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Minnesota Vikings, Green Bay Packers to open on Monday Ni...

you have got to me kidding me man. I just told you AR doent put fear in people and I dont know everything about NFL football but i obv. know more then you since you have this thought in your head that now that favres gone you can just rush the QB . do you understand the concept of it at all. def. palyed favres long ball and inprov. along with his knowledge of the game and defs. You keep putting words in my mouth and I will cont, to say the same thing until it sinks in what i said is comman sense. you cant put 8 in the box or pull CB blitz anymore this year and last. I told you before ill say it again. you had 3 rushers becasue we were running 5 wr sets or 4 wr sets with rb OPTION. OR 3 WRS AND 2 te'S YOU CANT RUSH MANY PEOPLE AND EXPECT to not let anyone free in the secondary and i tryed explaing why and what a safety has to do to compensate for this. You act like I proclaimed AR the gift which in actuallity I did the opp. I said our team is good enough to compensate for some early QB shhortcomings(not all of them) you are acting like AR is the only one on our team when in actuallalti again we ahve strong palyers at almost every single key postiton on the field except QB. what am i saying doent make sense I EXPLAINED THE USE OF OUR wc OFFENSE THE INTENTIONS OF IT AND WHY IT WORKS AGAINT YOUR MADE UP BLITZ NOW CRAP Like i said im not here to compare dicks im stating common sense fact if you cant coutn DB's ad WR's then your done in this convo. how are you gonna get to AR if you have all your rushers and LB freeing up dump passes over the middle or pulling your safety up to provide more then 1 on 1 against our best wr your not it doesn tmake sense. I obv. know the style is beaable and has been proven but what im saying is aimed at intention not action and your implying assumptions im not assuming im saying what again the intentions of the system is and it goes agiant your beliefs. agree to disagree. My coaches could all have been full of shit but i ate it and so did others. it made sense to us in game planning and it still makes sense to me since i played alot of def sided ball. also we ahd to compete with such heavyweights(scrim mage only mind you) against the best high school football team of all time DeLa Salle look it up 12 seasons up undesfeated football. Im jsut syaing again the intentions im not making assumptions im looking at it from a paper reading stand point. In no way am i looking at it from a green and gold. I only sated 2 things 1. are team is built everywhere around the ball 2. if AR can play decent we can make it to the playoffs. I didnt guarntee anything nor am I trying to do anything other then tell you your belief of the system is in fact th eoppsite of what it was intended for thats it.  (Apr 2, 2008 | post #87)

Green Bay Packers

Minnesota Vikings, Green Bay Packers to open on Monday Ni...

just to let yuo know i meant 2-3. but i just thought of it was it all the 5wr sets you guys yused only 2-3 rushers on? if so then it may be becasue in order to cover 5 wr you need DB or secondary and if your team plans on 1 on 1 all 5 WR's there screwed safety helps is needed as a DB and a ohh shit blanket. so your saying now thats favres gone yuur or they are gonna start let WR's run free?? yo may through more blitz or standard 4 man rushs in there o try and speed up the QB but you would have to be stupid to let 5 wrs play 1 on 1 or better yet 5wr' 4DB =1 safety would ge eaten alive esp. sice GB uses short passes your safety may end up voiding himself into coverage and much less if they pull him up(which is what i would do granted your running onely one safety) then you open up more then you think and its all bad  (Apr 2, 2008 | post #83)

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Minnesota Vikings, Green Bay Packers to open on Monday Ni...

