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put it this way Classical Liberalism(Part of a series on Capitalism) rejects all government intervention in economical matters and rejects Modern US Pseudo Liberalism as we know as US Liberalism today. Classical liberalism is a political philosophy and ideology that emerged as a response to the Industrial Revolution and urbanization in the 19th century in Europe and the United States. It shares a number of beliefs with other belief systems belonging to liberalism, advocating civil liberties and political freedom, limited government, rule of law, and belief in free market. Classical liberalism is built on ideas that had already arisen by the end of the 18th century, such as selected ideas of Adam Smith, John Locke, Jean-Baptiste Say, Thomas Malthus, and David Ricardo, stressing the belief in free market and natural law, utilitarianism, and progress. Classical liberals were more suspicious than conservatives of all but the most minimal government and, adopting Thomas Hobbes's theory of government, they believed government had been created by individuals to protect themselves from one another. Classical liberalism http://en.wikipedi a.org/wiki/Classic al_liberalism Classical Liberalism vs. Modern Liberalism and Modern Conservatism Classical Liberalism as an Ideology Classical liberalism was the political philosophy of the Founding Fathers. It permeates the Constitution, the Federalist Papers and many other documents produced by the people who created the American system of government. Many emancipationists who opposed slavery were essentially classical liberals, as were the suffragettes, who fought for equal rights for women. Basically, classical liberalism is based on a belief in liberty. Even today, one of the clearest statements of this philosophy is found in the Declaration of Independence. In 1776, most people believed that rights came from government. People thought they had only such rights as government elected to give them. But following British philosopher John Locke, Jefferson argued that it’s the other way around. People have rights apart from government, as part of their nature. Further, people can both form governments and dissolve them. The only legitimate purpose of government is to protect these rights. The 19th century was the century of classical liberalism. Partly for that reason it was also the century of ever-increasing economic and political liberty, relative international peace, relative price stability and unprecedented economic growth. By contrast, the 20th century was the century that rejected classical liberalism. Partly for that reason, it was the century of dictatorship, depression and war. Nearly 265 million people were killed by their own governments (in addition to all the deaths from wars!) in the 20th century – more than in any previous century and possibly more than in all previous centuries combined http://www.ncpa.or g/pub/classical-li beralism-vs-modern -liberalism-and-mo dern-conservatism  (17 min ago | post #908310)

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I will have to get it which I have seen it before but your right his policies extended the Depression and why FDR was considered acting & becoming like a conservative because FDR refused to change policy and FDR was the one that redefined the what it meant to be a liberal besides the Conservatives prior to FDR where actually True Liberals(what today is known as the Classical Sense) and rejected change and everything that FDR stood for.  (43 min ago | post #908281)

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I wondered because I had asked Marauder but he didn't know.  (1 hr ago | post #107814)

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Obama hasn't done nothing yet on a level compared to what FDR did which FDR with the help Stalin & Trotsky put the US on the path towards Leninism after FDR's Advisors came back from the meeting in Russia besides Fascism & Nazism reject Leninism.  (2 hrs ago | post #908197)

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yeah somebody else told me that too  (12 hrs ago | post #107766)

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what ever happened to Highlander.  (12 hrs ago | post #107764)

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It's the Guns, Stupid

if you take your numbers that you posted and at those rates and take those percentages multiply them to get the population equivalent to the US, Australia and UK murder rates would be terrible compared to the US if the UK & Australia had the same population as the US.  (13 hrs ago | post #107758)

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I can believe it they say that was the US Federal Governments intentions with HAARP. High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program http://en.wikipedi a.org/wiki/High_Fr equency_Active_Aur oral_Research_Prog ram Weather modification http://en.wikipedi a.org/wiki/Weather _Modification  (16 hrs ago | post #907878)

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that is how the modern New Left Democrats think and handles situations like that just look at all the kids that got killed today 5/20/2013 in Moore Oklahoma which is more than in Newtown Connecticut go killed and you don't see the Democrats on the News making an issue out of that like Newtown.  (16 hrs ago | post #907877)

