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Jehovah's Witness

Christendom Clergy vs. Bethel Clergy—Which is Worse?

and why wont you answer the question why? it is a forum about JW.  (6 hrs ago | post #202)

Jehovah's Witness

Show Us Where Does The WTS' New Light Come From?

you should read your Insight book on Inspiration Vo1 first sentence. "The quality or state of being moved by or produced under the direction of a spirit from a superhuman source. When that source is Jehovah, the result is a pronouncement or writings that are truly the word of God." True prophecy does not find its source in the expressed opinions or interpretations of men but, rather, originates with God. Hence Peter writes: “No prophecy of Scripture springs from any private interpretation [e·pi·lyʹ se·os] . . . but men spoke from God as they were borne along by holy spirit.” (2Pe 1:20, 21) Thus, the Bible prophecies were never the product of astute deductions and predictions by men based on their personal analysis of human events or trends. Insight Vo1 1213 Interpretation. " WT 1958 Oct 15 pages 631-367 23 After publishing the names of the eight ministers of five religious denominations who signed the manifesto, the press report said: “These are well-known names, and are among the world’s greatest preachers. That these eminent men, of different denominations, should feel called upon to issue such a statement is of itself exceedingly significant.” 24 The eight clergymen who signed the manifesto were disappointed as to what they expected. In other words, they proved to be false prophets. By the year 1926 they had come out in opposition to Jehovah’s witnesses, who were intensely publishing in all the inhabited earth the good news of God’s kingdom, that it now rules. 25 The “times of the Gentiles,” mentioned in the foregoing manifesto, disappointed the ministers’ expectation by not ending sometime after General Allenby captured Jerusalem in 1917 and Britain received the mandate over Palestine from the League of Nations. They had expectations the GB said, and yet they called them false prophets, and in none of what they said they did in the name of God. the WT uses their excuse for false prophecy as expectations, yet they accuse others of being a false prophet because of their expectations. CAN WE ALL SAY HYPOCRITES. WT 1979 9/1 29-30 para 27-28 GB prophecy in Gods name, they speak for HIM. 28 Unlike the clergy class, those of the Jeremiah class have been sent by Jehovah to SPEAK IN HIS NAME. Nevertheless, the clergy prophets also claim to speak in his name and, hence, to tell the Bible truth. In this way Christendom’s religious leaders really ‘steal’ away the force and effect of the calamitous message proclaimed by the Jeremiah class. True, the Jeremiah class back up their message by quoting the words, “This is what Jehovah has said.” But the clergy try to add weight and the ring of truth to what they preach by affixing the words, “An utterance!” Seemingly they speak from God. So they may use a Bible text as a pretext for preaching about politics or even war propaganda. Yet Jehovah is against such clergy prophets whom he did not send forth FROM HIS INTIMATE GROUP and who ‘steal’ words from his Bible in order to make a wrong application of them.—Jer. 23:30, 31. Now this is also interesting here the GB claim the clergy were never in the intimate group of Gods people. But they apply all the bad things to them, yet this is what Ezekiel says... So if JW claim to be Gods people they are the false prophets and they are the ones spoken of here in this chapter. Ezekiel 13:9)And my hand has come to be against the prophets that are visioning a UNTRUTH and that are divining a lie, IN THE INTIMATE GROUP OF MY PEOPLE they will NOT continue, and in the register of the house of Israel they will not be written, and to the soil of Israel they will not come, and you people will have to know I am the Sovereign Lord Jehovah. NWT  (7 hrs ago | post #116)

Jehovah's Witness

Should women be allowed to serve on the Governbody

and there were not persecuted for the name of Christ were they as the scriptures say Christians would be, no JW is persecuted for bearing the name of Christ. Most people have no idea about your message of the kingdom, JW are persecuted because of they run every other religion down, look into your own Boni they have a bad history, individual JW are following the orders of the FDS not Christ, his message was redemption forgivness of sins first and foremost, JW never go door to door and preach redemption salvation through Christ that only comes up in the third chapter of the BTB, and then after that nothing, until the memorial then that's a anointed fess. Month before the memorial they give invitations out that's it they don't preach Christ and his sacrifice for all mankind do they. :)  (8 hrs ago | post #305)

Jehovah's Witness

Should women be allowed to serve on the Governbody

I purposely overlooked? and yes they do hide very well believe me I, I am talking about the handling of these crimes dear, there are ped everywhere in most institutions, church's, we are discussing JW, and HOW THESE CRIMES WERE HANDLED, take the example of the little boy abused by a KNOWN CRIMINAL PEDOPHILE, by the elders all was forgiven and they allowed him to study with a little boy he abused, he admitted this, and the same sad stories of how badly the so called only true religion handled these crimes, basically it was to protect the image of the org. And my prejudices, I care very deeply for those abused kids, and hate the way these crimes were so poorly handled, I doubt very much you even know what you are talking about Boni. Not one bit of sympathy for your own b/s nothing. By the way Boni where was the holy spirit, hmmmm an appointed elder for years hiding his crime while rapping little kids, praying at the meetings sitting on JC DF others while they are rapping innocent kids. How many so called repentant peds criminals forgiven went back and did the same things again, IT IS A CRIME! should have been reported to the police. And they allow them to go door to door ESCORTED, so much for believing they are repentant they have to watch them, and the public they preach to are not aware not even their own b/s. I mean do they escort forgiven fornicators going door to door hmmmm So they can't believe they are repentant if they have to watch them, see how sick your org it.  (8 hrs ago | post #304)

