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Cold Case No More: Police Arrest Husband in Heartsong Murder

Gang, let's stay on track, because there's so very much to remember. First, permit me to address motive: I printed and sold only 200 copies of my first book, called “Justice Disrobed.” Bob became a part of it as I championed his cause based upon misinformation from friends. It's now out of print. As an author, I've assured the Heartsongs of my present intention not to pursue this murder with a book. I'd like to give the family peace, but it will only come when the Heartsongs stop orchestrating their smear campaign here. I'm not the murderer. Isn't one murder enough? Now to the unforgettable case cracker from previous posts in this thread. “One by one I will answer all your questions and prove to you how wrong Bob Sherin is. He will argue against me, and that's fine, but I can prove everything I write. I will deal with facts not unproven theories.” Suzye Goldstein-Heartson g, Post 790, May 3, 2011. “To clear your knife theory, on the counter in the kitchen was.a salad bowl, chop sticks , vegetables, and cutting board out, it's in the police testimony, Tony had made a salad for lunch and used the tofu knife for cutting the vegetables up. No needed to find theo knife it was on the counter.” Suzye Goldstein-Heartson g, Post 848, July 6, 2012. “At around 34 minutes into [Bob's story on] 48-Hours, Bob talks about the Tofu knife ordinarily stored in the drawer, as he maintained it was that day. He contradicts his wife Suzye, who revealed above, the knife was on the counter. The Tofu knife is important, because it’s the presumed murder weapon. After battering Toni’s head on the concrete breezeway, the killer retrieved the knife to finish the job. With an apparent knowledge of anatomy, he stabbed her in the neck so she’d bleed out.” Bob Sherin, Post 862, August 30, 2012. “... For the first time, Suzye Heartsong says the Tofu knife employed in the murder was on the table, not in the drawer. Since it was missing from the crime scene, only the killer could know this fact … Case closed! Let's give the family peace.” Bob Sherin, Post 854, June 9, 2012. “Bob I'm actually disappointed you will never release your book because I would really like to read the facts of the case. However, I do understand how that could be hard for Toni's family. I do wish them the best. I loved how you said him knowing meditation helped him pas the lie detector test, and also pointed out the flashes of anger we saw after his victory … “J. Heyen, Post 861, August 29th, 2012. “Another side of this case never brought out at trial. At the gym where the Heartsongs worked out, Toni had made friends with a young, retired, police officer from New York City. Bob made mention that she could bench press around 140 pounds. Bob too was into weight lifting, because pushing himself too far, he had pulled his right shoulder socket and was due for repair within the week. Jupiter to Delray has turned out, epicenter of international pill mills. Government operations in the past few years, such as Operation Which Doctor, have taken have down the industry, which started in 2000 shortly before Toni’s death. Gyms were the first distribution points. Kingpin of steroid sales, retired, New York cop, Anthony Forgione, now busted, is serving prison time. In his thirties in 2000, Forgione cut a hyper-masculine image and adulation, especially in contests. Did steroids play a part in Toni’s murder? Did Bob push himself into injury out of feelings of insecurity? Was jealousy a factor in the murder?” Bob Sherin, Post 862, August 30, 2012.  (Feb 5, 2013 | post #869)

Jupiter, FL

Cold Case No More: Police Arrest Husband in Heartsong Murder

Off-thread, Tofu knives with rounded tips was raised. Research unearthed different configurations with pointed Tofu knives being usual. This wasn’t an issue at trial or in this thread. To everyone material, the Tofu knife missing from the crime scene was the final weapon presumed to be in the drawer beneath the counter while on it stood visible knives bristling from a butcher block. This thread started on November 17, 2006. Above, on July 9, 2012, for the first time, Suzye Heartsong informs us that the Tofu knife portrayed by both sides at trial as in the drawer was on the counter, a fact only the killer would know. See post 848 by Suzye Heartsong.  (Sep 12, 2012 | post #863)

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Cold Case No More: Police Arrest Husband in Heartsong Murder