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It's the Guns, Stupid

QUOTE who="spocko "]<quoted text> You got your history seriously bungled old chap; The Communist Party of the Soviet Union did not emerge until the end of the Bolsheviks and the bloody civil war in 1922. The Bolsheviks orchestrated the October Revolution which overthrew the Provisional Government, thus transferring all governing power to the workers' councils (Russian: soviets). Immediately thereafter, the Bolsheviks founded the Russian Socialist Federative Soviet Republic - the world's first constitutionally socialist state. After a bloody civil war, at the end of 1922 the Bolsheviks emerged victorious and unified territories of the former Russian Empire into the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR). I seriously doubt that your man Lincoln had anything to do with it :-)[/QUOTE] here is what you said in post 107726 that communism emerge at the end of the Bolsheviks and the bloody civil war in 1922.  (16 hrs ago | post #107745)

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I know you are right on this issue that true Communism has never existed just in name.  (16 hrs ago | post #107744)

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another School Fatality where is the democrats, we need laws to ban Tornados. Dozens killed as tornado tears through Oklahoma, leaving miles of debris http://usnews.nbcn ews.com/_news/2013 /05/20/18375741-at -least-37-killed-a s-tornado-tears-th rough-oklahoma-lea ving-miles-of-debr is?lite  (17 hrs ago | post #907852)

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You got your history seriously bungled old chap Karl Marx was dead when Vladimir Lenin implemented the so called communism in Russia which was no where near True Communism but a form of Socialism that incorporates totalitarianism with no chances of achieving Communism but what is known today as Leninism and not Communism and why sociologist defined what Lenin said was communism but as Leninism and when Lenin died Stalin took over and implemented the worst form of Socialism that incorporates totalitarianism which sociologist call Stalinism which is not even close to true communism. Leninism In Marxist philosophy, Leninism is the body of political theory for the democratic organisation of a revolutionary vanguard party, and the achievement of a direct-democracy dictatorship of the proletariat, as political prelude to the establishment of socialism. Developed by, and named for, the Russian revolutionary Lenin (Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov, 1870–1924), Leninism comprises political and socialist economic theories, developed from Marxism, and Lenin’s interpretations of Marxist theory, for practical application to the socio-political conditions of the agrarian Russian Empire (1721–1917) of the early 20th century. In February 1917, for five years, Leninism was the Russian application of Marxist economics and political philosophy, effected and realised by the Bolshevik party, the vanguard party who led the fight for the political independence of the working class. http://en.wikipedi a.org/wiki/Leninis m Stalinism Stalinism is a theory and practice for developing a communist society, conceived and implemented by Joseph Stalin in the Soviet Union whilst officially adhering to Marxist–Leninism. Some criticize Stalinist practical measures, such as repression and economic policy, as a deviation from both Marxist and Leninist philosophy. Stalinist policies in the Soviet Union included: rapid industrialization, socialism in one country, a centralized state, collectivization of agriculture, and subordination of interests of other communist parties to those of the Soviet party - deemed to be the most forefront vanguard party of communist revolution at the time. https://en.wikiped ia.org/wiki/Stalin ism  (18 hrs ago | post #107735)

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Your right about the negative perspective if you go back during the time of Lincoln when the 14th amendment was written by the progressive Republicans, the progressive Republicans & Lincoln had to contend with the US Constitution which prior to the 14th amendment Blacks weren't considered equal to whites and the 14th amendment was the start of Lincoln & the progressive Republican's weakening & rewriting of the US Constitution along with the implementation & experimentation of Communism & equality in the US because in True Communism in Theory everyone is equal which is why Lincoln & the Republicans favored Communism over Capitalism which is what the south or the confederate states were for and Washington DC became the totalitarian central which was the reason behind why the Civil War started to begin with because of the progressive republicans forcing change on the Southern states way of life and after the Civil War the southern states lived under Totalitarianism under the Control of Washington DC & the progressive Republicans. An Unfinished Revolution: Karl Marx and Abraham Lincoln http://www.versobo oks.com/books/954- an-unfinished-revo lution  (22 hrs ago | post #107725)

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Shredding the Constitution: Obama’s attack on the media http://www.washing tonpost.com/blogs/ right-turn/wp/2013 /05/20/shredding-t he-constitution-ob amas-attack-on-the -associated-press/  (Yesterday | post #907522)

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