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Not that this is related to anything, but: methinks is actually not at the wrong end Joe. Maybe its been some time since you read Hamlet, but Rev actually posted it correctly. However I should note Shakepere is using the word "protest " differently than in todays times. In his time it meant to "vow" or "declare ", not object as is in todays defintion. The entire play can be read here. It is one of my favorites. The part where it is used is Act 2 Scene 2 http://shakespeare .mit.edu/hamlet/fu ll.html HAMLET Madam, how like you this play? QUEEN GERTRUDE The lady protests too much, methinks. HAMLET O, but she'll keep her word. As to you: What provide the proof, was your actual actions, the act of posting. You can't say I don't care then do something which shows you do. Now do you care alot, or very little is moot. You posted, you must have cared some.  (Jan 16, 2014 | post #108)

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Which is what I was getting at. TA is right though, typically Marines refer to themselves as Marines. However, everyday people who read this, tend to refer to all Military as "soldiers ". And I don't actually know if TA was a "Marine" . I don't know many Marines that boast on ego trips, I suspect that might be the difference between a combat Marine and "career" Marine. I also don't know to many Marines that can't "Man Up" and apologize when clearly implying something that was blatantly not true. Regardless, I'm done with that, Lets get back to the fun topics. The Military wasn't to fun for me.  (Jan 14, 2014 | post #29)

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Joe its not circular reasoning if you provide the proof. I guess a logical question would be, If you don't care, then why comment?  (Jan 14, 2014 | post #104)

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Oh get off your high horse with that crap. I never got into that jargon BS....nor will I ever. Regardless when I first used it, it was referencing you.You may or may not have been a Marine. I don't know to many Marines who boast like you... The second time I used it in a different context, as to include the whole scope of the military. When the average Joe sees a picture of guys in uniform with guns, his reply is not to say those are "Marines " its those are soldiers. But yes I know all to well Marines are not soldiers. Any time some one boast of the " hell holes" they sat in for the last thirty years. What you really told me, is you never did anything. Your rank would have been to far advanced for you to actual come into harms way by Iraq. And the small conflicts prior than Iraq, were mostly jokes. The last conflict to mean anything was Vietnam. Yeah the hell holes of South Korea....lol. yeah I m not worth my salt, I am not as good or worthy as you. you are the best.  (Jan 11, 2014 | post #24)

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LOL...Semper Fi. Wow a soilder who brags and glorifies, Got anymore Marine one liners. I recall all the BS they tell ya at Parris Island, "We are the feared" Keep that dumb crap to yourself, its obvious you haven't been to many places where bullets were flying. Training didn't save my friend when his Humvee rolled over an IED, and training didn't have me in the Humvee ahead of his, Luck did. So talk about something you actually know. Semper Fi, Brother!!!!! I'd call BS on that anyway. Any soilder without fear, is either to ignorant and doesn't realize his own emotions or to stuipidity to know it. Having fear is a good thing, letting it consume you is not. And Again you point out the obvious, we aren't alike, so I will go with the latter for you in the above statementActually I did several times just in this folder, its in Post 1, 3, and 9. Like your last post was #15. Clear your cache...  (Jan 11, 2014 | post #19)

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Go ahead and let that ego fly, I hear ya Brother...LOL Wow... I could never be like you, that you are correct on. I guess your ego prevents you from realizing, I have no desire to be like you. I do like the 5th grade name calling. But curious, Did you do tours of Iraq? Did you watch your friends die? Did you live four years in complete fear, where you can trust no one you don't know. Where all you got is God to look out for you. A lot of praying and lot of luck. Oh no? Well your right, we aren't alike. Thank Jesus for thatYour kind...Joe, LTTW, and other instigators. You worry more about my church than your own. You'd better do something about that 40+% that think homosexuality is ok in YOUR church. lolWow, sounds like that ego is really pumping. I do read, and I quess UNLIKE YOU. I read all sides of an issue. I try to take on issues with an open mind, again unlike you. (see be happy, I am nothing like you) Your misuse of scripture to proclaim your fame, doen't validate your cause. Quit assuming it does. You Sir, are the Serpent of Deceit. Holding a bible in your hand while you do it, won't make it betterWell Thanks for pointing out the obvious, we the vestry of my church don't get a vote on Sin, its already defined by GOD, not you. My apologies for that. We do get a vote on if we as a church want to do same sex blessings. And if you think my church is "Apostate " which is fine by me, Why do you worry about it so much? Does it bother you my actual church congregation has gained membership in the last two years. Maybe thats what really bothers you, YOUR vision, is actually on the decline, you know like TEC membership is. Seriously, its a issue you and your church will be dealing with shortly this year 40+ already see homosexuality as ok, next year 50% and so on... Is that what bothers you? Is it a homophobia thing? You know what Sigmund Freud had to say about that, homophobia is the first sign you are gay. Are you a gay man in denial TA? Thats a real question by the way...but regardless of the truth, you will have to say no you aren't no matter what. I understandI am not throwing out anything, I just am not allowing the misuse of scripture by you. Sorry for that too. Its not the TA way. “Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?” And Jesus said to him, “Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone. What Jesus, Not even TA? Mabe you need some lessons on how to address people. Maybe lose your silly ego. or the self-righteous jargon. You may fare better. Love Ya Brother Anti-  (Jan 10, 2014 | post #16)

