Trayvon Martin Debate - Richlands, VA

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#127
Apr 5, 2012
 
Wow wrote:
There were also witnesses that gave testimony to hearing Martin yelling....the teacher thar made one of the 911 calls. A child that saw BOTH men on the ground, but seperated. the 16yr old girl that gave her statement of Martin being afraid. Did Zimmerman just walk up and shoot Martin? Im not convinced of that, but because of the slurs he made under his breath on 911 calls and Martin being suspicious because he had on a hoodie?? It was raining!! I do believe is should be held accountable for his actions in some way or another.
Strangers in hoodies that have no apparent reason to be standing out in the rain within a gated community (that had been the target of several burglaries) should be considered suspect. Martin was talking on a headset; therefore, it was impossible to even tell if Martin was on the phone. It probably looked like he was checking out houses to potentially rob. He would have looked suspicious regardless of his race to a neighborhood watch.
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#128
Apr 5, 2012
 
Wow wrote:
you argue that zimmerman feared his life, which I dont buy...yet I could argue that Martin feared his life as well. Doesn't make either of us correct. That's the beauty of opinions....we have a right to give our thoughts, debate them, and then let the authorities decide. And sometimes we win and justice is served either to your liking or mine. And then sometimes we are let down by the judicial system. Regardless I am saddened by this and hope that the Martin family find some,kid of peace. It is a tragedy and no matter the outcome....each of us will encounter judgement for our actions by someone far greater than law officials. With that being said ...i hope you all have a great evening!!!:)
It's not important whether you "buy" that Zimmerman feared for his life. If you were being attacked, were legally carrying a firearm, and on the verge of being knocked out, I think you would fear for your life. If you wouldn't, you are suicidal.
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#129
Apr 5, 2012
 
By the way, you are entitled to your opinion, but you should want to be of the opinion that is supported by facts available to us. I don't understand you nor do I really care to.
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#130
Apr 5, 2012
 
Omg....His FATHER was staying inside that gated community and he wasn't standing....he was walking back from the store. You criticize me, yet you make no sense yourself ...spouting your opinion based on what YOU believe facts are...leaving out bits and pieces to validate your posts. Lol....it's truly funny that you criticize others for not having your views. You make it sound as if Martin was just hanging around. Lol....say what you will....i believe what I believe no matter how ugly and nasty you want to get. I know what it's like to be harassed because of the color of your skin. I know what it's like to walk in a,store with the ABILITY to buy whatever and be followed around like you were doing something wrong...and NO I don't have a criminal record. 1 of the 4 suspects in the break-ins in that community was African-American....NOT ALL like Zimmerman claimed. Racial profiling that led to a young boy's life taken and his side not being heard!!! Yes he is guilty....maybe not of murder as ive stated before....but I agree with the detective that wanted manslaughter charges. There are corrupt law enforcement!! Now go ahead and bash me, call names, and whatever else it is you do....im STILL a supporter of JUSTICE FOR TRAYVON!!!! Goodnight and God Bless!!!:)
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#131
Apr 5, 2012
 
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Omg....His FATHER was staying inside that gated community and he wasn't standing....he was walking back from the store. You criticize me, yet you make no sense yourself ...spouting your opinion based on what YOU believe facts are...leaving out bits and pieces to validate your posts. Lol....it's truly funny that you criticize others for not having your views. You make it sound as if Martin was just hanging around. Lol....say what you will....i believe what I believe no matter how ugly and nasty you want to get. I know what it's like to be harassed because of the color of your skin. I know what it's like to walk in a,store with the ABILITY to buy whatever and be followed around like you were doing something wrong...and NO I don't have a criminal record. 1 of the 4 suspects in the break-ins in that community was African-American....NOT ALL like Zimmerman claimed. Racial profiling that led to a young boy's life taken and his side not being heard!!! Yes he is guilty....maybe not of murder as ive stated before....but I agree with the detective that wanted manslaughter charges. There are corrupt law enforcement!! Now go ahead and bash me, call names, and whatever else it is you do....im STILL a supporter of JUSTICE FOR TRAYVON!!!! Goodnight and God Bless!!!:)
I never said he was standing and you never have provided any logic supporting your opinion.

You are making assumptions, as are many other followers, that Martin was a victim of racial profiling that led to his murder.

It doesn't matter if he was simply profiled. Anyone on watch has to profile someone who is acting suspicious as suspicious.

Regardless, Zimmerman defended his right to live that night.

That is what ALL the evidence points towards. Show me or tell me something else that cannot be reasonably repudiated.

I don't think you can.

I haven't read anything you've wrote that incriminates Zimmerman.

I haven't read anything from you even proving that Zimmerman was a racist. All the information we have available shows him to be the opposite--a caring compassionate person.

Don't you think that someone who he has pissed off before in the past would be coming forward at this point to provide information indicating his racist views?
TRUTH

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#132
Apr 5, 2012
 
...standing while he was shot is what I meant.

He was standing there. Listen to the police call from Zimmerman to the police on the non-emergency call.

