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NON-EUROPEAN ORIGIN of the Shiptars!

The Bulgarians(modern macedonians) crossed the Danube before the reign of Justinian, and kept constantly pouring down from the vast plains of Poland, Lithuania, and Russia, during the sixth century; and they continued gradually gaining ground in the fine countries of Macedonia and Illyria, until the fall of the Byzantine empire.  (Aug 7, 2012 | post #94)

Albania

NON-EUROPEAN ORIGIN of the Shiptars!

but you are bulgarians what exactly makes u ancient macedonian??? from the same book you .... Besides the three great families of Turks, Greeks, and Albanians, there are to be found, in the Greek provinces of European Turkey, two other tribes, equally distinct from these and from each other, though infinitely less numerous. These are the Bulgarians and the Vlachs. The Bulgarians are a race of Sclavonian origin, and are supposed by some to have been a tribe of the Huns. Their physical appearance is totally different from that of the Greeks and Albanians. More powerful in form, they are of a heavy build, while their features are coarser, and devoid of the acute and intelligent expression which is so remarkable in the Greek and even in the Albanian physiognomy. The Bulgarians are brave but cruel, strong workmen, but brutal in their habits and manners; and the best and most advantageous of their characteristics is their aptness for country labour. They are, in fact, the best agriculturists of European Turkey: diligent husbandmen, they have consequently spread their colonies partly over Thrace, and partially even in Macedonia; although in the middle ages they had extended them over the greatest part of what is called now European Turkey. are we clear now my bulgarian neighbour  (Aug 7, 2012 | post #93)

Albania

GEORGIOS KASTRIOTIS a Greek national hero of Albania

she makes statement based what is wrote on the barleti's book and in her analises of the book she is very clear epiri and albania are one  (Aug 7, 2012 | post #2637)

Albania

GEORGIOS KASTRIOTIS a Greek national hero of Albania

hahahahaha you a are petty... you forgot to mention the part when she says albania and epirus are interchangable,whe n she says pirro and alexander are heroes to the country you still forget to mention that..yet you forget to mention the history of albanians which barleti connect with hercules and hyllus you are such an ignorant how dare you have the courage even mention that.. i have a word for you 'pathetic'  (Aug 6, 2012 | post #2632)

Albania

GEORGIOS KASTRIOTIS a Greek national hero of Albania

WTF what you trying to say by this do you make any point ??? yet even by this you cant seperate epirus from albania,..... do you really understand english ???????  (Aug 6, 2012 | post #2623)

Albania

GEORGIOS KASTRIOTIS a Greek national hero of Albania

i think u only read what you like to read i said the book is translated in albanian..as for bardhi (blanchus) is wroten in 1635 in venezia i dont know what is your point  (Aug 6, 2012 | post #2622)

Albania

GEORGIOS KASTRIOTIS a Greek national hero of Albania

how do you know albanian translation is not accurate ????is accepted by all historians...  (Aug 5, 2012 | post #2618)

Albania

GEORGIOS KASTRIOTIS a Greek national hero of Albania

hahahahaha as i said it hasnt been translated in english but part of it are translated and annalised by historian minna scafte jensen of university of coppenhagen i gave you the link albania and epiri were the same thing at the time another example of that ill give is dictionarium-latin o-epiroticum by frank bardhi in 1635 when is clearly wroten albania=arben,epir us=arbeni,epirote= l'arbenesee  (Aug 5, 2012 | post #2617)

Albania

GEORGIOS KASTRIOTIS a Greek national hero of Albania

now ill give you some parts of the barletis book which i owe in latin ...... Colchidis/etia portione incoluet/ut quada origine traxiflfe dicuntur/a quibus fer/ monem Albanu/seu epiroticu fluxisse^(ut mea fert opinio} no male fortasse quis dixerit/quum ibi fex 8i. dece linguas uigere strabo referat/dceo^ quoq; otigine cum Pius Poncifex diuini humanic^ iurifperitifTimus/ tum nonulii reccndo^i/qui Trogum Pompeiu funt fecuti eade fere senserunt/rrogus.n .Pompeius Albano§i origine italica elfe dicit/ AlTerens Albanos Hercule ex Italia abfcedcnte fccutos fuilie/Cum is Gerionis Armenta in Italia dcduda in Aibano monte pafcui fertili tate Pelle(stusaliqtifp cr habuiifet/ab his igitur Albani oi ti funt/quo^: pars hodie in Peloponefo.pars in Macedonia/siue Albania/& Epiro fedet/ho^ aut princeps/ est/Georgius Scanderbeg?magnani mus/& inuistus Solus quodamodo regione illa in euangelica Christi fide coti/ nuit/fed nunc ad ppofitia nostra recurrat oratio/Arianites Ihopia Golemus(arianites thopia golemus are all albanian tribes) thats an example albania is equal with epiri monstly he called epir but albania as well even discribes the origin of albanians too ...  (Aug 4, 2012 | post #2613)