Jehovah's Witness

Show Us Where Does The WTS' New Light Come From?

ha ha ha, no it was promoted as the year of the resurrection of the dead worthies, that means Armageddon had to have come before maybe a few months before the resurrection, hmmmm So they were going to show up at Beth Sarim, what was Jehovah going to zap them over from the middle east, or fly them to Beth and Joe could pick them up in his Cadillac.  (9 hrs ago | post #109)

Jehovah's Witness

Why Are JW's So Unhappy?

oh right, the post was not directed to you and you posted as it was, usually people say OH sorry wrong post..... instead you called me the liar. And yes you did say you were a women and as I recall 51, maybe it was 52 but you are a women in your fifties now posting as Aneirin, interesting, have a nice night.  (14 hrs ago | post #391)

Jehovah's Witness

Show Us Where Does The WTS' New Light Come From?

in other words I agree but I will insult you because you right and I am wrong.  (14 hrs ago | post #102)

Jehovah's Witness

Show Us Where Does The WTS' New Light Come From?

they should have just said this is what we believe at this point instead of saying it was truth and anyone disagreeing is DF, yes. And address the scripture in Prov 4, they use this out of context don't they Aneirin. God never changes his truth is always truth, the Gb truth is not, and they preach that as TRUTH FROM GOD, so much so anyone disagreeing is disagreeing with God. Wake up to yourself stand by Gods word instead of the ever changing doctrines of the GB that they call food at the proper time how can wrong teachings be food at the proper time. Example the new generation concoction, the unbiblical appointment of a GB in 1919 and more, get real. YOU said you read the bible six times without the aid of the WT and yet YOU came to the same conclusions as the GB with were wrong about the appointment over all of Christ belongings, you called everyone an apostate that dared show they were wrong, but YOU claiming to know better after reading the bible six times as you bragged showed that all along you were reading the bible with the aid of the WT publications, my oh my the apostates were right, didn't you see it was food at the proper time!!  (14 hrs ago | post #101)

Jehovah's Witness

Why Are JW's So Unhappy?

post was to Aneirin not you and this is what you said....lol really... this is What YOU said. ihveit wrote: <quoted text> iohv i think i am going to let arry take this apart for you.... should be interesting to see especially since you want to make created and begotten mean the same thing when it pleases you will pcloadletter said in answer to post 60 Array's taking me down? I think I'll enjoy seeing that even more more than you will. http://www.topix.c om/forum/religion/ jehovahs-... post 65 Array is taking ME down. LOL Aneirin you said ME as pcloadletter  (14 hrs ago | post #389)

Jehovah's Witness

Why Are JW's So Unhappy?

yeah post was directed to Aneirin and YOU answered and said taking ME down, LOL you really blew that, now your lying to cover, then you said on another thread you were a 51 yr old women, gee you really do swing some yarns don't you then have to hide to call me a liar, Aneirin you just keep digging that big whole.  (14 hrs ago | post #388)

Jehovah's Witness

Why Are JW's So Unhappy?

really... this is What YOU said. ihveit wrote: <quoted text> iohv i think i am going to let arry take this apart for you.... should be interesting to see especially since you want to make created and begotten mean the same thing when it pleases you will pcloadletter said in answer to post 60 Array's taking me down? I think I'll enjoy seeing that even more more than you will. http://www.topix.c om/forum/religion/ jehovahs-witness/T 0RMGT4FD2PAKKN8J/p 4 post 65 Array is taking ME down. LOL Aneirin you said ME as pcloadletter  (15 hrs ago | post #386)

Jehovah's Witness

Why Are JW's So Unhappy?

read the link again Aneirin, how is it a lie when its your words, seems to me your the one lying Aneirin.  (15 hrs ago | post #385)

Jehovah's Witness

Show Us Where Does The WTS' New Light Come From?

A truth doesn’t get truer. A truth is a fact. A fact doesn’t get to be a better fact. The new light excuse is to just cover up wrong teachings which they called truth at the time but were not, instead of admitting they were wrong they use this excuse the light gets brighter and using the scripture in Prov 4:18 is also taken out of context has nothing to do with a GB getting new light or the organization progressing towards a clearer understanding. A falsehood can never be considered meat in due season unless God purposefully revealed lies to the GB.  (17 hrs ago | post #95)

Jehovah's Witness

Why Are JW's So Unhappy?

Post 60 was directed to Aneirin. LOL http://www.topix.c om/forum/religion/ jehovahs-... hi Aneirn forgot who you were? LOL!!  (18 hrs ago | post #382)

Jehovah's Witness

Why Are JW's So Unhappy?

ok Aneirin.  (19 hrs ago | post #379)