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Jehovah's Witness

JW.org is becoming the new Walmart of religions

May I suggest that you get someone to type for you please.  (Feb 17, 2014 | post #317)

Jehovah's Witness

It's true, Jehovah's Witnesses preach a different gospel

A person gets his good heart from accepting the love of God through the Sacrifice of Christ Jesus and through developing a personal relationship with Christ and the Father through the work of the HS. plain and simple... no 'Bull'  (Feb 17, 2014 | post #708)

Jehovah's Witness

What is the trinity?

Here are just a few... Genesis 1:26 "Let US make man in OUR image": Three plural pronouns, (We, Us, Our) used 6 different times in four different passages: Gen 1:26; 3:22; 11:7; Isa 6:8. The unanimous opinion of the apostolic Fathers was that the Father was talking to Jesus. Genesis 19:24 "Then Yahweh [on earth in human form] rained on Sodom and Gomorrah brimstone and fire from Yahweh [in spirit form in heaven] out of heaven. Genesis 19:24. In this text Abraham is visited by three individuals, one being Yahweh and the other two angels. Here we have God on the earth (Jesus) and God in heaven (father) sending down fire from heaven. This incident when Abraham met with Yahweh God, is what Jesus referred to when he said, "Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad." (John 8:56) The unanimous opinion of the apostolic Fathers was that Jesus visited Abraham in Genesis 18 and 19. John 19:7 The Jews answered him, "We have a law, and by that law He ought to die because He made Himself out to be the Son of God." John 1:1-16 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God John 14:10 Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you are not just my own, Rather it is the Father living in me, who is doing his work..." Revelation 22:3 "And there shall no longer be any curse; and the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it, and His bond-servants shall [latreuo] serve Him." And many others… Please address each of the scripture which I have provided which prove that Jesus and God are one in nature, power and God-ship and worthy of the same worship, honor and praises as One God…just three ways in which God has shown/shows himself to us.  (Feb 17, 2014 | post #11361)

Jehovah's Witness

What is the trinity?

Its really quite simple Schleptik... Jesus was a human body but the spirit/power of God lived in Him as the scripture I provided stated... His 'spirit nature' is just that.. The spirit part which gave him life. The spirit of God. You and I have the breath of life from God himself which allows us to exist, think and feel. It is the part of God which was made 'in His image'. God is not human being and since we are made in his image, it is the 'spirit' which lives within us and is our 'soul' and which makes us in the image of God... this is the spirit nature of which I spoke. The spirit of Life which lived into Christ was the Spirit of God Himself. thus making Christ, God in the flesh.  (Feb 17, 2014 | post #11359)

Jehovah's Witness

Please JW's answer this question about Salvation

Hi Brother P... with all due respect, could you please list the 'kinds of works' which you are taught, teach others and believe are required to help you attain salvation at the end?... It may be a few days before I get back to this. I'm not on too much these days. Taking care of hubby with a total hip replacement, but I do check in every few days when I can. Thanks, Becky  (Feb 17, 2014 | post #446)

Jehovah's Witness

Please JW's answer this question about Salvation

HI LL. The covenant is the promise. God promises us eternal life if and only if we put Faith in His son and the blood He shed for us. The HS is not the 'technical' part of the covenant. Jesus's blood spilling was the required part on God's end and our faith in Chri's sacrifice as requirement for our Salvation is our reciprocal part of the covenant. The HS was promised by Christ to us in order to be our 'counselor' to minister to us in spirit, to admonish us, to strengthen us in our walk... So the HS isn't the part of the promise from God for Salvation, the HS is the part of God which helps keep us connected spiritually to God. The HS is the helper who helps us walk in and keep our faith. I don't know any person who is a Christian who does not believe in the HS. So I am not sure why you make the statement above.  (Feb 11, 2014 | post #395)

Jehovah's Witness

What is the trinity?

