Immigrants & K-12 Debate - Romeoville, IL

Discuss the national Immigrants & K-12 debate in Romeoville, IL.

Should America provide K-12 schooling for young illegal immigrants?

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The White Devil

Plainfield, IL

#1 Dec 21, 2011
Hell No. Kick them anchor babies back over the border as well. We are being over run by roaches.
not sure

Bolingbrook, IL

#2 Dec 21, 2011
The White Devil wrote:
Hell No. Kick them anchor babies back over the border as well. We are being over run by roaches.
Nice to see you treat american citizens like that... the anchor babies, if born on U.S. soil, are as much American citizens as you or I.....
Mr. Green

Woodridge, IL

#3 Dec 22, 2011
The White Devil wrote:
Hell No. Kick them anchor babies back over the border as well. We are being over run by roaches.
that's not fair, if that's the case your mom should have held you in her mouth and went to Canada to spit you out there
bobobobobobobob

Springfield, MA

#4 Dec 22, 2011
not sure wrote:
<quoted text>
Nice to see you treat american citizens like that... the anchor babies, if born on U.S. soil, are as much American citizens as you or I.....
like how you people twist things, they came here illegal then a stupid american got pregnant, sry not our fault, cant wait until they hold them both responsible, soon it will change, but of course you people could care less you dont pay taxes, and if you say you do dont believe ya your probley the 49 percent of americans who dont, plus you wont be around in the furture when this is going to really be a problem.
BAKERSFIELD, Calif. A staggering number of illegal immigrants are housed in California's prisons and jails, and it's taxpayers who foot the huge bill.

Eyewitness News investigated the numbers and asked lawmakers in Sacramento and Washington what can be done.

Eyewitness News obtained data from the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation from the end of December 2010. According to those tables, there were 16,902 inmates on hold for Immigration and Customs Enforcement. There were also 3,962 prisoners listed as potential ICE holds.

Together, that makes 20,864 inmates, which is about 13 percent of California's total inmate population of 162,821 on that date.

"These are foreign-born inmates," CDCR spokeswoman Terry Thornton told Eyewitness News. "Or unlawfully present."

The data shows where all the inmates come from, and it's across the globe.

For example, 10 inmates in California prisons then were from Afghanistan, eight of those here illegally. One inmate is listed from Congo. Nine from Egypt are reported in the U.S. Illegally. There's one inmate from Finland, listed as on ICE hold.

Thornton said CDCR estimates the average cost to house any inmate is $44,563 a year. If that amount is multiplied by the 20,864 illegal immigrants it's a total cost of $929,762,432.
Mr. Green

Woodridge, IL

#5 Dec 22, 2011
bobobobobobobob wrote:
<quoted text>like how you people twist things, they came here illegal then a stupid american got pregnant, sry not our fault, cant wait until they hold them both responsible, soon it will change, but of course you people could care less you dont pay taxes, and if you say you do dont believe ya your probley the 49 percent of americans who dont, plus you wont be around in the furture when this is going to really be a problem.
BAKERSFIELD, Calif.— A staggering number of illegal immigrants are housed in California's prisons and jails, and it's taxpayers who foot the huge bill.

Eyewitness News investigated the numbers and asked lawmakers in Sacramento and Washington what can be done.

Eyewitness News obtained data from the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation from the end of December 2010. According to those tables, there were 16,902 inmates on hold for Immigration and Customs Enforcement. There were also 3,962 prisoners listed as potential ICE holds.

Together, that makes 20,864 inmates, which is about 13 percent of California's total inmate population of 162,821 on that date.

"These are foreign-born inmates," CDCR spokeswoman Terry Thornton told Eyewitness News. "Or unlawfully present."

The data shows where all the inmates come from, and it's across the globe.

For example, 10 inmates in California prisons then were from Afghanistan, eight of those here illegally. One inmate is listed from Congo. Nine from Egypt are reported in the U.S. Illegally. There's one inmate from Finland, listed as on ICE hold.

Thornton said CDCR estimates the average cost to house any inmate is $44,563 a year. If that amount is multiplied by the 20,864 illegal immigrants it's a total cost of $929,762,432.
It will never change, America will adjust even if you dont
No big O

Bolingbrook, IL

#6 Dec 22, 2011
bobobobobobobob wrote:
<quoted text>like how you people twist things, they came here illegal then a stupid american got pregnant, sry not our fault, cant wait until they hold them both responsible, soon it will change, but of course you people could care less you dont pay taxes, and if you say you do dont believe ya your probley the 49 percent of americans who dont, plus you wont be around in the furture when this is going to really be a problem.
BAKERSFIELD, Calif. A staggering number of illegal immigrants are housed in California's prisons and jails, and it's taxpayers who foot the huge bill.
Eyewitness News investigated the numbers and asked lawmakers in Sacramento and Washington what can be done.
Eyewitness News obtained data from the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation from the end of December 2010. According to those tables, there were 16,902 inmates on hold for Immigration and Customs Enforcement. There were also 3,962 prisoners listed as potential ICE holds.
Together, that makes 20,864 inmates, which is about 13 percent of California's total inmate population of 162,821 on that date.
"These are foreign-born inmates," CDCR spokeswoman Terry Thornton told Eyewitness News. "Or unlawfully present."
The data shows where all the inmates come from, and it's across the globe.
For example, 10 inmates in California prisons then were from Afghanistan, eight of those here illegally. One inmate is listed from Congo. Nine from Egypt are reported in the U.S. Illegally. There's one inmate from Finland, listed as on ICE hold.
Thornton said CDCR estimates the average cost to house any inmate is $44,563 a year. If that amount is multiplied by the 20,864 illegal immigrants it's a total cost of $929,762,432.
like how you people twist things, they came here illegal then a stupid american got pregnant, sry not our fault, cant wait until they hold them both responsible

Ummm you do realize that no "stupid american" needs to be involved. You due realize the "stupid american" could be the one who got the I.A. pregnant. Lastly, you do realize that if the child is born on american soil, regardless of parents status, the child is a U.S citizen..... but dont let the facts get in the way of your rant.....

oon it will change, but of course you people could care less you dont pay taxes, and if you say you do dont believe ya your probley the 49 percent of americans who dont, plus you wont be around in the furture when this is going to really be a problem.