understand I have terrible grammer. but even with that is your comprehension that far off. Did i say anything like rodgers will be able to handle it better or favre wasnt a huge factor . Hmm no i didnt but you would have to be a blind fool to think that all around the ball are team is good. Dont try and play your crap putting words into my mouth because your skills of comprehnesion are lacking. then this owe grant would have been injured what is it the minnesota assumptions? you should be when people talk about favre retirement they say why would you retire when the team around you is so good. Read a paper. Dont say yur done with me. you avoided most points liek the blitz and the 4 step drop and such and went to a quick assumption that you really think he will be able to zip as fast asa favre throw it as fast yes (in terms of getting it out of his hands) but the speed of the ball NO. but there is one thing he doesnt have the velocity but he has the feet an he can scramble read and learn i played football for many years as a RB and a SAM Linebacker so dont try and tell me what def. does what to the oppsition. I also told you game plans are gonna change against and you said ohh they'll start bump and run no they wont you learn and play Bump and run sure a team will throw it in there everynow and then but Bump and RUn leaves yo uopen to being burned and if you learned anything abiout our WR's its dont let them get a step on you it will be over. come on man. you knwo how a def. works right the more you bring into the box the more and more 4 and 5 wr sets we will throw at yo uand if you want your LB to blitz which you seem to think is so easy and eff. then you leave a slot wr open no matter what unless your running say a dime ets. where you can afford to pull a safety up for help but then you have to wory about 10-15 yrd passes. I will say blitz work no doubt about it but there not consistent esp. against a team that use a passing game as a glorifed running game. you act liek football is so easy to call ohh we blitz now we wont have to have people back in coverage yada yada thats not excatly how it works i guess inlamemens terms you are correct. but give me a break here man green bay employs 4 and 5 wr sets all the time you cannot use yor blitz often to stop that if you did it wouldbe like selling you r house right now suicide yeah you may get lucky once but AR looked fast and well aware of what was ahppeing in the 5 wr sets against dallas. Now I already said I dont put weight ont he dallas game but it did show you he is capable of handling 5 wr sets and your little theory about blitzing just doesnt match that approch(well it does but like i said 1 0r 2 a quarter.) I didnt come here to make you look stupid or myself nor compare dicks but you vikings are the same toon differnt year. and guess what you were all the ones that said ole favre hasnt got it anymore INT this such and such. and now its the opp. funny how things change when you spread your bias all over everything like a fat lady at a make you r own donut shop. also get a clue man. if you think yor team has anywhere near as many weapons as GB then your point is mute and worthless and all crediabilty s shot. yes favre left(anyone on here will tell you im a avid favre fan) so that was pretty dumb to comment on but anyways. GL dotn tell me this bias unsupported football facts you spit becasue mine are all supported at least by my 6 head coaches in my time on the field  (Apr 2, 2008 | post #82)

Green Bay Packers

Minnesota Vikings, Green Bay Packers to open on Monday Ni...

I dont have all the time int he world right now. ut I never said they wont playdifferntly becasue in my first post on this topix i pointed out the gem plan for AR in dallas was not there so I dont give him much credit. You must not unsderstand football at all considering your DL is mostly run stopping lineman. but yes you will get the blitz maybe a little more now. but you are a fool most teams played Green bay in a tampa 2 do you know what that means? aside from favre changing the play to a long ball to jennings the packers were not playing deep ball and never were all year those were YAC that were long takes. But anywyas if you think its that easy to get to a QB in a 3-4 step drop your a fool are passing game is an ext of the running game. do you think its hard for the QB to find a open reciever on a 3-4 step drop when most teams dont play bump and run do you understand the concept of 4-7 yd slants and how they are used and why. you must not dont claim i dont know football when your blow hard stupipd comments resemble those of a first year player. Ohh now its over were gonna blitz all day and those quick passes that were designed to negate end and LB blitz are no longer gonna work. If you paid any attn. you would have also relized favre made alot of mistakes when he felt pressured so im sure your gameplan will saty the same. Im sick of it you vikings fans talk all this crap every year and every year same result you guys first called favre a hack now hes not a hack right now since hes gone were so much worse off . get your damn story straight and stop with these biased ass opnions and your crappy football knowledge you obv. have no idea how it works. this is video game football where the comp. just cheats it way thru the OL . but if you think our system which relies on instanty passing and screens works in your blitz favor then your a tool. leave men open. leave the slot reciever open just for a second and you will see what the system is designed for to me I would love a LB blitz everyplay but guess what they are only effective when there a surprise and even still they dont work out in the blitzer's favor even 30% of the time. Did i say anything about AR injury problems Hmmph NO i didnt did i. Your AP has a track record so does AR the differnce is im not in denial since AR sint the only one on my team im realying on AP is for you . So yes he jas a record and didnt do anything to dismiss it last year. yeah he is great and awesome and like i said i hope he breaks every record becasue i like his personality and I think he is the total packaage but the line has been drawd and unfort. AP has not been able to change his side as of yet. some of the stuff you say is dumb look at the film you will notice the vikes only rushed 3 or 4 sometimes wow theres a revelation I can pull any game played of recent and pull over 10 plays from any team. but I agree grant benefitted fromm favre like james did from manning the diffenrce is grant broke most of the tackles and knocked people on there ass everygame. i understand the coverage making it thru thru the line but you did see that after that intial contact he was a beast and there is no denying that. he is hard to tackle and has a very good read and watch film all you want i am correct on that  (Apr 2, 2008 | post #74)