J Heyen, Appreciate your kind words. The finger print on the deadbolt was never identified nor were the hairs, including the red beard hair in her pubic hair. One explanation: Toni had shopped at Burdines that morning, supporting the theory, she picked up hairs while trying on clothes. Another side of this case never brought out at trial. At the gym where the Heartsongs worked out, Toni had made friends with a young, retired, police officer from New York City. Bob made mention that she could bench press around 140 pounds. Bob too was into weight lifting, because pushing himself too far, he had pulled his right shoulder socket and was due for repair within the week. Jupiter to Delray has turned out, epicenter of international pill mills. Government operations in the past few years, such as Operation Which Doctor, have taken have down the industry, which started in 2000 shortly before Toni’s death. Gyms were the first distribution points. Kingpin of steroid sales, retired, New York cop, Anthony Forgione, now busted, is serving prison time. In his thirties in 2000, Forgione cut a hyper-masculine image and adulation, especially in contests. Did steroids play a part in Toni’s murder? Did Bob push himself into injury out of feelings of insecurity? Was jealousy a factor in the murder? This, admittedly, is but conjecture without proof. Watching Bob on 48 Hours last night, I kept freeze framing for signs of steroid use. His shoulders appeared developed yet what I saw didn’t prove anything. Something smashing, however, did emerge from yesterday’s viewing: At around 34 minutes into 48-Hours, Bob talks about the Tofu knife ordinarily stored in the drawer, as he maintained it was that day. He contradicts his wife Suzye, who revealed above, the knife was on the counter. The Tofu knife is important, because it’s the presumed murder weapon. After battering Toni’s head on the concrete breezeway, the killer retrieved the knife to finish the job. With an apparent knowledge of anatomy, he stabbed her in the neck so she’d bleed out. Two versions: At trial and on 48-Hours the Tofu knife was in the drawer, with Bob's corroboration, while just above in this thread, according to Wife Suzye, the Tofu knife, the one piece removed from the crime scene, was on the counter. How would Suzye know a fact to which only the killer would be privy? In an attempt at cover-up, did they float this fact, little realizing the admission against interest it carried? “I will deal with facts not unproven theories." Suzye Heartsong, May 3, 2011, Post #790.  (Aug 30, 2012 | post #862)

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Good Jupiter people, I'm seeking information on the national pill scandal coming out of Operation "Which Doctor." There are other allied operations associated too. When did the pill craze start in Jupiter? What percentage of the population became consumers? Did it grow out of pharmacies or gyms or certain doctor's offices -- or some combination. Can anyone tell me about symptoms when HGH (human growth hormone) goes awry? What percentage of weight lifters use it or used to use it? New Times has covered the subject extensively yet not from a historic perspective. If anyone has a grasp of the history by time line, I'd love to learn. Thanking you in advance.  (Aug 25, 2012 | post #13255)

Jupiter, FL

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Please take this unique accomplishment as a springboard to future success. You've got everything going for you: Beauty, age, maturity. As someone only in this Jupiter group on account of covering Toni Heartsong's tragic death, it's a pleasure to see good news. And to encourage you. Please realize that many of us grew up inheriting the Victorian ethic. While our forebears didn't wear Burkes, they sure had crazy ideas about nudity, beauty and sex, utterly confused over the mutually exclusive. I congratulate you with all my heart. May you guide yourself into a successful and happy future. Bob Sherin  (Jul 16, 2012 | post #1)

Jupiter, FL

Cold Case No More: Police Arrest Husband in Heartsong Murder

Mistake: July 6, 2012, above  (Jul 9, 2012 | post #857)

Jupiter, FL

Cold Case No More: Police Arrest Husband in Heartsong Murder

"To clear your knife theory, on the counter in the kitchen was.a salad bowl, chop sticks , vegetables, and cutting board out, it's in the police testimony, Tony had made a salad for lunch and used the tofu knife for cutting the vegetables up. No needed to find theo knife it was on the counter." Suzye Heartsong, July 6, 2002, Post 848, identifying herself as in the Bahamas and not Katy, TX as mistakenly listed by Tropix.  (Jul 9, 2012 | post #856)

Jupiter, FL

Cold Case No More: Police Arrest Husband in Heartsong Murder

A caveat: "only the killer could know this fact," or someone he told.  (Jul 9, 2012 | post #855)

