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Morehead, KY

Can I get an HONEST response?

all reasons and all should be considered. I hate to generalize but extremes are polarizing. Some people like very hot weather or very cold weather, MOST prefer something in between. The Tea Party is extreme right and as such anyone left of center is likely to not be a fan and some right of center may also disagree and even feel that by the extreme stance of the tea party their beliefs are compromised by the extremes.  (Friday Apr 11 | post #6)

Morehead, KY

Shoving team mates

yes, obviously it is. Teammates have greater allowances in regards to contact than to opposing players. To my knowledge a foul is never called when teammates collide. Side note, I think it was a "dick" move but in front of 70k + thousand communications are a challenge.  (Wednesday Apr 9 | post #2)

Morehead, KY

Lesbian Sex

so, God makes people gay and gives them someone to love in the same fashion you believe God gives heterosexuals but it is a mortal sin when gay people act upon that love? Interesting theory really  (Mar 6, 2014 | post #60)

Hazard, KY

Another man raising my child, what to do!?

maybe I missed it, is this supposed to have any meaning? please explain.  (Mar 5, 2014 | post #22)

Morehead, KY

Lesbian Sex

Ok, I read it, read it again and then still can't believe that is the basis for any point you would choose to defend. There are holes in it you cannot imagine. Because the "add to humanity" aspect is more subjective and more involved I will leave that aspect of your post for later. Let's begin with the premise of reproduction. Thanks to medical advancement a loving couple can raise a child to adulthood with DNA contributed from a member of the opposite sex without that combination happening the traditional way. We can all agree there are many many children just praying for a loving family to help them in life. Additionally, I would love to hear your perspective on people that continue the species by producing impaired children with little change at propagation or better still the heterosexual couples that are incapable of having children. What of the people that produce monsters? The parents of murders, rapists and other detriments to society? What of the people that produce offspring that have a negative impact on the continuation of our species? As to the contributions to society, have you never considered the countless contributions of the homosexual community in the arts and humanities? If laughter truly is the best medicine consider the greatness done by homosexual comedian Ellen DeGeneres. While I'm not a particular fan of her's I can certainly acknowledge that she is funny and makes many people laugh. Have you considered the contribution of Sir Elton John? How many platinum hits has that man written? Sang? How many lives has he touched and made better just by expressing himself? What are we to do then with the heterosexual that does nothing more than work a miserable job in anonymity? What contribution has that person made? What contribution did Hitler or Mau or Kim Jong-Un make? Is there any aspect of your comment that is valid? Any portion of your surficial post that you actually put some thought into before sharing? In what way is it ok to judge anyone for who they love as long as the person they love is capable of making their own decisions? Why is it anyone's business as long as they are both consenting adults?  (Mar 3, 2014 | post #57)

Morehead, KY

No medical treatment due to religious belief

I still have the same stance. I don't have a uterus, I don't have the right to tell another person what to do with theirs. I don't think I should make someone have a baby when they think they shouldn't.  (Feb 22, 2014 | post #27)

Morehead, KY

No medical treatment due to religious belief

this isn't hospital pneumonia, this is not a case of resistant bacterial infection. I appreciate the research but it doesn't really apply to this situation. The children that died did not acquire the infection that ended their lives while under medical care.  (Feb 22, 2014 | post #25)

Morehead, KY

No medical treatment due to religious belief

the "harsh" part of my comment didn't have anything to do with faith. You said you didn't think that child dying was as harsh as an abortion. It's not about Christians, I'm not attacking the faith. I see it as a double standard. Undoubtedly these people and other Christians are against abortion, they are quick to condemn the people that have abortions and the people that aren't against them but for these people none of that condemnation. Why? I know not all Christians are not "against " medicine. I also know that sometimes people die from pneumonia even when they are treated. Here's something else I know. IF a person let their dog die because they refused to give it medical treatment the authorities would have taken their other animals. I'm really not about knit picking your statements apart. I wish we could have this discussion face to face, I feel much is lost in this electronic medium but this is the best we have. I understood what you meant and wouldn't have latched onto that little thing. I have seen so much said, hateful words, about folks that don't oppose abortion and yet none of that here for these parents that condemned their children to a horrible death. The hypocrisy is what I find frustrating. You ask what I want. What I want isn't possible. I want those kids to still be alive. Since that isn't possible I want their remaining children to live, to grow and to have as good a life as possible. I want them to never have the chance to treat a child dying with pneumonia with baby powder. The prison time isn't what's important to me, the remaining children are. I apologize, it was not my intent to attack you or to offend. Despite what has been said I get really upset when horrible avoidable things happen to kids. I have no gripe with Christians or any religion for that matter. I respect others beliefs but in doing so I want that same respect for mine.  (Feb 22, 2014 | post #24)

Grayson, KY

Anna McGlone

sent a friend req. so you would know who I am.  (Feb 22, 2014 | post #6)

Grayson, KY

Anna McGlone

I did find you on fb. didn't send a request though. MSU was a 100 yrs ago and more sometimes. Someone from that time looked me up and in the course of talking your name came up. I was feeling a little nostalgic so I thought of looking you up.  (Feb 22, 2014 | post #5)

Morehead, KY

No medical treatment due to religious belief

these figures aren't mine, someone else provided them. I hate to point out the obvious but in your case I feel like I have to. As far as I am aware being a "Christian " does not have any correlation to a person's state of health. Your question about "the percent of millions of christians compared to 2 deaths" is about as relevant as the hair color of traffic fatalities. The obvious point is that of the 37million seeking medical treatment and 197k that died, all were not in the best of health. Otherwise they would not have been seeking medical treatment. Had your question been of the millions of Christians that became ill and survived compared to the number of Christians that died then you would have made a valid query.  (Feb 22, 2014 | post #19)

Morehead, KY

No medical treatment due to religious belief

Thanks for sharing the verses. I can't understand your point of harshness though. I cannot imagine that watching a child die in this manner is not harsh. Either way the child is dead, is this really somehow less heinous? The children of these parents died of pneumonia. Pneumonia is an infection within the lung and has many symptoms, none of which might suggest this is a gentle way to die.  (Feb 22, 2014 | post #18)

Morehead, KY

No medical treatment due to religious belief

Ok, so follow your own advice. Try to keep up. You are attempting to compare apples and watermelons. In the Travolta case the withholding of medication MAY have contributed to the cause of death, injury sustained in a fall. In the Penn case the parents withheld medication which would have saved the child's life. Again, read what I wrote, please before you become snippy and detract from a serious topic of discussion. Ann had a complete response in which she discussed the Penn case, YOU decided to focus on just the speculation on the Scientology portion of her response and then had a huge response on it. Here's the try and keep up part. Your contention is that nothing was done to the Travolta family but the Penn family faced legal punishment. I am going to try to make these two situation the same even though they aren't. The Penn family lost TWO kids, they are only going to jail for violation of a court order in connection with the loss of the second child. If the Travolta family had lost a second child and there were a court order in place requiring medical treatment for similar conditions then the cases would be the same. I am not trying to be disrespectful but you decided to come off like a fool. I read the Penn article, did you? I read Ann's response, all of it. You focused on just one portion of it and ignored the fact that this Penn family has killed their children in the name of their religious interpretation of the Scripture. If you want to make this about the Travoltas or about the state of medical treatment, feel free to do so. I even invite you to start your own thread. I see your stats about 197k deaths in 37 million cases and I just wonder. Do you understand the percentages involved? 197k deaths are is a large number but in comparison to 37million it's a small percentage. You make it seem as if folks are better off with prayer and witch doctors.  (Feb 21, 2014 | post #15)

Morehead, KY

No medical treatment due to religious belief

I agree that the case in California is one to give us cause for caution but how many tonsillectomies are done without fatality being the result? Where are your statistics? I am not trying to be a jerk or pick apart your stance. I respect your stance but I am suspicious of statistics and would like to see where you got yours. I also agree that there really is no sure treatment for anything but this case doesn't involve any surgery or anesthesia as far as I am aware, both of which increase the chance for complications in any medical procedure. There are still a fair amount of questions concerning the California case. That little girl had many other health issues and her tonsils were not the only reason for the surgery. As I understand it the apnea issue made the procedure much more potentially dangerous.  (Feb 20, 2014 | post #10)

Morehead, KY

No medical treatment due to religious belief

I would like to point out that you are WRONG. The Penn. parents didn't go to prison after the death of their first. They may have served some jail time but I'm sure that's more a function of their not being famous and extremely wealthy than what religion they belong to. They only face jail time after the SECOND child died. So, I submit that Ann is actually right, the response if the religion had been scientology instead of some Christian based denomination being much different is correct. YOU didn't say anything condemning concerning the penn parents and went into quite a case for the Travolta parents being wrong and particularly John. Seems to me Ann you have proven your point. Again, no condemnation, no accusation and especially no damnation for the death of these two children but certainly those and more for others(especially the NON Christian others). I was really just very curious what people would say about parents letting their children die in the name of Jesus. So far, I can see that the "good Christians" are uncomfortable with the reality of hypocrisy all too common within the church. I don't believe God would allow us the means to protect our children from and easily treatable disease but want us to force them to endure a horrible death.  (Feb 20, 2014 | post #9)