Green Bay Packers

Minnesota Vikings, Green Bay Packers to open on Monday Ni...

o AP got injured . well your right we stopped him from scoring more then the 30 points you guys needed to just break even. Also im nto sure harris meant to hurt AP. you guys reach ive played football for over 10 yrs not now(becasue in college I really hurt my achilles tendon) but there may be some players you try and hurt but those are loud mouth idiots and to actually be chasing a guy down the field full of adrenline and think to your self Im going to try and use a tackle that will injure him becaseu thats more important then trying to stop him from getting a TD your a fool.  (Apr 1, 2008 | post #69)

Green Bay Packers

Minnesota Vikings, Green Bay Packers to open on Monday Ni...

if you blitz alld day like yousaid were gonna be in trouble about then you must not have watched us at all last year. your blitz will be picked off by a designed 4yrd dump play its that easy you guys think ohh no favre not here all those short passes most pro QB shoud be able to do in there sleep is gonna all the sudden change to where we have abunch of plays where we throw deep your a tool. Also rush all you want Grant will pick up the screens jennings and driver will slant for big yardage and your awesome run stuffing DL will be void most of the game. stop being such haters you losers. last time the vikings played the pack waht was the score again oh thats right you had a BIG 0 a goose egg nothing nada zilch that was the second 1/2 of the season you guys got better but your team is one player get over it.  (Apr 1, 2008 | post #68)

Green Bay Packers

Minnesota Vikings, Green Bay Packers to open on Monday Ni...

vikings fans are so funny. We have a solid team all around the ball liek i said no argument there. Are def. is getting better with exp. esp. are front 4 our OL is getting better(although we need some help) but other then that we need some CB. but what you guys got 1 wr and AP and all the sudden your this awesome team. give me a break . As i dont believe its one of these situations but if grant cont. on his path and jennings and driver with jones and martin getting better its liek a Ravens SB or when elway got injured the car is driving inself in a sense(yes i know favre is gone) but we are a welll oiled machine and if rodgers can come in and play decent we will be in the playoffs. also to point out some more stuff. to the guy who said peopl ewill just blitz now and stack the box are you dumb you did relize that last years style of play was not favre's right (you can understand that correc) if you blitz off the edge or rush your LB so often which you think is smart Jennings and driver in single coverage will be burning YAC all day on your team. Im glad you guys can stop the run so can we. You guys are not solid anywhere but 2 places thats RB and DL thats it and guess what Ive already stated my opnion on AP and i love the guy but he is known for injurys and he didnt stop that last year 1 injury sidelined him and he was probably playing hurt ost of sthe later season. Get a life people were not proclaimg were the next SB champs but we have more weoapons then th evikings have had for the last 10 years on our team right now. shoot you look at madden we have 15 but thats a game. Anyways. you guys have got to use common sense here we lst #4 its huge correct and I agree were going to fill the growing pains but if you think Grant,jennings,dri ver, jackson,jones,barn ett,harris,woodson ,hawk,bigby(iffy but i like him) are just so nobody then you are a fool. you guys think that your just gonna show up and your new WR(joke)addition is gonna wresck havoc thru the air you have got to be joking me. use comman sense and learn the sport dont act like a fools please.  (Apr 1, 2008 | post #67)

