchase them. What the beliefs of the buyer or seller are should not enter into that business transaction. It is likely illegal to run a business which discriminates against certain people in the community, since most businesses have to have some form of a government license to operate.  (Jan 24, 2014 | post #35202)

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You have acquired a lot of knowledge of science which you didn't have the last day you posted here, Patty. How much of that non-science do you know to be true?  (Jan 24, 2014 | post #35199)

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Gay Marriage - Russell Springs, KY

With my memory I wouldn't know if one of my posts had been deleted, but I find it rather strange that a post would be deleted by anyone moderating this site, assuming someone is, without informing the person whose post they deleted what had been wrong about the post.  (Jan 24, 2014 | post #35198)

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Gay Marriage - Russell Springs, KY

Brian has lost the battle years ago against sanity. To consider that he would be able to win anything else is rather humorous.  (Jan 23, 2014 | post #35155)

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Gay Marriage - Russell Springs, KY

Patty, do you really believe that if a God did exist, which neither you nor I know to be true, but I do know of more logical reasons to believe that God doesn't exist, that anything that PLH might say on this site would have one iota of an effect on His Kingdom. Just how weak do you believe this God is, Patty? You demean your own God by the way you talk about how mere tiny mortals are harming His Kingdom. In other words (or anotherwords, as you would say) man is actually more powerful by many times than is God. Oh Ye of little Faith!! Patty, everything you have said on this site, and everything you might say here has no meaning or effect on anyone, because you have long ago established conclusively that you are a liar, and that you will continue to lie, even when you are forced to admit that you have been lying. So then, Patty, why would anyone listen to or believe anything you say. If you cannot even trust a person to tell a simple truth then what else is there that one can say good about that person.  (Jan 23, 2014 | post #35154)

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Gay Marriage - Russell Springs, KY

Which commands of God are you obeying, Patty, by your many thousands of posts harassing and abusing other human beings on this site, for what must be now 6 years or more? Where does God tell you that what you do here is a good Christian act? If I was not fully aware that you are horribly mentally ill, Patty, I would say that comparatively speaking, of all the people on this site, you are by far the most evil, and if a God did exist you would be so judged by that God as such. But I don't believe there is a God, and you certainly have not given me any reason to think otherwise.  (Jan 23, 2014 | post #35153)

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