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GEORGIOS KASTRIOTIS a Greek national hero of Albania

scendetrbeg survived as hero in albania which was never forgoten he survived at arberesh community in italy and evry where..where albanian community(they all speaking albanian) lived these are facts not bullshit you are posting in here and put the source where do you get this crap  (Aug 4, 2012 | post #2612)

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GEORGIOS KASTRIOTIS a Greek national hero of Albania

for more of barletis book read this A Heroic Tale: Marin Barleti's Scanderbeg between orality and literacy By Minna Skafte Jensen To the memory of Androkli Kostallari Minna Skafte Jensen (b. 1937) Ass. professor of Greek and Latin, Copenhagen University, 1969-93. Professor of Greek and Latin, University of Southern Denmark, 1993-2003. Member of the Danish, Norwegian and Belgian Academies of Sciences and Letters. Main fields of research: Archaic Greek epic and the oral-formulaic theory; Renaissance Latin poetry in Denmark. Miqësia thanks for the permission to publish the article in Danish, English and Albanian.  (Aug 4, 2012 | post #2611)

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GEORGIOS KASTRIOTIS a Greek national hero of Albania

since you mentioned barleti i wonder if you ever read the book is translated in albanian not in english but part of it are translated by the historian Minna Skafte Jensen ... taken from the book Albanu/seu epiroticu...which means albans or epiriots so read the right books and you will learn epiri never belonged to greece  (Aug 4, 2012 | post #2610)

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GEORGIOS KASTRIOTIS a Greek national hero of Albania

its obvious you ignoring the greatest historian such as gibbon ...With that established, let us turn our attension to the actual origins of the Kastrioti family. One place commonly held to be the place of origin for the Kastrioti family is Kastoria in Greek Macedonia. As can be seen by Hodgkinson's treatment of the question, this theory does not even fit with Greek claims. Kastor, the root for Kastoria, is a Hellenic word for beaver and Kastoria has long been known for its furs. Clearly on can see that Kastor does not fit with Kastrion, meaning castle or citadel. Furthermore, there is no documentation whatsoever for the Kastrioti family having its origins in Kastoria. Now before we begin with further examination, here are some pictures to get one familiar with the geography: molov unfurtunately i cant post the maps in here but ill give you the link if you wish...... Marinus Barletius, who is the most original and authoritative source on Scanderbeg, places the origins of the Kastrioti family in Northern Albanian when he says, "John Kastrioti is from an old house of Mat".(mat is aerea in northen albania) P. Lukari and E. Fermenxhin both trace the Kastrioti famliy back to the Has region where according to them there existed a place called Kastri. There also follows that nearby was a place called Mazrrek, and that a second surname of the Kastrioti's could have been Mazrreku, or Mazarreku. The Kastriot location in the Dibra area is also a possible place of origin for the Kastriotis, but as Fan Noli points out, it is not clear wether the Kastriotis took there name for the place, or the place from them. Another common place of origin is said to be the Kastrat area just northwest of Shkoder, which should also not be ignored. Athanas Gegaj tells us that the Kastrioti's are from Kastri in Mirdite. Notice that all the above places are in northern Albania. Also in the below we can see that the Kastrioti family is given as Albanian by a heraldry page that even lists Charles Hopf as one of its sources! Furthermore it informs us that in all certainly, the Kastrioti family begins with John, Scanderbeg's father: http://www.heraldi ca.org/topics/nati onal/a...a.htm#cas triota hope you learned something today  (Aug 4, 2012 | post #2603)

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Albania=Tosks VS Ghegs!Which nation will prevail?

you admited u are dark skinned be4 ..i bet ur mother is ugly greek ciunt  (Aug 2, 2012 | post #711)

Albania

GEORGIOS KASTRIOTIS a Greek national hero of Albania

hey molotov since there is no historical books or enciclopedy in australia about scanderbeg ill try to teach you then is up to you to read the right books brittanica online Skanderbeg Skanderbeg, byname of George Kastrioti, or Castriota, Albanian Gjergj Kastrioti (born 1405, northern Albania—died Jan. 17, 1468, Lezhë, Albania), national hero of the Albanians. A son of John (Gjon) Kastrioti, prince of Emathia, George was early given as hostage to the Turkish sultan. Converted to Islām and educated at Edirne, Turkey, he was given the name Iskander—after Alexander the Great—and the rank of bey (hence Skanderbeg) by Sultan Murad II. During the defeat of the Turks at Niš (1443), in Serbia, Skanderbeg abandoned the Turkish service and joined his Albanian countrymen against the ... (100 of 246 words)  (Aug 2, 2012 | post #2598)