He didn't stand long with his hand in his waistband. He started to run.
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#133
Apr 5, 2012
 
Time magizine has Martin on there cover it says national outrage and national tradgedy! Truth pick it up then argue your ignorance with there editors ! Time isn't known to be a liberal mag so argue with them! My girlfreind and best freind are black!! We have been freinds since kindergarten and racism Alive
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#135
Apr 5, 2012
 
Dan Hallen wrote:
Time magizine has Martin on there cover it says national outrage and national tradgedy! Truth pick it up then argue your ignorance with there editors ! Time isn't known to be a liberal mag so argue with them! My girlfreind and best freind are black!! We have been freinds since kindergarten and racism Alive
There may be new information that has come to light.

If Zimmerman still hasn't been arrested (I don't think he has), there must not be a strong base of information indicating his guilt.

Time must not have acquired this since Zimmerman is still free.

Time is not above twisting a story. By the sound of the title you referenced, it sounds like a report on the twisted nature of the media frenzy that has ensued.
TRUTH

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#136
Apr 5, 2012
 
Have you read the article, Dan? Enlighten us on any details of relevance.
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#137
Apr 5, 2012
 
Dan Hallen wrote:
Time magizine has Martin on there cover it says national outrage and national tradgedy! Truth pick it up then argue your ignorance with there editors ! Time isn't known to be a liberal mag so argue with them! My girlfreind and best freind are black!! We have been freinds since kindergarten and racism Alive
What does your race have to do with anything? We are all individuals. You don't believe that? Then, that makes you a racist. That's right. Blacks can be racist, too. You don't know my race. You may actually be surprised. That isn't of any importance though. This isn't a racially motivated crime. It's not a crime at all if Zimmerman acted in self-defense. This guy is a victim of those seeking vigilante justice. Let the justice system do its job.
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#138
Apr 5, 2012
 
I'm not black ! It is about race and the vigilante is Zimmerman!! You want to put a medal around the neck of a child killer I propose a noose!!
TRUTH

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#139
Apr 5, 2012
 
Dan Hallen wrote:
Time magizine has Martin on there cover it says national outrage and national tradgedy! Truth pick it up then argue your ignorance with there editors ! Time isn't known to be a liberal mag so argue with them! My girlfreind and best freind are black!! We have been freinds since kindergarten and racism Alive
Excuse me. Your "friend" and girlfriend are. It's still irrelevant. You are the one bringing race into a non-racial issue making you a racist.
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#141
Apr 9, 2012
 
Tell ya what, before you vote, close your eyes, picture Treyvon was your child, now vote, enough said
TRUTH

Lexington, KY

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#143
Apr 9, 2012
 
Pride wrote:
Tell ya what, before you vote, close your eyes, picture Treyvon was your child, now vote, enough said
Has nothing to do with what happened. Justice should be found from an objective perspective. Emotions distort facts. You don't get that?
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#144
Apr 9, 2012
 
I picture you as comic book guy from the Simpsons !! With food on your shirt typing with fervent passion out of breath wishing u could get a job doing security.. Trevon was not a athletic kid he worked the consetion stand at home games. He was a honor student who mowed yards for elderly people for free. He had only been found with a Baggie with residue not marihuana .This a statement made by Walt Zalosko police cheif of neighboring OakHill . Zimerman came of as a cop wannabe he had numerous applications in with several police departments !! He would beg pastors and people I'n authority for letters of recomendation ! He had called in 88 calls on watch since 2010. He had called over 150 off duty !! He trolled police officers and took classes!! Zimmerman has a criminal back ground just since 2006 his girlfreind filed restraineing orders and domestic abuse on him. He pushed a real police officer and was charged! His exact words this guy looks up to no good ! Black with a hoodie he said this is another 1 of those black assholes and they allways get away but not this time! Argue with Time The Miami Tribute I won't respond to anymore of your ignorant posts!! Im not makeing it about race the nation is!! I won't respond to you again lay a flower on this topic cause you will have to argue your ignorance with some one else!!!
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#145
Apr 9, 2012
 
dan hallen wrote:
I picture you as comic book guy from the Simpsons !! With food on your shirt typing with fervent passion out of breath wishing u could get a job doing security.. Trevon was not a athletic kid he worked the consetion stand at home games. He was a honor student who mowed yards for elderly people for free. He had only been found with a Baggie with residue not marihuana .This a statement made by Walt Zalosko police cheif of neighboring OakHill . Zimerman came of as a cop wannabe he had numerous applications in with several police departments !! He would beg pastors and people I'n authority for letters of recomendation ! He had called in 88 calls on watch since 2010. He had called over 150 off duty !! He trolled police officers and took classes!! Zimmerman has a criminal back ground just since 2006 his girlfreind filed restraineing orders and domestic abuse on him. He pushed a real police officer and was charged! His exact words this guy looks up to no good ! Black with a hoodie he said this is another 1 of those black assholes and they allways get away but not this time! Argue with Time The Miami Tribute I won't respond to anymore of your ignorant posts!! Im not makeing it about race the nation is!! I won't respond to you again lay a flower on this topic cause you will have to argue your ignorance with some one else!!!
That's a good idea. Lay your illogical, irrelevant points to rest. Hopefully, I won't have to hear any more assumptions from you made from thin air.

