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Jupiter, FL

Cold Case No More: Police Arrest Husband in Heartsong Murder

Anthony Forgione was a serious roid head. Steroids killed him. Boca Raton cops are juiced to the gills. It's a serious problem ! Sunday Jul 24 Jay Boca Raton, FL While I do not enjoy tangling in controversy, I must say, Jay, your posts are absolutely accurate, to my knowledge. Thanks for weighing in. Ms. Forgione, Jay posted on factual matters, which are true or untrue. Calling him names serves this board no purpose. Bob Sherin  (Aug 5, 2016 | post #948)

Jupiter, FL

Cold Case No More: Police Arrest Husband in Heartsong Murder

In all fairness to Anthony C. Forgione, the friend Toni Heartsong met shortly before her death, here is his positive side as reported in his obituatary that appeared in Newsday. the Long Island juggernaut: "FORGIONE - Anthony C. of Greensboro, NC, suddenly June 12, 2013. Beloved father ofChristian Anthony. Loving son of Louis & Irene Forgione. Devoted brother of Jay Forgione (Lynn), Cheryl Forgione and JoanneForgione-Sal ata (John). Cherished uncle of Nicole Forgione, Kristen Summers and Raymond Andrews. Anthony was an avid body builder, nicknamed Pretty Boy. His love for life was God, family and his body building family. He was a professional in the sport as well as a gentleman. He was loved and respected byeveryone in the sport he competed in since he was 16. He was a veteran of the Air Force as well as a former police officer with the NYPD and the Boca Raton P.D." Wrote one Brian Kaufman: "He was a dear friend and a good person and father."  (Jul 27, 2016 | post #946)

Jupiter, FL

Cold Case No More: Police Arrest Husband in Heartsong Murder

This post is utterly unfair to the consciencious jury. I know. I was there each day. Assistant Prosecutor Burns simply blew it when it came to delivering evidence. There were a number of things that could have been done much better. For example, testimony on the timeline was a jumbled mess that could have been rescued if Ms. Burns used visual displays, charting what each witness claimed. The neighbor who was an ear witness had wobbled in her testimony before the trial. Truth is, she was scared to testify to the truth until she got before the jury. This is a common situation. An expert witness on the subject could have clarified why her testimony had shifted -- out of fear, and made her believable. Instead Ms. Burns left her out to twist slowly in the wind. We Americans must realize that believing someone is a killer is a long way from convicting someone of murder. If I were on the jury, I would have acquitted too. The jurors were steller human beings who did their jobs.  (Feb 6, 2016 | post #942)

Jupiter, FL

Cold Case No More: Police Arrest Husband in Heartsong Murder

This is not a thread about Anthony Forgione. His relevance: More than anyone outside the Heartsong family, Anthony had a window on Toni's state of mind at the time. This is a thread about who murdered Toni Heartsong. While declaring Robert Heartsong not guilty for want of evidence, the jury, for the most part, believed he did it. So do I. Suzye Heartsong posts whenever she thinks she can sully this poster's reputation yet Suzye posted the case cracker from which we should not digress. "Now to the unforgettable case cracker from previous posts in this thread. “One by one I will answer all your questions and prove to you how wrong Bob Sherin is. He will argue against me, and that's fine, but I can prove everything I write. I will deal with facts not unproven theories.” Suzye Goldstein-Heartson g, Post 790, May 3, 2011. “To clear your knife theory, on the counter in the kitchen was.a salad bowl, chop sticks , vegetables, and cutting board out, it's in the police testimony, Tony had made a salad for lunch and used the tofu knife for cutting the vegetables up. No needed to find theo knife it was on the counter.” Suzye Goldstein-Heartson g, Post 848, July 6, 2012. “At around 34 minutes into [Bob's story on] 48-Hours, Bob talks about the Tofu knife ordinarily stored in the drawer, as he maintained it was that day. He contradicts his wife Suzye, who revealed above, the knife was on the counter. The Tofu knife is important, because it’s the presumed murder weapon. After battering Toni’s head on the concrete breezeway, the killer retrieved the knife to finish the job. With an apparent knowledge of anatomy, he stabbed her in the neck so she’d bleed out.” Bob Sherin, Post 862, August 30, 2012. “... For the first time, Suzye Heartsong says the Tofu knife employed in the murder was on the table, not in the drawer. Since it was missing from the crime scene, only the killer could know this fact … Case closed! Let's give the family peace.” Bob Sherin, Post 854, June 9, 2012.  (Dec 29, 2015 | post #939)

