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Minnesota Vikings

Lets trade 4 Kaepernick

Yeah, coming from the Packers side this still stinks. I remember a few years ago when we went through this with Rodgers, and last year with Jordy. I thought Teddy had a chance to really take a step forward this year. Here's hoping for a full recovery, I never wish an injury on anyone, rival or not. Rivalries aren't any fun unless both teams are at full strength. If the Vikings do make a move (and I think they almost have to) one name I haven't seen much is Nick Foles. The Vikings would have to give the Chiefs something along the lines of a mid-round draft pick for him, so he wouldn't come at no cost, but I'd take him over Sanchez or Kaepernick or any of the other names floating around. That's if the Chiefs would even trade him: you just saw first hand how important the backup QB position can be and they may not want to let go of him. Teddy will be back next year so it's not like you need a QB of the future, you just need one for this year. Peterson's not getting any younger.  (Sep 1, 2016 | post #28)

Minnesota Vikings

Packers

Hey guys. No one's talking on the Packers forum since the fart guy took over. Agreed that something is just "off" with Rodgers. If I had to guess, I'd say some sort of unreported injury that is keeping him from playing with his head in the game. Peyton Manning aside (of course he's like 100 years old which explains him) a QB of Rodgers' caliber doesn't just lose it overnight without some sort of reason. Kind of lost in all the drama the last few weeks is that the Packers defense has been playing really, really well. That's a switch: good defense, bad offense. I'm agreeing with Stubby that it'll probably be a low scoring game. Unless the Packers let Peterson run loose, I don't think the Vikings will be able to do a whole lot offensively. Problem is that if the Packers don't get things figured out, I don't know if they will be able to do a whole lot against the Vikings defense, which is pretty damn good. Verdict? I have NO idea who is going to win this Sunday.  (Nov 17, 2015 | post #29)

Green Bay Packers

Pack Confirm Jordy (Knee) Will Miss Season

I don't see a reason to panic yet. Cobb and Adams can handle #1 and #2, though neither is the same type of receiver that Nelson is, especially down the sideline. Montgomery is a lot like Cobb, probably better out of the slot. Looks like Janis and White will be #4 and #5 at this point. Plus, like Eric said, the key may very well be Richard Rodgers... if he can become a threat up the middle, that takes a lot of heat off of the other receivers. My guess is that they prepare to go into the regular season with the depth chart just like this, and the only way it changes is if someone becomes available at cutdown time (James Jones is mentioned a lot, though again he's not a sideline burner, but at least he knows the system). Reggie Wayne was talked about but I don't see him being a fit even if he doesn't make the Patriots. Same with Jennings. Personally I'd prefer to go into the season with the above depth chart than give one of them up for an over the hill vet who would be #4 at best... that doesn't make sense.  (Aug 26, 2015 | post #3)

Green Bay Packers

So far...

A few quick takeaways from the Thursday night game: Starting offense looked pretty good. Lacy is running like he has something to prove. I got a feeling of "business as usual". They obviously weren't trying to win at all costs (going for it on 4th down a few times, they must have been trying to work out some plays there). Tolzien looked, for lack of a better phrase, MUCH more comfortable out there than he did the last couple of years. You can tell he's been studying the playbook, he's not just going out there and trying to make something happen. He's not Rodgers (who is?) but I think the Packers' confidence in him as the backup is well founded. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that once Quinton Rollins learns a little more, the rest of the league should be very afraid. Rookie of the Year, maybe? He is incredibly impressive considering his lack of experience. A super athlete and obviously smart, he seems to be picking things up very fast. Defense can't seem to stop the run. Not sure what is up there. I'm sure they will work that out. All in all, the team's looking good. Someone on a talk show pointed out that while other teams' fans are obsessing about who their QB will be, or who their starting WRs are... the most drama so far in Packers camp is "do they keep Janis, White, or Abbrederis as the 5th WR?" Kind of funny that we get so wrapped up in a guy who probably won't even be active for most of the games. Such a problem to have.  (Aug 14, 2015 | post #2)