Green Bay Packers

Minnesota Vikings, Green Bay Packers to open on Monday Ni...

you vikings fans are so funny. You have 1 good player on your team and thats it. LOL whatever you say i love AP to death ad besides being on my rivals team i hope he breaks every record there is in the NFL for RB's with that said and out of the way your 1 person is AP and he cant seem to stay healthy shoot was he injured 2x last year? Like i said I have nothign but high hopes for AP but he cant do it all. and let him get 200yds 2 tds they will be the only ones the vikes score, and we wil have 150yds 2 TD's with grant. oh yeah thats rigth the RB who came out of nowhere and almost rushed 1000yds in 1/2 a season(how much did ol AP get again) and Rodgers to jennings for at least another 6. no matter what are team is stacked on both sides of the ball and there is no argument there. sure QB is new but he has been there for 3 yrs and is probably better friends with the WR then Favre was excluding driver of course. Its all about chemistry we all know this and AR looked good in dallas(I dont give him to much credit there since they didnt play to stop him) but still he can run buy time his intangliable are what we want and how he keeps his eyes down field the whole time while scrambling will kill teams once he gets some practice.  (Mar 31, 2008 | post #18)

Green Bay Packers

Jason taylor to packers?

If you are a vikings fan I hope you remeber that beatiful shut out last you know that one where favre cleaned house with your entire team. yeah that time. Get a life I didnt come here to compare dicks with you and judging by your native area mine is def. much bigger but that is just a educated guess something they may not have in MInneSOTTTTA  (Mar 28, 2008 | post #26)

Green Bay Packers

Favre Yet to File Retirement Papers

WOW. Its sad if true. i wanted him abck no doubt but im also content with a new era. i agree its fishy and I also agree TT is a awesome talent scout but if this is true i hope it bites him in the ass and not from a bug thats labeled exc. of the year. I like TT some choice's he has made have pisse dme off in general he is good. but I will be pissed becasue this isnt San Francisco we dont treat our greats like crap and I can care less if favre played like garbage all season last year he is a great and he has brought the pack back to greatness and as packers we should never turn our back on our players great or not. that goes out to you packer fans who claim to be team fans and bad mouth favre and such. Not staarting a fight but im very loyal and i cant stand people who trash there own family(and as packer fans the team should be close as family(in a sense) )  (Mar 27, 2008 | post #10)

Green Bay Packers

Jason taylor to packers?

not a back up but a 3rd down end is what a meant  (Mar 27, 2008 | post #16)

Green Bay Packers

Jason taylor to packers?

I hope he doesnt pull a montana and play for another team. besides his chemistry is with jennings, driver etc. not sure why he would go somewhere else to re learn everyones style. BTW how long did it take others in his postiotn tofill out the paperwork?  (Mar 27, 2008 | post #15)

Green Bay Packers

Jason taylor to packers?

Yeah ive been so busy. And not really able to use my phone since I broke it and have been using this crappy nokia. but im glad to see some of the good ones are still here. nice to see you all. Cant wait for next season. ive always been the favre fan so im even more excited about next year I cant wait to see the new era. Jason Taylor at a good price do it. I guess. KGB is a back up 3rd down End so why not put him and taylor on the ends on 3rd and normals in the middle sounds pretty scary for passing situations to me.  (Mar 27, 2008 | post #14)

Green Bay Packers

Jason taylor to packers?

I could be wrong : )  (Mar 25, 2008 | post #8)

Green Bay Packers

Jason taylor to packers?

to much money. Although it fits the TT build establish that line and only so much can happen.  (Mar 25, 2008 | post #7)

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