I don't have to win this debate. Zimmerman possibly will not be arrested. I doubt that, but I haven't seen any evidence that contradicts his story. If he goes to court, it will take one dumb lawyer or some monumental new find to convict him. You can think someone is guilty all you want. It takes evidence to convict someone.

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Why would I continue a debate with a person who doesn't even know how to spell the names of those involved--much less, anything else? I don't care what type of device you're using. It doesn't keep you from spelling correctly. If anything, it would help.

As far as your prejudiced imagery of me being a "comic book guy." You're way off the mark again. I hate comic books and work full time as an educated professional. That doesn't mean that I can't get on here and voice my opinions. Especially, when a man who hasn't been convicted is being harassed beyond all comprehension. If found innocent, he should definitely sue for defamation of character. He would be in Forbes top ten richest men in the world if he does.
TRUTH

Lexington, KY

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#146
Apr 9, 2012
 
dan hallen wrote:
I picture you as comic book guy from the Simpsons !! With food on your shirt typing with fervent passion out of breath wishing u could get a job doing security.. Trevon was not a athletic kid he worked the consetion stand at home games. He was a honor student who mowed yards for elderly people for free. He had only been found with a Baggie with residue not marihuana .This a statement made by Walt Zalosko police cheif of neighboring OakHill . Zimerman came of as a cop wannabe he had numerous applications in with several police departments !! He would beg pastors and people I'n authority for letters of recomendation ! He had called in 88 calls on watch since 2010. He had called over 150 off duty !! He trolled police officers and took classes!! Zimmerman has a criminal back ground just since 2006 his girlfreind filed restraineing orders and domestic abuse on him. He pushed a real police officer and was charged! His exact words this guy looks up to no good ! Black with a hoodie he said this is another 1 of those black assholes and they allways get away but not this time! Argue with Time The Miami Tribute I won't respond to anymore of your ignorant posts!! Im not makeing it about race the nation is!! I won't respond to you again lay a flower on this topic cause you will have to argue your ignorance with some one else!!!
It sounds like someone's been watching a few too many Simpson's episodes...
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#147
Apr 9, 2012
 
I have a iPhone that has a mind of its own unlike! You it just posted something are you a janitor? Took you a while to get the Comic Book Guy reference did you ask a kid when u were putting orange stuff on there vomit ! Nope this doesn't correct words it makes them up! Everything I've stated is printed in Time and People write them a letter cause I'm busy son
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#148
Apr 10, 2012
 
TRUTH wrote:
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MARTIN HAD BEEN CAUGHT IN POSSESSION OF STOLEN WOMEN'S JEWELRY AND A BURGLAR'S TOOL AT SCHOOL.
THIS INDICATES THAT HE HAD BEEN INVOLVED IN THIEVERY.
MARTIN DID NOT LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY NOR WAS HE A REGULAR FIXTURE OF THE COMMUNITY.
MARTIN APPEARED SUSPICIOUS BY RUNNING.
MARTIN INITIATED THE VIOLENCE.
ZIMMERMAN HAD NO WAY OF TELLING WHAT THIS YOUTH'S INTENTION'S WERE.
Get your facts straight.
Read your post dumb azz! "Martin appeared suspicious by "RUNNING", If he was running, did he go BACK to beat the crap out of Zimmerman? Did Zimmerman RUN him down to shoot him?? And maybe if I have a gun, and I don't know what someone's intentions are, I can shoot them???? So I could have shot many a young men because I didn't know their "INTENTIONS" with my daughter?

A lawyer would rip you apart on the stand. Don't even try to justify the murder of a child! You get your facts straight!!
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#149
Apr 10, 2012
 
To Truth wrote:
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Read your post dumb azz! "Martin appeared suspicious by "RUNNING", If he was running, did he go BACK to beat the crap out of Zimmerman? Did Zimmerman RUN him down to shoot him?? And maybe if I have a gun, and I don't know what someone's intentions are, I can shoot them???? So I could have shot many a young men because I didn't know their "INTENTIONS" with my daughter?
A lawyer would rip you apart on the stand. Don't even try to justify the murder of a child! You get your facts straight!!
It seems you haven't heard the 911 call with Zimmerman panting heavily. You, my friend, are ill-informed.

This obviously isn't the blatant murder of a "child." Zimmerman would have been arrested on the spot. There are obvious ambiguities in correlation between Zimmerman's story and in the laws that allow for self-defense in Florida.

A lawyer will not rip Zimmerman apart (nor will he rip me apart as I have not been accused). Zimmerman's case seems to be airtight.

Read a little and make your own opinions before reading what I've wrote to make yourself look ignorant.

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