HI Schleptik... The best answer I can share is John 14:8-11 "Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to your are not just my own,. Rather , it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. The human body of Jesus was 'begat' by the power of the Holy spirit of God... This makes him God in His spirit nature.. God's spirit living in Him from Conception. And working and living in and through him as a human. Do you agree that in all that Jesus did as a human, the miracles, the healing, the resurrecting of dead people, etc... that He was AS POWERFUL as God himself?.. It is because Christ as one form of God was doing in as a human. And to answer another question you posted about God being with us even in instances such as rape etc.. You have to remember that God has Given man free will and in free will, all manner of sin and horror is committed by and upon innocent people. God gives us strength to over come the results of sin. He is with us every second of our life waiting for us to even so much as whisper or shout his name. God saves us from many things which we aren't even aware of. And he has to allow man to sin otherwise our free will is gone and we become robots and worship is not from voluntary nor from the heart.. It is then a mandatory, processed thing. God allows bad things to happen because of free will, but He is there for us to over come. My life is a perfect example of this. I overcame alcohol abuse, drug abuse, sexual abuse and a live lived destroying myself. I was conceived of prostitution. God called me and reached out to me when I was at a rock bottom and I responded and then asked Him through Christ to come into my life and heart. I have never been the same. And I am not ashamed to share these things, because my experience and sinful life make me a good witness for how Jesus changes lives and the hearts of men. My story and testimony give people hope. I am a miracle of God. Jesus has saved me from a desire to sin. My hearts desire now is to walk with and for Jesus and to honor Father God through my faith in His son whom my Father in heaven sent to redeem me. I do not want Jesus' suffering and sacrifice to be in vain. Those nails should have been in my hands and Jesus took them for me. He took them for you and for all mankind.. It is up to us and our free will to whether or not we freely give our heart to God and His son. God can make anything or anyone good provided the individual is willing to allow God into his or her heart. May you feel his blessings today.  (Feb 11, 2014 | post #11172)

Jehovah's Witness

Please JW's answer this question about Salvation

I find it odd that you find many people who call themselves Christians who do not understand the covenant.. The covenant in a nutshell is this.. God sent his Son to redeem us from our Sins..if we accept Christ as our Savior and put in our faith in Him that he can and will deliver us from sin, then we are part of the 'covenant' or God's promise to us that we will receive eternal life simply by putting our faith in Christ as our savior and serving Christ and God as part of our faith in them. Do you believe there is more?  (Jan 31, 2014 | post #118)

Jehovah's Witness

It's true, Jehovah's Witnesses preach a different gospel

Hi LL. thank you for the apology.. I accept :) Luke 8:10 is referring to Truth's which can be known only by revelation from God. compare with Mk4:11 though seeing, they may not see. This quotation is also seen in Is 6:9 and is a warning about the hardening of the hearts of Israel and future man in general, the gentile as well.. Jesus uses it as reference to how men who come to know of him and turn away or harden their hearts toward God will not be able to understand the parables because they are not connected to God through Christ. The parables are spiritual food and guidance for the believer, not the unbeliever. It isn't because God doesn't want any one or certain ones to know Him, because God wants that ALL man should come to Him through Christ. The parables are for those who refuse and deny Christ and the Father. This parable is not because only a specific group of believers have understanding.. all believers will have understanding if they know Christ, because to know Christ is to know God and to have Christ revealed to us in our hearts is to have God revealed along with His message in our hearts.  (Jan 31, 2014 | post #706)

Jehovah's Witness

Please JW's answer this question about Salvation

Thank you for finally answering my question... LL, we all love Christ and Father God... and we all believe in the name of the Jesus as the only name which will bring us to Salvation. I don't believe any one was claiming that Salvation is NOT found in the name of the Son.. it is the ONLY name in which one is saved... My whole point in my challenge was to ask JW's whether or not they believe that one must support the WT organization as being ESSENTIAL for Salvation. Anyone who believes in Christ and serves Him and the Father are the 'sheep' whom Christ will separate...because whoever serves Christ will treat ALL of his brothers in Christ as they would Christ. And when I say brothers, I do not refer to ONLY the brothers of the WTS... I refer to ALL believers and servants of Christ who believe in the Him and His Sacrifice. And I really do urge you to do more research on whether the Holy Name of the Father is found in the NT as you think it is... You have been taught erroneously to mis-use the fathers name. His name is YHWH, NOT Jehovah and we are to keep it holy as Matthew 6 tells us to. Using it as often as you use the word 'the' is wrong and defanes the name of the Father. NT original Greek and Hebrew uses many other words for Him.. They use Kurios and Theo and Theos, addonai, etct... but NOT HIS HOLY Name... And man places the NWT has the name Jehovah was originally theo or kurios or addonai and was originally referring to Jesus. And even in the OT.. when God told Moses His name was YHWH... he was giving a description about himself as to His great nature.. He commanded Moses and generation to generation to come to remember him as the Father of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.. NOT YHWH or Jehovah. Plain and simple.  (Jan 31, 2014 | post #116)

Jehovah's Witness

It's true, Jehovah's Witnesses preach a different gospel

So then you do not promote the WTS? If this is so, why do you promote their teachings? And for the record, I don't 'promote' the denomination who I chose to worship with, learn and support from within. I affiliate myself with this denomination because I agree with and support their teachings and missionary work. I 'promote' their doctrines and teachings as truth... I don't care what church or denomination a person goes to.. You see, the denominational name isn't anything but a name, it didn't get you what you got and it certainly won't get you where you are going... But the Name of Jesus will. It doesn't matter what denomination one belongs to provided they have accepted Jesus as their Savior, believe in the sacrifice and resurrection, repent, serve God and do their best to live right in the eyes of God. plain and simple.  (Jan 28, 2014 | post #704)

Jehovah's Witness

It's true, Jehovah's Witnesses preach a different gospel

This is totally opposite of what you posted to me about 'God finding us'... If free will is not a factor and God finds us then why do we need to seek Him?  (Jan 28, 2014 | post #703)

Jehovah's Witness

It's true, Jehovah's Witnesses preach a different gospel

I agree with the fact that God and Christ chose us to do their will and their way.... But we still have the free will to say no to them.. If we didn't have free will, God would not have needed to send Christ. God did this so we would MAKE The choice to SAY yes to them whether they called us or we sought them.. Look at all the people who have left the WTS and have turned against them or God... They had to be called to there to begin with according to your understanding.. If this is so...they exercised their free will and said 'no'.. See my point? You are the one who is muddled... When I make a statement LL, if you think it is wrong, it is not because I am lying... It is because you disagree. Stop calling me a liar or I will chose not to engage in debate with you any longer. This is the second post I've read today where you call me a liar.. I'm not telling lies LL, it is my belief or understanding of it. I could call you a liar with a lot of things you post which I disagree with, but I see that your posts are your beliefs....... there is a difference. A lie would be for me to intentionally give knowingly false information. Please understand the difference between a lie and a belief.  (Jan 28, 2014 | post #702)

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The Most Accurate & Honest of all Bible Translations- the...

Yes, pretty excellent for twisting scripture.  (Jan 28, 2014 | post #3165)

Jehovah's Witness

Christmas

May I ask would it make a difference if we chose another date and just called our celebration of the birth of Christ ..... lets say "Glory to God in the Highest"... as the angels proclaimed the night Christ was born? Is it strictly because the Holiday is associated in its origins of some pagan festival that the majority of us on here have never heard of before this post?.. I realize that Jesus commands us to honor and follow his commandments.. But there is nothing which states that we are NOT to honor God through the remembering of the 1st greatest event in the NT which changed the course of man's destiny. God does tell us we are to honor and glorify and praise him. This is what Christians do at Christmas time. And I don't know anyone who rams the holiday down Christ's throat and tells him to like it on our terms.. that is a ridiculous statement. So really, if we chose to Glorify God and celebrate the giving of the greatest gift God has ever bestowed on man on a different day and called it different name.. would that still be wrong in your or the WT eyes? Of course it would because it's not a WT sponsored or approved event. You speak of obeying Christ's commands yet the WT 'slave class' do not partake of the sacred communion in remembrance of Christ's broken body and shed blood as he commands us to do.. How do you justify allowing the GB to be your link to God? Christ is the only way to the Father, not a group of men who self-proclaim themselves as the only channel to the Father.. How do you shove the plank in our eye without taking the plank out of your own?  (Jan 28, 2014 | post #1203)