Jupiter, FL

Cold Case No More: Police Arrest Husband in Heartsong Murder

Suzye, You are making a positive statement that the Sheriff tested for steroids. I was unaware of that. So, please post your authority for the statement. I was the first to post that the relationship [Toni & Anthony] was not known to go beyond its gym doors. I know, Suzye, that you're bent on demonizing me and that you use other posters in that endeavor. Perhaps reposting the following will clarify my role in this issue. [This refers to Ms. Forgione] Thanks again for your post. You furnished two important details that: 1) the late Anthony Forgione is your Brother and 2) Anthony and Toni did have conversations at Jupiter Fitness Center with which you are familiar. Which gets me to the 3 pictures of your Brother I posted at http://bobsherin.w ix.com/forgione . My first concern, of course, was confused identification. Since you did not take issue with the three pictures posted at the above address, I assume they're correct depictions of your Brother. If so, when you started off railing, you wrote, your Brother didn't have red beard hair nor did he have any facial hair. Since the pictures show that he did have facial hair and in at least one pic, red beard hair, you intentionally misinformed this Board on this point. That being the case, please be specific on any facts that you find incorrect, being as interested as you at reaching the truth. I'm also interested in hearing your feelings about the passing of your Brother. He died young. That is sad for a guy who tried so hard during a lifetime of body building. You cannot fault me because your Brother became enmeshed in this story. I don't make the news; I only report it. I wrestled long and hard over the identity of the retired police officer from New York City whom Toni befriended at the gym. I wondered why the Palm Beach County Sheriff never interviewed him for his knowledge of Toni's state of mind during that period. Turns out, another story is buried there connecting with Palm Beach County Deputies buying steroids from Anthony. In researching your Brother, he was beloved by so many. He lived and died the body builder, because apparently steroid use did him in. You could say he devoted his whole life to body-building. His death is a tragedy! This is a very long thread on true crime. If you truly want to learn my intention and motive, you'll have to start from the beginning. In my opinion, unfortunately, Roid Rage accounts for Toni Heartsong's murder, something not reported anywhere else. If any of my facts are wrong, please be specific. Unlike the red beard hair deposited on Toni's pubic hair (you wrote, Anthony had no facial hair), please play it straight with the facts, . Whatever you'd like to write, please feel free. One of the most important tools Tropix gives us is open posting. Unlike finished TV, you can float a theory here, have those, like you, who should be familiar, come back and teach. With the input of posters, such as in this thread, it's amazing how authoritative the information becomes. I always go with the flow, having been wrong here more than once. But I always correct every misconception. You've simply given me nothing to correct And the most important piece of information you've corroborated is: Anthony and Toni did talk, and you have privity to the content. So I've come up with a side of this story that everyone else missed. With your last post, I feel vindicated. And you needn't post confidential content of your Brother's interaction with Toni. Thanks again  (Dec 27, 2015 | post #938)

Jupiter, FL

Cold Case No More: Police Arrest Husband in Heartsong Murder

From my vantage point, this has been a robust thread with everyone contributing as much as has been known. I see no wealth bias, as you apparently do. There is one point that has not been discussed. When Bob left his Delray work site before the murder, he did not take his red Expedition. It was spotted there during the crime. Just before leaving, Bob walked around the project in progress, as if inspecting. Somehow he ducked out unseen and took a vehicle that was pre-positioned. Who pre-positioned that vehicle? And if it was a rental, who returned it? Again, gleaned from the evidence we do know and not positively established.  (Jun 15, 2015 | post #935)