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Joe those are silly and absurd examples, and not enough to make much of a case. As the case where the church in Scotland is allowing a Muslim group to use it, I see not one thing wrong with it. I find it absurd that you do. Do you ask the religion of everyone you help? Or do you help anyone? Is it only Catholics you help? If not, whats the difference of helping when you already know ones religion? I'm sorry but thats probably the dumbest example you could have used. And like my intial statement, doesn't validate your claims. Quit trying to play to ignorant American Muslim fears. The record is noted: "You don't care what I think"....But you cared enough to acknowledge that you didn't care, so you must have cared some. Which makes your statement a lie. Thats a Sin Joe.  (Jan 10, 2014 | post #95)

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You are correct God never intended for you to be ignorant but it is what it is. You ignored the question.  (Jan 10, 2014 | post #14)

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I do judge them... never made the claim or intended to be without Sin or without guilt. I am human. I agree I do struggle posting....but its not my doing. I write in the comment box post, its there, next day its gone. My commentary on LTTW is actaully the intial post. Magically disappeared...  (Jan 9, 2014 | post #12)

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LOL... Anti....It actually comes, in my use, from Anti-Hero...maybe you should research the meaning of that. "AntiHero " God makes you the way you are, they way in which you are born is what God intended yes. You disagree?  (Jan 9, 2014 | post #11)

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Well thanks for assuming what I had decided, but you are indeed wrong. I said I had not, and I have no reason to lie about such. Quit being so shallow TA and thinking everyone is like you. As for your pushing back...you have yet to counter anything, when put to the test you failed. False use of scripture doesn't make you right. Taking things out of context just makes you more of a serpent. Your intent is to deceive the unknowing. Sadly you came across someone who does read and does comprehend. As for Sin, no its not for I to Judge, I know what is Sin to me and I know what’s right for me. If my Vestry vote to allow same sex blessing in my church is wrong, then so be it, I made a boo boo. If homosexuality is wrong so be it, it doesn't directly affect me. And if what they do is so horrid, I will let God decide such. I don't need to pretend to be God, I know you do. I'd rather spend my efforts actually do God's work, then worrying on such. I'll let you and your kind waste away worrying on such. I am sure the Good Lord will be proud of your efforts. Ten Million other pressing things in this world and all you can do is worry on homosexuality? And you call yourself Christian? As for your poor comparison of adultery and homosexuality discussion... Adultery is part of the Decalogue. Slightly different.  (Jan 9, 2014 | post #10)

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Then there is Joey….Another one like LTTW, a slight joke. I generally skip over his post, due to his selective answering, has roughly the same spill, TEC are evildoers, and his way is the right way. Read the Bible dude, then do as Think Again needs to do, fight your own backyard fire. The main Pro-Episcopalian here is RevKen, who proclaims to be a priest. I take it at his word he is, since I have no reason to doubt him. I however, have my own problems with him. I often think his post stoop to very low levels. I assume it’s from a frustration point of view, probably having to rehash over same topics over and over again. I do not always agree with him, but I am closer to his line of thinking than others here. This all brings me to one point…back to my initial post and question, about same sex blessings. Think Again, probably settled my thoughts with the issue of same sex blessings. I now realize it’s the right thing to do. The Lord works in mysterious ways, and I’ve been a witness to such. Throughout the ages, many have spoken as if they knew God, if they knew the bible’s teaching without ever real knowing their own purpose. They make claims that others are “Sinners” when they themselves are no better or worse. It becomes laughable at times, other times a sad reality of the world of hate we live amongst. It saddens me to think there are actually people in this world, who think there are others out there who like being persecuted for just being who God made them. It reminds me of the schoolyard kids poking fun at the child with disabilities; they too think they are righteous. They use the argument that most aren’t disabled so the disabled must be freaks or a spectacle to be laughed at. The ones here use out of context biblical passages to justify their false pretenses. I often wonder why they don’t always fall back to Matthew 7: 7 ‘Do not judge, so that you may not be judged. 2 For with the judgment you make you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get. 3 Why do you see the speck in your neighbor’s eye, but do not notice the log in your own eye? 4 Or how can you say to your neighbor, “Let me take the speck out of your eye”, while the log is in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your neighbor’s eye. Do none of them have specks in their own eyes? Anti-  (Jan 7, 2014 | post #2)

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Headline:

Carry On

Hometown:

Columbia, SC

Neighborhood:

Shandon

I Belong To:

No one, I however am a member of The Episcopal Church.

When I'm Not on Topix:

I work, and read. mostly US History. Not much of TV watcher, I don't own one.

I'm Listening To:

Enya

Read This Book:

Jefferson and His Time by Dumas Malone

Favorite Things:

Homebrewing

I Believe In:

We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all that is, seen and unseen. We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one Being with the Father. Through him all things were made. For us and for our salvation he came down from heaven: by the power of the Holy Spirit he became incarnate from the Virgin Mary, and was made man. For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate; he suffered death and was buried. On the third day he rose again in accordance with the Scriptures; he ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end. We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son. With the Father and the Son he is worshiped and glorified. He has spoken through the Prophets. We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church. We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. We look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen