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#1 Mar 25, 2012
Zimmerman (strapped) was looking for a confrontation with the mindset that these “Black”“assholes” always get away; but not this time, not if he had anything to do with it. He didn’t care; this 17 year old boy who did nothing wrong “looked suspicious” and on “drugs or something”, and Zimmerman was going to deal with him in spite of the 911 operator telling him not to follow (or confront) Travon.

Anyone who claims they need more information after hearing all the 911 tapes, the account of what happened by the girlfriend who was on the phone seconds before Travon was murdered and Zimmerman’s overzealous history of finding Blacks as being up to no good then they need to examine their bias thinking.
TH

North Miami Beach, FL

#2 Mar 25, 2012
Time to move on

Since: Aug 11

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#3 Mar 25, 2012
Is Zimmerman a cuban or latino? Who was that vet.that was gunned down playing basketball with his daughter and the man that kill him?

“CUBA Y PUERTO RICO HERMANOS”

Since: Dec 06

San Juan,Puerto Rico

#4 Mar 25, 2012
JTDLTY wrote:
Is Zimmerman a cuban or latino? Who was that vet.that was g
unned down playing basketball with his daughter and the man that kill him?
I heard he is a SouthAmerican Jew,but I really don't know, but I don't believe knowing his origins would make much difference in what he did!

Since: Jan 12

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#5 Mar 25, 2012
WE JUST DONT CARE wrote:
<quoted text>
I heard he is a SouthAmerican Jew,but I really don't know, but I don't believe knowing his origins would make much difference in what he did!
Zimmerman looks like a south american indian.

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#6 Mar 25, 2012
The guard shot and killed a child and should be jailed for life.

“Where DO missing socks go?”

Since: Jun 11

They run away to join the show

#7 Mar 25, 2012
Marine Corp Pat wrote:
Zimmerman (strapped) was looking for a confrontation with the mindset that these “Black”“assholes” always get away; but not this time, not if he had anything to do with it. He didn’t care; this 17 year old boy who did nothing wrong “looked suspicious” and on “drugs or something”, and Zimmerman was going to deal with him in spite of the 911 operator telling him not to follow (or confront) Travon.
Anyone who claims they need more information after hearing all the 911 tapes, the account of what happened by the girlfriend who was on the phone seconds before Travon was murdered and Zimmerman’s overzealous history of finding Blacks as being up to no good then they need to examine their bias thinking.
Zimmerman's own words on the 911 call convinced me he was a racist

He followed a 17 yr old child for no reason other than he was black

He is a child killer simple as that and there is no excuse to let him walk the street
peace

Miami, FL

#9 Mar 26, 2012
i think we need more information to really conclude anything.

that said, all low income groups in america are definitely the ones discriminated the most against in this country

America got lots of prejudices against these groups and dont care about them.

if you are low income and somebody kills you, or you get killed in low income area....nobody cares about you...they profile your way of dressing and say you look like a criminal

so this got nothing to do with race, had it been a hardworking mexican or a wigger....somebody would have suspected him for criminal

the thing is that the dress code of low income groups in america in many ways is the dress code of criminals....it is cool looking like a hardcore murderer, robber or gang member....that is perceived cool!
Reason

Miami, FL

#10 Mar 27, 2012
-Topicks Puppet Show- wrote:
<quoted text>Zimmerman's own words on the 911 call convinced me he was a racist
He followed a 17 yr old child for no reason other than he was black
He is a child killer simple as that and there is no excuse to let him walk the street
If Mr. Zimmermann is a "simple child killer", then Mr. Martin was a simple street thug. The kid was suspended from school for theft and vandalism. You can read all about it in today's Herald. The parents already lied about the reason for his suspension (which was suspect and ever-changing from the get-go). Let's not make a real-life matter a two-dimensional cartoon sequence of events. There are facets to this story we will never know.

Mr. Zimmerman was the local neighborhood watchman in a development that had recently seen an uptick in burglaries. He'd never seen this suspicious-looking guy before and so he was checking him out. It was his job to follow him, black or not. As for suspicious looking: Mr. Martin was in possession of stolen women's jewelry when he was suspended from school. We've heard a lot of shouting and screaming from Messrs. Jackson, Sharpton, and Obama. However, this is never mentioned.

The 911 tapes show Mr. Zimmerman was attacked by Mr. Martin, called for helped, received none, then acted accordingly. That's the only thing pertinent to the matter that these tapes show. Forget the hysterics and the trendy hipsters hopping on this bandwagon for "street cred" slumming with the little people for kicks. If Mr. Martin wasn't trying to live out his delinquent hip hop fantasies, maybe he'd be alive today.

The problem confronting Arican-Americans today has little to do with Mr. Zimmerman, but you can't sell that to them. Three quarters of Blacks are born out of wedlock. They have a higher incidence of dependence on welfare. They have a lower life expentancy. They have a higher incidence of drug use. They lack basic skills for employment. They live without any hope for the future. How the white man finally defeated African-Americans once and for all was by putting them on welfare and drugs.

However, these are hard issues to confront because they're real. So they fight the fight from 1955. Obama, in an effort to rally his troops, placates to this and made irresponsible comments not befitting a real president. This is irresponsible and symptomatic of Obama's unfitness for command. Maybe if Obama had a father and didn't rise up as a product of the Jesse Jackson school of community activism, he'd know the difference between right and wrong and would know how to act like a real president.
Walter Harold Marlin

Miami, FL

#11 Mar 27, 2012
I would like to know if racial prejudice is instinctual.

The media tries at every level to break people of this racial problem but it never goes away.

My hypothesis- We humans started civilization is the stone age when people lived in close knit tribes. These tribes physical traits became evenly identifiable over time. This sharing of physical traits became an identifier of who was a ally and who was a potential raider or warring tribe member.

Is it possible that over time a physical identifier survival gene mutated into our survival instinct arsenal?
TURBO

Ashland, KY

#12 Mar 27, 2012
Marine Corp Pat wrote:
Zimmerman (strapped) was looking for a confrontation with the mindset that these “Black”“assholes” always get away; but not this time, not if he had anything to do with it. He didn’t care; this 17 year old boy who did nothing wrong “looked suspicious” and on “drugs or something”, and Zimmerman was going to deal with him in spite of the 911 operator telling him not to follow (or confront) Travon.
Anyone who claims they need more information after hearing all the 911 tapes, the account of what happened by the girlfriend who was on the phone seconds before Travon was murdered and Zimmerman’s overzealous history of finding Blacks as being up to no good then they need to examine their bias thinking.
LOOKS LIKE HE WAS A THUG OH WELL
PCisBS

Rockville, MD

#13 Mar 27, 2012
Walter Harold Marlin wrote:
My hypothesis- We humans started civilization is the stone age when people lived in close knit tribes. These tribes physical traits became evenly identifiable over time. This sharing of physical traits became an identifier of who was a ally and who was a potential raider or warring tribe member.
Is it possible that over time a physical identifier survival gene mutated into our survival instinct arsenal?
I completely share your hypothesis. We have to consciously over-ride this but I do believe it's an innate trait we all have.
Walter Harold Marlin wrote:
The media tries at every level to break people of this racial problem
DISAGREE! The media feeds off racism. They are extremely extremely racist themselves. They have Zimmerman guilty as sin without all the facts and assume Travon is innocent because he's a poor put upon black teen. If the media was responsible and non-race baiting they would be constantly reminding people to be patient, that we don't have all the facts.

“Where DO missing socks go?”

Since: Jun 11

They run away to join the show

#14 Mar 27, 2012
Reason wrote:
<quoted text>
If Mr. Zimmermann is a "simple child killer", then Mr. Martin was a simple street thug. The kid was suspended from school for theft and vandalism. You can read all about it in today's Herald. The parents already lied about the reason for his suspension (which was suspect and ever-changing from the get-go). Let's not make a real-life matter a two-dimensional cartoon sequence of events. There are facets to this story we will never know.
Mr. Zimmerman was the local neighborhood watchman in a development that had recently seen an uptick in burglaries. He'd never seen this suspicious-looking guy before and so he was checking him out. It was his job to follow him, black or not. As for suspicious looking: Mr. Martin was in possession of stolen women's jewelry when he was suspended from school. We've heard a lot of shouting and screaming from Messrs. Jackson, Sharpton, and Obama. However, this is never mentioned.
The 911 tapes show Mr. Zimmerman was attacked by Mr. Martin, called for helped, received none, then acted accordingly. That's the only thing pertinent to the matter that these tapes show. Forget the hysterics and the trendy hipsters hopping on this bandwagon for "street cred" slumming with the little people for kicks. If Mr. Martin wasn't trying to live out his delinquent hip hop fantasies, maybe he'd be alive today.
The problem confronting Arican-Americans today has little to do with Mr. Zimmerman, but you can't sell that to them. Three quarters of Blacks are born out of wedlock. They have a higher incidence of dependence on welfare. They have a lower life expentancy. They have a higher incidence of drug use. They lack basic skills for employment. They live without any hope for the future. How the white man finally defeated African-Americans once and for all was by putting them on welfare and drugs.
However, these are hard issues to confront because they're real. So they fight the fight from 1955. Obama, in an effort to rally his troops, placates to this and made irresponsible comments not befitting a real president. This is irresponsible and symptomatic of Obama's unfitness for command. Maybe if Obama had a father and didn't rise up as a product of the Jesse Jackson school of community activism, he'd know the difference between right and wrong and would know how to act like a real president.
Zimmerman had prior charges of resisting arrest and battery on an officer.

Also domestic violence charges in Zimmerman's past

Zimmerman is a 28 year old loser even if his daddy is a doctor.

He was a cop wannabe and a fat ugly 250 lb loser chasing a taller but slim 140lb 17 year old for no other reason than he was a young black male.

The 17 year old boy who was only visiting his father at the time in a place where he did not live was doing nothing but walking home from a store after buying tea and candy.

He was a teenage boy

That makes Zimmerman a child killer.
Walter Harold Marlin

Miami, FL

#15 Mar 27, 2012
PCisBS wrote:
<quoted text>
I completely share your hypothesis. We have to consciously over-ride this but I do believe it's an innate trait we all have.
<quoted text>
DISAGREE! The media feeds off racism. They are extremely extremely racist themselves. They have Zimmerman guilty as sin without all the facts and assume Travon is innocent because he's a poor put upon black teen. If the media was responsible and non-race baiting they would be constantly reminding people to be patient, that we don't have all the facts.
You could go right but in one case or another this methodology of stringing-out a story may actually unintentionally create an environment where solutions to social problems are actually resolved.
Reason

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#16 Mar 27, 2012
Mr. Zimmerman was never charged with anything. This is an utter fabrication. That's the problem with this case. The media is too focused on the rantings of crackheads, ghetto thugs, hipsters and con artists like Jesse Jackson and the hypocritical Hollywood elite. Let's remain calm and reasonable when approaching this. What happened in this particular incident? Lil' 2pac decided he wanted to be a thug and paid the price. Mr. Zimmerman, upstanding citizen in your eyes or not, was defending himself from a violent physical attack. Race isn't a factor here, no matter how much you want it to be.
-Topicks Puppet Show- wrote:
<quoted text>Zimmerman had prior charges of resisting arrest and battery on an officer.
Also domestic violence charges in Zimmerman's past
Zimmerman is a 28 year old loser even if his daddy is a doctor.
He was a cop wannabe and a fat ugly 250 lb loser chasing a taller but slim 140lb 17 year old for no other reason than he was a young black male.
The 17 year old boy who was only visiting his father at the time in a place where he did not live was doing nothing but walking home from a store after buying tea and candy.
He was a teenage boy
That makes Zimmerman a child killer.
PCisBS

Rockville, MD

#17 Mar 27, 2012
nothing is being resolved, just the usual "minorities are victims" mentality continuously promoted for political gain and ratings.

“Where DO missing socks go?”

Since: Jun 11

They run away to join the show

#18 Mar 27, 2012
Reason wrote:
Mr. Zimmerman was never charged with anything. This is an utter fabrication. That's the problem with this case. The media is too focused on the rantings of crackheads, ghetto thugs, hipsters and con artists like Jesse Jackson and the hypocritical Hollywood elite. Let's remain calm and reasonable when approaching this. What happened in this particular incident? Lil' 2pac decided he wanted to be a thug and paid the price. Mr. Zimmerman, upstanding citizen in your eyes or not, was defending himself from a violent physical attack. Race isn't a factor here, no matter how much you want it to be. <quoted text>
MR Zimmeman was stalking a young black male who was walking home from a store only because he was a young black male

He then murdered that unarmed boy in cold blood.

Not much use in discussing it with you when you deny the facts about Zimmermans negative past.

Check again and you will find my statement about Zimmermans prior behavior was accurate.
slick

Chipley, FL

#19 Mar 27, 2012
-Topicks Puppet Show- wrote:
<quoted text>Zimmerman had prior charges of resisting arrest and battery on an officer.
Also domestic violence charges in Zimmerman's past
Zimmerman is a 28 year old loser even if his daddy is a doctor.
He was a cop wannabe and a fat ugly 250 lb loser chasing a taller but slim 140lb 17 year old for no other reason than he was a young black male.
The 17 year old boy who was only visiting his father at the time in a place where he did not live was doing nothing but walking home from a store after buying tea and candy.
He was a teenage boy
That makes Zimmerman a child killer.
suspended from school for ten days ( I got caught smoking twice and got three days ) and was sent to Daddy. What was this a vacation time or was Mom pissed and had it with her baby thug? do you think they will tell us the truth now? Why did they use pictures of him as a boy? And yes...the whole world is watching and both sides of the story are on the street!
attention dummies

Cape Coral, FL

#20 Mar 27, 2012
you are a complete idiot, and it is people like you who are a disgrace to this country. You sound like a pure prejedice red neck idiot, and I pray every day for ignorance like yours to die forever. The comments you make reflect upon the very reason Zimmerman acted out in the way that he did. You would have also. If you have any sense, you would know that Zimmerman was not a guard, he was a resident who lived there, and was just a neighborhood watch person, who is to only report, NEVER APPROACH..He does not have any right to approach a suspicious person, and the 911 operator also agreed. You are simply another minace to this country with your prejudices and ignorance.
Reason wrote:
<quoted text>
If Mr. Zimmermann is a "simple child killer", then Mr. Martin was a simple street thug. The kid was suspended from school for theft and vandalism. You can read all about it in today's Herald. The parents already lied about the reason for his suspension (which was suspect and ever-changing from the get-go). Let's not make a real-life matter a two-dimensional cartoon sequence of events. There are facets to this story we will never know.
Mr. Zimmerman was the local neighborhood watchman in a development that had recently seen an uptick in burglaries. He'd never seen this suspicious-looking guy before and so he was checking him out. It was his job to follow him, black or not. As for suspicious looking: Mr. Martin was in possession of stolen women's jewelry when he was suspended from school. We've heard a lot of shouting and screaming from Messrs. Jackson, Sharpton, and Obama. However, this is never mentioned.
The 911 tapes show Mr. Zimmerman was attacked by Mr. Martin, called for helped, received none, then acted accordingly. That's the only thing pertinent to the matter that these tapes show. Forget the hysterics and the trendy hipsters hopping on this bandwagon for "street cred" slumming with the little people for kicks. If Mr. Martin wasn't trying to live out his delinquent hip hop fantasies, maybe he'd be alive today.
The problem confronting Arican-Americans today has little to do with Mr. Zimmerman, but you can't sell that to them. Three quarters of Blacks are born out of wedlock. They have a higher incidence of dependence on welfare. They have a lower life expentancy. They have a higher incidence of drug use. They lack basic skills for employment. They live without any hope for the future. How the white man finally defeated African-Americans once and for all was by putting them on welfare and drugs.
However, these are hard issues to confront because they're real. So they fight the fight from 1955. Obama, in an effort to rally his troops, placates to this and made irresponsible comments not befitting a real president. This is irresponsible and symptomatic of Obama's unfitness for command. Maybe if Obama had a father and didn't rise up as a product of the Jesse Jackson school of community activism, he'd know the difference between right and wrong and would know how to act like a real president.
attention dummies

Cape Coral, FL

#21 Mar 27, 2012
stick your rude comments up your white ass...

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