Minnesota Vikings

Summer music thread

Being a Packer fan I generally just lurk her to see what Eric and GBPmies are talking about with you guys, and to see what the latest idiocy is from Madera, but this discussion caught my attention. MagnumMan, that's a nice rig. I'm not going to get into the discussion of what the right price is for a Les Paul since anyone who actually knows the industry (not just visiting websites) knows that the prices are all over the map depending on the model and I have seen genuine Gibson (not Epi) Les Pauls in the price range you're talking lots of times. I enjoy reading about your music stuff here too. I've played "professional ly" (read: typical cover band type gigs) for the past 35 years or so. I've got a bit of a collection, though I don't spend as much on it as I would love to since it's a poorly paying hobby at best for me... any year in which I make more playing than I spend on equipment is a successful year for me. Compounding the complications is that I'm a lefty, and I don't have the money to spend that McCartney has... lol. The current stable (all factory lefties) includes a 40th anniversary Fender American Standard Telecaster which I bought new in 1995 (and which they will pry from my cold dead hands), an orange Gretsch Electromatic fatbody tricked out to match the Brian Setzer model complete with dice knobs, an Epi J200 acoustic-electric (dead ringer for the Gibson model), a Washburn 12 string acoustic-electric, a couple of lefty electric basses, an acoustic-electric bass, and a couple of mandolins, plus a couple other electrics that I've had since the 80s and just can't part with. My amp of choice is a Line 6 Vetta II modeling amp (best amp Line 6 ever made, too bad they replaced it with the Spider series which is a tiny step up from Crate in my opinion). Plus, my custom made Packer helmet guitar complete with facemask which I created myself based on an old Washburn neck-through electric I've had forever. I know this one probably isn't appreciated as much on this particular forum... grin... Anyway, keep rocking it, and keep cheering those Vikings on. They are on the way back, and I look forward to the Packer-Viking rivalry being more competitive in the near future. Though I'll still expect the Packers to win... sorry.  (Aug 5, 2015 | post #76)

Green Bay Packers

NFL draft

Not a bad pick Honestly it's pretty much a crapshoot at #30. I did a little digging around and more than a couple of "experts " had him ranked as the second best DB in the draft (which shows how evenly matched they all are). I wouldn't be surprised if Thompson has something up his sleeve for Round 2, maybe moving up to get his ILB. It's happened before with Jerel Worthy. Otherwise, the only ILB off the board at this point is Stephone Anthony, which leaves Kendricks, Perryman, and Paul Dawson (my sleeper pick). They'll be fine.  (Apr 30, 2015 | post #20)

Green Bay Packers

NFL draft

Hard to say if Kendricks will be there. Though the way the other picks are messing up their own draft stock (see Ray, Shane) everyone else moves up which makes it less likely. I still think that the best move (assuming they find a trade partner) would be to move down to early 2nd round and pick up an extra pick, and use their high 2nd to pick whoever is available from Perryman/McKinney/ Anthony and then get their corner at the end of the 2nd. Or Maxx Williams.... agreed he would be a nice addition but I think he's going to last till well into the 2nd. Though if they stay at #30 and one of the O-linemen projected to go in the 15-25 range drops, I would be way OK with that. Not a sexy pick, but the kind of pick that championship teams are built on. I am *always* ok with increasing offensive line depth.  (Apr 29, 2015 | post #11)

Green Bay Packers

NFL draft

See, this is why I don't make predictions. I think we can cross Shane Ray off the list after his citation for pot possession. I should just get on the Eric Kendricks bandwagon and be done with it.  (Apr 29, 2015 | post #8)

Green Bay Packers

NFL draft

I said that it would be silly to make predictions as to who the first rounder would be, but in this scenariothe two names that have a decent possibility of falling, and which I think Thompson would jump at, would be Shane Ray or Malcom Brown. If either is available, I can't see the Packers passing. Brown would fill the DL need (arguably not an immediate need but it's there) while Ray would be someone to get excited about. Even if he's not recovered from his injury, you have Peppers' replacement right there (or keep Matthews inside). Now THAT, at least on paper, would be a scary combination: can you imagine Peppers, Matthews, and Ray all on the field at the same time?  (Apr 27, 2015 | post #5)

Green Bay Packers

NFL draft

You know, historically this has been a time of the year I look forward to (I love the intrigue of the draft) but it's just hard to get excited about it this year. Mostly due to the Packers' success resulting in picking at the end of the round, I suspect. It almost seems pointless to try to predict who the Packers will take with their first round pick, since we have no idea who will be available by that point. It's so easy to say "they need an ILB" or "they need a corner" but I have a feeling it might be like the 2005 draft all over again, which worked out pretty well when we drafted that Rodgers guy, which no one could have predicted. Drafting for need can easily result in the team reaching, which is how you end up with Christian Ponder (sorry Vikings). Because Thompson has built this team on picking the BPA (which I 100% agree with), I think it'll unfold one of three ways: 1. Thompson gets a trade down offer to drop say 8 to 10 picks, and picks up an extra 4th rounder or something. 2. Someone drops to the point where Thompson sees a huge value (someone he had rated as a mid first rounder) and he takes him at #30 regardless of position. 3. Thompson stays where they are and picks the BPA, leaning toward a position of need. The way I see it... the obvious two areas of need are at ILB and CB, which actually works out pretty well for the trade down scenario since there is a lot of depth in the draft for those positions from the late first round to the second round. For that reason, I think the best move would be to trade down so that Thompson can pick up another mid round pick to work his magic with. In those areas, there's not that much difference between the late first round talent and the late second round talent. So, if by the end of round 2, the Packers end up with one player from each of the below groups: ILB: Benardrick McKinney/Eric Kendricks/Stephone Anthony/Denzel Perryman/Paul Dawson CB: Marcus Peters/Jalen Collins/Kevin Johnson/Byron Jones/Eric Rowe/P.J. Williams/Ronald Darby I would say that's a win, especially if Thompson can get an extra pick or two out of the deal later on. Of course, having said all that, Thompson will probably pick an o-lineman or receiver. And you know what? I'm ok with that, because he knows what he's doing.  (Apr 27, 2015 | post #4)

Green Bay Packers

Packers re-sign defensive linemen Letroy Guion, B.J. Raji

Why is the "farts guy" from Houston going on and on about fake IPs anyway? I must have missed something. Did the flatulence reports get boring?  (Apr 3, 2015 | post #5)

Green Bay Packers

Mariota to Bears?

