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Phoenix, AZ

Mormons planning to build temple in Phoenix

In other words, they are just like all the rest of us....some people have red hair, some people have darker skin than others, short people, tall people, smart people and not so smart people. The problem begins when people are judged by things they have no control over, and those who do so only prove how ignorant people can be. A tall person is a person FIRST. Being tall has noting to do with who they really are. And the same goes for gay people..they are people first, and as such should enjoy the same rights as non gay people.  (Tuesday Dec 8 | post #2861)

Phoenix, AZ

Mormons planning to build temple in Phoenix

Logic, a learning curve, and the instinct for self preservation.. some people got it, and some never will. Me doing fine, mom fell down..got lucky with only a bruised tail bone. Been cold here..had to drag the boat in the garage to work on it... Been playin one this website: http://www.v-drive boat.com/vweb/show thread.php?t=2731 &page=9 Got to be at least 1 bozo on every website..got some duse named Kiwi tellin me hydro's are widowmakers..almos t unsafe difficult to learn to drive like i am some kid who buys a new sport bike and kills himself before he even gets it home..and that was after i told him i been riddin way fast street bikes for years..i ain't dead, i must be doing something right..then he says he had never even rode in one..Don't even know the guy..but i gave him a tune up anyway..and then some guy from florida posts..Ya..i got same boat..had it for 14 years..has a blown big block chev. goes 140..straight as an arrow..'i am gona love it when i get it running..I send him side email...boat is so safe he lets his 17 year old daughter drive it! cya mike  (Saturday Dec 5 | post #2833)

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormonism)

Mormons: We are Christians, too

Now Hannah..you know you can't believe EVERYTHING you read! I heard if you make a hat out of tin foil it helps with that a lot!  (Friday Dec 4 | post #16392)

Phoenix, AZ

Mormons planning to build temple in Phoenix

Gee, that sounds like me! But with one rule..excess kills..to much of anything will kill ya..i used to drink, then i used to drink more...and when i was drinking 2 5ths of 151 every week it almost got me..and one day i woke up..and just quite drinking..I think i had finally killed the "i need another drink" brain cells. And as for drugs? Reality (or rehab) is for people who can't handle drugs...and drugs are for people who can't handle reality, which are the same ones who need rehab  (Friday Dec 4 | post #2819)

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormonism)

Mormon leader: religious freedom at risk

Gee, someone who uses real time information to think! It is little more that a business that uses religion as a method to increase profit margins...People pay money their entire life because it is necessary to remain in good standing which is necessary to collect the BIG PRIZE when ya die..they are taught that those who die and not in good, get the boot......and it's sort of a rip off if ya think about it...pay money to get into heaven..but is there really a heaven? People pay money for a product that there is no way to prove that it actually exists or if those who pay ever get there even if there happens to really be anything after death. Sounds like a perfect business to be in to me..no product returns.. the paid in full customers are all dead and the church has rules for everything..that's how they keep everybody under control. And that is what all religion is...they call it guidance...but if ya don't get guided, they can't control..and it upsets their program. The mormon church just took it a step further with the minimum mandatory tithing  (Friday Dec 4 | post #1158)

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormonism)

Mormons: We are Christians, too

Hell, people been doing that for several thousand years already. Must be a genetic thing..that inherent need to hold onto something so tight you can never see what it really is.  (Thursday Dec 3 | post #16337)

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormonism)

Mormons: We are Christians, too

So like you are saying that a 2000 year old book is inherently defective...but you got some special connection who has did a re-write and it's all fixed now and good to go? He didn't really say that did he? And you believed him? There been a bunch of you people trippin around lately...I know..he is has a pretty good sales pitch...but it's just like all that e-mail that ends up in the junk mail box..pitch to everybody, somebody will bite sooner or later..so don't feel to bad, you aren't the first.....and i could ask you, "what were you thinking" but i don't need to... But don't worry, the word is out on that dude..got some pizzed off people hot on his trail..i guess they invested everything they had in him...and word has it that one of them died and he didn't get no bunch of wives in heaven...he got stuck on some ghost busters sit-com loop and he is stuck there till after syndication runs out..he snuck a message to him family somehow..they got on the internet...and they are tellin everybody!!  (Thursday Dec 3 | post #16335)