Jupiter, FL

Cold Case No More: Police Arrest Husband in Heartsong Murder

The case cracker; the end. For the first time, Suzye Heartsong says the Tofu knife employed in the murder was on the table, not in the drawer. Since it was missing from the crime scene, only the killer could know this fact. Quoting Suzye, "I will deal with facts not unproven theories." Case closed! Let's give the family peace.  (Jul 9, 2012 | post #854)

Jupiter, FL

Cold Case No More: Police Arrest Husband in Heartsong Murder

"One by one I will answer all your questions and prove to you how wrong Bob Sherin is. He will argue agaist me, and that's fine, but I can prove everything I write. I will deal with facts not unproven theories." Suzye Heartsong, May 3, 2011, Post #790.  (Jul 8, 2012 | post #853)

Jupiter, FL

Cold Case No More: Police Arrest Husband in Heartsong Murder

As to being hard of hearing, yes, she testified she was. Doesn't mean she didn't hear Bob and Toni arguing. There's total hearing loss and specific frequency hearing loss. We don’t know which and how severe. Best scenario is that her loss was such and on unaffected frequencies, insufficient to thwart detection of that argument Whether the vacuum was switched on or off is a matter of what we in the audio business call "signal to noise ratio." As you can imagine, this involves all kinds of variables, such as distance from noise, dbs of noise, etc. You can generalize but hearing boils down to science. And that’s another expert the prosecution should have called – to prove she could have heard that argument. My proof is in the pudding. You wrote the Carol and Bob spoke afterwards, inferring there was no animus, so what motive would Carol have had to mis-state her testimony at trial? The Parkmans were the least likely to mis-speak at trial. But before trial, a crime such as this per se in its aftermath would have frightened anyone close. “In less then three hours the jury came back with a verdict of not guilty, in a murder trail that is unheard of.” Yes, virtually unheard of but not surprising. Just before Ms. Burns reply argument, I had called the States Attorney’s office, who sent over an investigator. I gave him my notes of why I thought they were about to lose the case and how they should craft their reply argument to pull it out. When Ms. Burns resumed, it was from her preplanned script that didn’t address Mr. Maxwell’s beautiful closing argument. As they sent the jury out, I packed up my things and drove back to Miami, knowing I had just witnessed a trial where the prosecution failed. It looked to me like the case was thrown (see posts, infra), but I have no evidence to support this claim. Predictably when I got home, they informed me of the verdict – with which I wholly agreed. But, like me, the jury felt he did it. It’s just that the prosecution hadn’t proved it. “I know you feel he was guilty and that your choice, I,m not trying to change it, you have rights to believe as you like, this Is America, we have the freedom to think and voice our opinions, but please read all the testimony first, I have offered it to you many times. You've even said you'd come and get it but you never did. Your choice again... There is so much more info that never came out in trail.” Do I have a smashing book, but I’ve decided to give the family peace by leaving it unpublished. Let me assure you that if propaganda comes out in print, I’ll be the first to find a publisher and release it.  (Jul 6, 2012 | post #851)

Jupiter, FL

Cold Case No More: Police Arrest Husband in Heartsong Murder

To clear your knife theory, on the counter in the kitchen was.a salad bowl, chop sticks , vegetables, and cutting board out, it's in the police testimony, Tony had made a salad for lunch and used the tofu knife for cutting the vegetables up. No needed to find theo knife it was on the counter.” Don't worry about the city of origin, because Tropix often gets it wrong." Thank you for your input, because you may have some new facts for this thread. Thanks for for your input, Suzye. Didn’t need to visit you for the transcript; I’ve already read everything plus, interviewing many with close-up insights on the relationship and crime. Sitting through the trial, I never heard testimony about the Tofu knife being on the counter. Perhaps you're offering bona fide information to this thread, which I'll follow up on. But at trial, Prosecutor Burns emphasized the absence of the Tofu knife from the visible scene, contrasting it to the availability of the butcher block. For argument sake, let's assume you're correct. Let’s now go the the factual situation. The killer just went through this traumatic, "hate" attack that brought Toni close to death while sullying the eyes Bob found so beautiful. Having taken nothing from the home, the killer rushes to the kitchen where he expects to find a knife. As he approaches, the butcher block is prominent with its large knives loaded. What does the killer do according to you? He stops flat-footed and scans the counter for the Tofu knife. Contrary to trial, where the Tofu knife wasn't portrayed as on the counter, if it were, it wouldn't be a weapon anyone but Bob would search out. Under this scenario, Bob's case comes out worse to my mind. You've got the killer hesitating while he searches for the Tofu knife that only the immediate family knew of. A cold-blooded killer would have jumped for the block, pulled a big knife out and rushed back to finish the job. "What about the bloody footprints size 11, going to the back yard, over twenty feet from the side door, Bob heart song only has a nine and a half shoe size." You've studied the case and know the answer. Rookie police botched the crime scene by tracking their footprints all over. As you know, they didn't check Bob for scratches either. "The neighbor, was vacuuming when she heard the voices, it took her eight years till she says she heard Bob h. Voice that day, she is very hard of hearing and her husband was outside and didn't hear anything. She talked to Bob after Tony's death, so what was she afraid of." Whether Carol talked to Bob after Toni's death is immaterial. You've misstated facts. Carol Parkman's Husband told police at the time of the crime, he did hear something: An unusual scraping sound. He's a witness the prosecution should have subpoenaed because his testimony would have supported his Wife's. Turns out, the scraping sound was the tail bed of the truck Carol saw in the Heartsong driveway during the time of the crime.  (Jul 6, 2012 | post #850)