There, I asked the question. Since it's pretty silly to try to predict what the Packers will do with their first round pick (like anyone has any idea who will be left at that point, and Ted is notorious for taking BPA or trading down), I was wondering about this. The various mocks are all over the board on Mariota. Some have him going second, some have him going 5ish, some have him in the teens, and I saw one that had him slipping out of the first round entirely. So, I got to thinking. Nobody is going to be able to tell me with a straight face that the Bears are planning around Cutler being their QB for 2016. So, they are going to have to start planning ahead. So... I ask this. If Mariota slips to pick 7 (which I don't think will happen since I think someone will trade up to take him earlier), what do you think the chances are that the Bears take him? I think you could make the case that it would be a need pick and good value.  (Mar 31, 2015 | post #1)

Green Bay Packers

Free Agency, NFL Draft, and the Packers

Yeah, well apparently I can't count. 5 starters (A. Rodgers, B. Bulaga, D. Jones, C. Matthews, and H. Clinton-Dix) were first round picks, not 4. My bad. Still, it kind of speaks for itself. And if you were wondering, I have Raji signing somewhere else. That's why he's not in the list.... I think the Packers will go with Guion. And no, I don't really thing C. Bradford will be a starting ILB, at least not this year. They'll probably draft someone (personally, tipping my draft hand early, I'm hoping they can get Eric Kendricks) Gotta go with who they have on the roster now though :-)  (Mar 23, 2015 | post #4)

Green Bay Packers

Free Agency, NFL Draft, and the Packers

I was reading an article about teams building through free agency as opposed to the draft, and it got me thinking. The Packers have a reputation of building from within, and Ted Thompson is famous for not giving up his draft picks. How does this play out when you look at it? Because I like to have everything right in front of me, I started with a list of the projected Packers starters for 2015 (which really don't look much different than the starters from 2014). Then, I listed how they were acquired. That's where things got interesting. On paper, the Packers always seem to have two strikes against them: (1) They don't sign big name free agents (2) They never have a high pick in the draft (happens when you keep winning your division year after year) Yet, they have built an awfully good team without the benefit of either of those "weapons ". As I made up this list, I realized something I had never thought about... not only are the Packers made up primarily of drafted players (or street free agents), but not a single one of the starters was drafted higher than pick #21 in the first round. In fact, there are only 4 out of the 24 starters that were even drafted in the first round. Packers starters QB A. Rodgers, D1, 24th overall pick RB E. Lacy, D2, 61st overall pick WR J. Nelson D2, 36th overall pick WR R. Cobb D2, 64th overall pick WR D. Adams D2, 53rd overall pick TE R. Rodgers D3, 98th overall pick LT D. Bakthiari D4, 109th overall pick LG J. Sitton D4, 135th overall pick C C. Linsley D5, 161st overall pick RG T. Lang D4, 109th overall pick RT B. Bulaga, D1, 23rd overall pick K M. Crosby D6, 194th overall pick DE D. Jones D1, 26th overall pick NT L. Guion, unrestricted free agent DE M. Daniels, D4, 132nd overall pick LB C. Matthews, D1, 26th overall pick LB S. Barrington D7, 232nd overall pick LB C. Bradford, D4, 121st overall pick LB J. Peppers, unrestricted free agent S H. Clinton-Dix D1, 21st overall pick S M. Burnett, D3, 71st overall pick CB S. Shields, street free agent CB C. Hayward, D2, 62nd overall pick P T. Masthay, street free agent Only 2 UFAs in the list (and honestly Guion was pretty much a street free agent). Expanding a bit, here are some contributors (guys who have started or are pretty integral to the team) FB J. Kuhn, street free agent RB J. Starks, D6, 193rd overall pick DE M. Neal, D2, 56th overall pick TE A. Quarless, D5, 154th overall pick LB N. Perry. D1, 28th overall pick FS M. Hyde, D5, 159th overall pick OL J. Tretter, D5, 122nd overall pick This, my friends, is how you build a football team. I'd say Thompson has a pretty damn good record of drafting quality players, especially when most of the time his first round pick is toward the end of the round, only a few places off from being a second rounder. You don't need to make a splash in free agency or have a marquee top 10 draft pick when you're consistently finding talent later.  (Mar 20, 2015 | post #1)

Green Bay Packers

Williams back to GB?

Shaking my head at this one... granted Tramon's still a pretty good player, but why would you pay him $7 million a year when you didn't want to give Buster Skrine, who is 6 years younger and has more upside, $6 million a year? And we wonder why the Browns never seem to go anywhere.  (Mar 16, 2015 | post #5)