Jupiter, FL

Cold Case No More: Police Arrest Husband in Heartsong Murder

This is a post that keeps disappearing. On this repost, I've changed the URL to the Forgione pictures below, First, thank you for calling my attention to the fact that it was not your Brother, Anthony C. Forgione, who was employed as Relationship Manager with Hudson Valley Bank. Not a lie, it was an unintentional error. An Anthony J. Forgione still appears to be employed with the bank. I regret the error and urge you to call any other errors you find to my attention. Joanne, you're misleading this group again when you post that your Brother wasn't involved. While he had nothing to do with the murder, he was likely the one person outside Toni's family who knew her state of mind. At the gym, he and Toni had a special relationship. The Palm Beach County Sherriff erred in never interviewing Anthony. As you posted: "I would never post what w[as] said between Anthony & Toni on this or any other forum. You need to let this rest." We've let it rest, but, despite calling for a surcease, you haven't. Southeast Florida was, before the U.S. government moved in, the pill mill capital of the U.S. Anthony C. Forgione, who died at 48 in June 2013, was a kingpin of steroid sales. Boca Raton neighbors reported an influx of visitors at his home, people who would wait for hours yet depart the moment Forgione arrived. The Boca Raton police fired Forgione in 2003 for lack of attention and steroid sales. When Toni met Anthony Forgione at the gym, his steroid business was prospering. It was a time when both Bob and Toni had taken up weight lifting. Bob reported that Toni could press 140 pounds. Bob had ripped his right shoulder socket and was due at the surgeon's office for repair the week of Toni's death. And though, Joanne, you misled this group when you declared, Anthony never had beard hair, I've posted pictures of that beard two times yet each time the URL has disppeared. Here it is again, so we can let the group decide whether Anthony had beard hair and whether it was ever colored red. See pictures at bobsherin dot wix dot com forward slash forgione  (Mar 30, 2015 | post #933)

Jupiter, FL

Cold Case No More: Police Arrest Husband in Heartsong Murder

Joanne, You still have but another contradiction: "I would never post what what said between Anthony & Toni on this or any other forum. You need to let this rest." J. Forgione, Sister of deceased weight lifter Anthony Forgione.  (Mar 29, 2015 | post #931)

Jupiter, FL

Cold Case No More: Police Arrest Husband in Heartsong Murder

Joanne Forgione, Please reconcile, if you will, two contrary posts made within a day of each other: "He did know this women Toni." #925 Monday Mar 16, 2015. "My brother wasn't involved with this case or the women whom tragically died. Everyone obviously had him confused with someone else." #927 Tuesday Mar 17, 2015. Bob Sherin  (Mar 27, 2015 | post #929)