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormonism)

Mormons: We are Christians, too

So it's kind of a pick and choose kind of thing..if one book doesn't have the answer you want, or that you can understand, you consult the other book..that makes sense..i have run across automobile/motorcy cle repair manuals that read like translated chinese..they even have their own names for the parts and they over complicate even the simplest of tasks to the point where it's really difficult to understand just what the real point is...so i switch to the other brand..it's like chilton and clymers...and their description is pretty clear...for that particular task...and it never fails..i pick up that same book next time for another task and it reads just like the first one did. And there has been several times, like on those japanese v-twin..v-4 motors for getting all the cams and cam chains and gears all timed correctly, it can be a rather involved procedure...So i read both manuals..and they both seemed to agree, and what they said looked like it would work..but i must have spent days on it...every time i did it 'just like the book said' i would try to make it work...and parts would just crash together. That was one of the few bikes ever i couldn't fix..i lost my ass big time on that one. And after working on bikes for a while i got my head around the basic engineering concepts behind the design and the books became useless. I could look at something, and because i understood how it was designed to work, i could think my way through it.So i pretty much learned that books are for beginners....they are not always right and being able to think for yourself has more value than the words of a thousand people.... As for the bike i could not fix? i found out almost 10 years later that the bike was a European import..somebody has snuck it in under the fence...shaft drive..instead of chaindrive..the engine rotates in the opposite direction...the book never said there was a difference..so i the end, i got the shaft for reading a book..but it taught me to think. I guess the question is: which book do you check first? Do you really believe that a book is always right....and i wonder how long will it take for you to get the shaft in the end?  (Thursday Dec 3 | post #16334)

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormonism)

Mormons: We are Christians, too

i guess you don't read the bible much..the information is in there, somewhere...''God has not revealed to us yet.' I guess he thought you read the bible too...truly he would have have told all Christians everywhere...and just forgot 'us'?..would that be just you and your and your family..or everybody in the hood...it might be possible to solve this great mystery by knowing who exactly missed out on this piece of information that has you so confused. :)  (Wednesday Dec 2 | post #16304)

Phoenix, AZ

Mormons planning to build temple in Phoenix

Naw...Nrly isn't blind..she knows exactly where she is going, the trouble is, that is all she seems to be able to see..and even that really isn't a problem, i just wish she would quit trying to take the rest of us with her..ya tell her no, and a couple hours later, here she comes again...but in the end..all that really matters is her finding her way and being happy on the journey.  (Tuesday Dec 1 | post #2813)

Phoenix, AZ

Mormons planning to build temple in Phoenix

So if we scoffed and degraded people who you say were acting in our best interest...hows come i am standing in heaven? And who's heaven is it. I didn't get sent to mormon heaven did i? i can only handle one wife at a time, if mormon heaven means i have more that one wife, i might as well just go to hell. Or maybe ignorant people get a fly for free pass...as long as they were unintentionally ignorant..God can't deny access to heaven simply because a person does not believe...and ya know, if God would just stop by and say high once in a while it would solve many problems...surely he can't expect people to believe in him just because someone said so..and who should one choose to believe? The group with the biggest church? the best singers? the most members? The ones who are to most persistent? The ones with the most money? The ones with the best rewards? decisions, decisions....just too many choices...i think i will just wait for God to stop by and say high..and see what he thinks i should do  (Tuesday Dec 1 | post #2811)

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormonism)