Jupiter, FL

Cold Case No More: Police Arrest Husband in Heartsong Murder

Convinced of Bob's innocence, on November 17, 2006 I began this thread and acting as Web master for Bob's Site. It didn't take long in the study of this crime to swiftly step down. And when I did, I intended to be utterly silent, not enough for the Heartsong forces, whose defamation continues. You'll read about how on May 25th I posted that the book I've written on this crime will never see light of day because of greater importance for family peace. So now, more than a month later, someone writes the final word, defaming me. With names that can't be checked, it is all part of the smear campaign to strike at this thread's credibility. Its credibility cannot be directly attacked, because every issue has been hashed and rehashed. Errors -- some from me -- have been corrected, and inconsistencies -- mostly from the Hearsong camp -- have been noted. Sure, defamatory poster, we should pack it in and let the family live peacefully. But that doesn't mean revisionist history. Yes, the jury got it completely right, finding Bob not guilty. Like me, however, they believed he did the crime and that the prosecution unfortunately wasn't up to doing the professional job of bringing home a conviction. (Below are the referencesBelow is May 25, 2012 Posting by Bob Sherin 48 Hours and Dateline keep rerunning -- we saw the 48 Hours version yesterday again, and posters keep wanting to know. There were two pieces of testimony at the trial as to Bob's over-the-top anger. A bouncer testified to a disagreement where Bob exhibited an anger he had seldom seen. Other testimony came from a business transaction that displeased Bob, sparking another abnormal outburst. We noticed yesterday in the TV piece a shift in affectation several times. After his victory, flashes of an angry undercurrent showed, as it did in his interview with Harold Dow. This contrasts with the pleasant, intelligent affect we ordinarily see. And of course, we've been all over the tofu knife in this thread. With that butcher block so prominent, there's no plausible explanation for searching out the tofu knife in a drawer that no one material would know other than Bob. As to the book, yes. What a book I have, but I don't think I'll ever release it. There's more at stake than money; the family deserves peace.  (Jun 29, 2012 | post #847)

Jupiter, FL

Cold Case No More: Police Arrest Husband in Heartsong Murder

48 Hours and Dateline keep rerunning -- we saw the 48 Hours version yesterday again, and posters keep wanting to know. There were two pieces of testimony at the trial as to Bob's over-the-top anger. A bouncer testified to a disagreement where Bob exhibited an anger he had seldom seen. Other testimony came from a business transaction that displeased Bob, sparking another abnormal outburst. We noticed yesterday in the TV piece a shift in affectation several times. After his victory, flashes of an angry undercurrent showed, as it did in his interview with Harold Dow. This contrasts with the pleasant, intelligent affect we ordinarily see. And of course, we've been all over the tofu knife in this thread. With that butcher block so prominent, there's no plausible explanation for searching out the tofu knife in a drawer that no one material would know other than Bob. As to the book, yes. What a book I have, but I don't think I'll ever release it. There's more at stake than money; the family deserves peace.  (May 25, 2012 | post #845)