Jupiter, FL

Cold Case No More: Police Arrest Husband in Heartsong Murder

Not so, my friend. The police mistake was in failing to protect the crime scene, also in not examining Bob closely on that day nor in taking pictures of him. Those are hardly game ending police errors. I watched the trial and, like the jury, I believe the verdict was correct because the prosecution never delivered sufficient evidence. Like the jury, however, I believe Bob did it. For example, numerous witnesses at the Delray Job site testified to when they saw Bob at the site, with one reporting when he saw Bob's red Expedition there. No one could make any sense out of the hodgepodge of timeline testimony, that is, unless Assistant Florida Attorney Burns reduced the timeline testimony to a visual, checking with each witness as to how sure he was to seeing Bob at the times when his cell went off the grid during the time material to the murder -- from 11:30 AM to 12:30 PM. Here's a previous post to bring PAWPETS up to date. So you'll understand the context, Suzye Goldstein was Bob's Wife after Toni. Now to the unforgettable case cracker from previous posts in this thread. “One by one I will answer all your questions and prove to you how wrong Bob Sherin is. He will argue against me, and that's fine, but I can prove everything I write. I will deal with facts not unproven theories.” Suzye Goldstein-Heartson g, Post 790, May 3, 2011. “To clear your knife theory, on the counter in the kitchen was.a salad bowl, chop sticks , vegetables, and cutting board out, it's in the police testimony, Tony had made a salad for lunch and used the tofu knife for cutting the vegetables up. No needed to find theo knife it was on the counter.” Suzye Goldstein-Heartson g, Post 848, July 6, 2012. “At around 34 minutes into [Bob's story on] 48-Hours, Bob talks about the Tofu knife ordinarily stored in the drawer, as he maintained it was that day. He contradicts his wife Suzye, who revealed above, the knife was on the counter. The Tofu knife is important, because it’s the presumed murder weapon. After battering Toni’s head on the concrete breezeway, the killer retrieved the knife to finish the job. With an apparent knowledge of anatomy, he stabbed her in the neck so she’d bleed out.” Bob Sherin, Post 862, August 30, 2012. “... For the first time, Suzye Heartsong says the Tofu knife employed in the murder was on the table, not in the drawer. Since it was missing from the crime scene, only the killer could know this fact … Case closed! Let's give the family peace.” Bob Sherin, Post 854, June 9, 2012. “Bob I'm actually disappointed you will never release your book because I would really like to read the facts of the case... I loved how you said him knowing meditation helped him pas the lie detector test, and also pointed out the flashes of anger we saw after his victory …“J. Heyen, Post 861, August 29th, 2012. “... At the gym where the Heartsongs worked out, Toni had made friends with a young, retired, police officer from New York City. Bob made mention that she could bench press around 140 pounds. Bob too was into weight lifting, because pushing himself too far, he had pulled his right shoulder socket and was due for repair within the week. Kingpin of steroid sales, retired, New York cop, Anthony Forgione, now busted, is serving prison time. In his thirties in 2000, Forgione cut a hyper-masculine ..Did steroids play a part in Toni’s murder?" Bob Sherin, Post 862, August 30, 2012. Yes, I believe the murder was one of ROIDRAGE, because we've been able to confirm on this thread that Toni had a close relationship with Forgione. What else could explain how a former hippi turned to violence -- abnormal violence confirmed by two witnesses at trial?.  (May 28, 2014 | post #924)

Jupiter, FL

Cold Case No More: Police Arrest Husband in Heartsong Murder

"I would never post what what said between Anthony & Toni on this or any other forum. You need to let this rest." J. Forgione, Sister of deceased weight lifter Anthony Forgione. So, if you knew of the conversations, the relationship must have been deep between two individuals who needed each other. I always thought that Bob and Toni were having affairs at the time of Toni's murder,. The thread was at rest for months before you came in railing against me. I wasn't about to let my credibility be destroyed, Though we want to let the story rest, we also want all the discoverable facts out there too. Your contribution has been enormous. Peace,  (Mar 25, 2014 | post #921)

Jupiter, FL

Cold Case No More: Police Arrest Husband in Heartsong Murder

Wow, leave it to me to miss the most important point: Anthony and Toni did talk, and you have privity to the content. So I've followed the trail and come up with a story everyone else missed. With your last post, I feel vindicated. And you needn't post confidential content of your Brother's interaction with Toni. Thanks again.  (Mar 25, 2014 | post #920)

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Heartsong Crime Uncovered

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Fairway Estates, Florida

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SW 160th Sreet east of U.S. 1

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Caitlan Rother's true crime books. True crime TV, such as Aphroditti Jones, Nancy Grace mysteries, Dateline, 48 Hours

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Am wholly occupied as Senior Paralegal for the Law Firm of Robert Moore, Esq.

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