Mormons: We are Christians, too

it's the mormon way. i get the correct order confused sometimes but it consists of these well used tactics. ignore change the subject quote scripture change the wording of the question into something they can understand complain about being ridiculed quote BOM proclaim (aka self designate) they are christians too (also?) declare their faith, even though no one listens claim they are the real one and only followers of the word of 'Gods' add in some sales pitch..'see how cool and happy i am, i know you really want and need what i have.....you just dont know it. And when all else fails....politely worded insults...... And even after all this time they still can't figure out why everybody continues to take pot shots at them..and the reason is soooo simple..it's because they stand and take it....and ya, maybe they shoot back a little..using blanks...blanks being nonesense They are so wrapped up in their religion, they can't get their head around the fact that every time they try to explain themselves it is little more that proof to the rest of the world that they are a little more different than the average different people...Mormons would not have to deal with half the guff they get if they would just go lay down by their dish and keep to themselves But like all mormons..if the words do not come from the church, they are not true..and for sure none of them would ever listen to me!..so mormons will continue to stand there, running their mouth...solving nothing and proving to everyone else that coming from kolob or going to kolob ain't all that cool. And then there is this thing that i was taught long ago, and it proves itself every day.... The definition of insanity...doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results..that is what mormons do.... they keep trying to convince everyone else how cool they are... same words..same scripture..same sales pitch...and they just can't see IT AIN"T WORKIN...it hasn't worked before, it don't work now, and their is no reason to think that it ever will  (Tuesday Dec 1 | post #16248)

Phoenix, AZ

Mormons planning to build temple in Phoenix

Yooooooooooo! that about covers all the bases... Only one snag...those who would benefit the most from true wisdom are the same who would be least likely to accept the fact that real truth will always be the simplest answer for the most complicated of questions. A multitude of stories handed down for thousand of years in some vain effort to prove something that nobody has ever seen fits right in with the extreme level of commitment necessary to learn to believe in something that lives only in the imagination of people who have the 'need' to believe. Sorta like: Sobriety is for people who can't handle drugs.... And i must admit that i have seen God and i can see him any time i have the need..which is usually around the 4th of july every year... i truly love eating 'toadstools' and watchin fireworks!  (Monday Nov 30 | post #2809)

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormonism)

Mormon leader: religious freedom at risk

And i agree too...although there is that gray area where the people do not have the capacity to think for themselves only because they are using all their resources to think for other people. As for IRS and the religion for profit situation..Even as high power as the IRS and FEDS are, if/when the day ever comes that religions are required to account for their income will be the beginning of a court battle that might last for decades so i think the simplest course of action is to just ignore any profits that any church might make, and each any every time any religious organization makes even the slightest noise about what they think, their policy or where they stand on any issue do whatever is necessary to back them down..if any church has an opinion on any subject, it is their right to teach those views to it's members and for them to voice their opinion through voting, just like the rest of us. For the leaders of a church to have the ability to influence the legal process in any way..and for their members to also have the ability to influence the legal process is NOT religious freedom....  (Monday Nov 30 | post #1135)

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormonism)

Mormon leader: religious freedom at risk

Nope, not a premise, just an observation relating to what seems to be facts.... As for 'what is being done to the LDS'.....verbal discrimination? 'Hate crimes'? since when is free speech a hate crime....and yes, all of us have the right to freedom of religion and i believe those words also mean freedom from religion. But this is not the place to do the worship thing. This IS the place to do the freedom of speech thing. If freedom of speech offends you so much, maybe you shouldn't be here. I bet you have never even bothered to consider that some of what you post might be highly offensive to someone else. Do you think it just might be possible that the one thing in your life that you truly believe in just might be in total and complete conflict with what another person has been taught every day of his life? And that poor person cringes with every word you write You can't get your head around that can you? Something must be wrong with that person...if he only knew what you know, his problem would be solved. Your faith, if it is real, does not need to be defended, supported or explained....if you are feeling that your faith is being ridiculed, what does it matter? Real faith cares nothing of what others might say or think. It is stand alone bullet proof..nothing can change it....not words or deeds or time. Those who stand tall and speak loud will always be targets for those who disagree. And those who complain about those who don't play fair, or won't play by the rules only prove that their faith can't stand on it's own merits...... Perhaps you need to spend some time thinking outside of the little world you live in..every minute of your day is supported by your faith..the faith that can't that handle a little errant flack.... Unless it is you that can't handle it? people flip ya guff and it seems to have found a soft spot....it might be a good idea that before you fix that soft spot, figure out why it is there in the first place.... I know what i believe..it is my truth..it stands alone, it does not need me to be real..it never changes and for sure i never feel the need to defend, or support it in any way  (Monday Nov 30 | post #1131)

Q & A with blackbirdxx

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born in the U.S.A.

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peace and quiet

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logic