Um Archie Bunker....
Who do you refer to as "you people"... The I.A's, those people who care about the child who is a pawn in their parents crime.... Who exactly are you speaking of?

Secondly, what ever your answer to "you people" is,
Those "people" pay property taxes which goes to fund the schools which is the subject of this thread. If "those people" own property, they pay. If "those people" rent, they pay second hand through the land owner. So "those people" should have the right to get what they pay for...

"Those people" wont be around in the future... exactly where will they be....

As far as the rest of your cut and paste ... I find it funny. You post something about I.A.s in prison and how much it costs the taxpayers to keep them there. All the while, saying we should not educate the children. You do realize that the greater the education one has the less likelyhood of them ending up in prison... So if you educate the children... less likelihood of paying for them later.

Face it, the I.A. problem is not going away. When b.o . is voted out of office next year, the new prez wont/cant for political social and practical reason get rid of them in a big war on I.A.s.

The best thing we can do is stop I.A.S From coming in, deport as much as possible, and look to the future and make sure the kids that are here have a chance not to be a burden to society
bobobobobobobob

Springfield, MA

#7 Dec 22, 2011
[QUOTE who="Mr. Green"]<quoted text>
It will never change, America will adjust even if you dont[/QUOTE]IT WILL CHANGE, because its eather raise taxes,to provide for people not from this country or not , and if the americans who pay taxes say no its not going to happen, the goverment is not going to be that stupid, because without us taxpayers on board, it will change, and if a politician want to get elected they will also changbe to. AND i dont need to adjust my father was from outside this country came here the right way provided people with job, made a good business paid taxes, so maby you need to adjust to the real world instead of the past.REMEMBER TAXPAYERS WILL ALWAYS WIN IN THE END!!!!!!!!!! THE OTHER 49 PERCENT NEED US DUMB ASS
Mr. Green

Woodridge, IL

#8 Dec 22, 2011
bobobobobobobob wrote:
[QUOTE who="Mr. Green"]<quoted text>
It will never change, America will adjust even if you dont"

IT WILL CHANGE, because its eather raise taxes,to provide for people not from this country or not , and if the americans who pay taxes say no its not going to happen, the goverment is not going to be that stupid, because without us taxpayers on board, it will change, and if a politician want to get elected they will also changbe to. AND i dont need to adjust my father was from outside this country came here the right way provided people with job, made a good business paid taxes, so maby you need to adjust to the real world instead of the past.REMEMBER TAXPAYERS WILL ALWAYS WIN IN THE END!!!!!!!!!! THE OTHER 49 PERCENT NEED US DUMB ASS
Nope I disagree with you completely. Granted illegal immigration will remain illegal but no more efforts would be made. Sorry but you will adjust and you will enjoy it. Denial is not a friend, first step to rehabilitation is admitting you have a problem. There's no reason to yell on this forum, especially how loud you did. I can't hear you lol. Pee on
ICE

Shorewood, IL

#9 Dec 22, 2011
If one or both parents are Aliens then they need to go back to their country. If they produced a baby and you claim it is a citizen because it was born here. The choice is your, give it up for adoption or take it back with you because you got to go your an alien!!!
bobobobobobobob

Springfield, MA

#10 Dec 22, 2011
[QUOTE who="Mr. Green"]<quoted text>
Nope I disagree with you completely. Granted illegal immigration will remain illegal but no more efforts would be made. Sorry but you will adjust and you will enjoy it. Denial is not a friend, first step to rehabilitation is admitting you have a problem. There's no reason to yell on this forum, especially how loud you did. I can't hear you lol. Pee on[/QUOTE]this isnt AA , and from the sounds of that you deff are not a tax payers so that why people are not listening to you. And yes you will see alot of efforts in 2012 esp when the sentate folds to the republicans esp when it comes to voting, going to need an id, lolololol its happening all over, your just blind, because in alot of states it is already happening.Dont worry people are finding out that money is not as easy to have or get, does not grow on trees and if push comes to show americans will win. Esp if americans are going to have to pay more. But you know what,i guess we can wait until there is no more money then all them lovely program will be gone.lolololololol
bobobobobobobob

Springfield, MA

#11 Dec 22, 2011
[QUOTE who="Mr. Green"]<quoted text>
It will never change, America will adjust even if you dont[/QUOTE]BTW keep smoking the green, MERRY CHRISTMAS this is AMERICA NOT MEXICO, CHINA, NORTH KOREA ECT.
bobobobobobobob

Springfield, MA

#12 Dec 22, 2011
No big O wrote:
<quoted text>
like how you people twist things, they came here illegal then a stupid american got pregnant, sry not our fault, cant wait until they hold them both responsible
Ummm you do realize that no "stupid american" needs to be involved. You due realize the "stupid american" could be the one who got the I.A. pregnant. Lastly, you do realize that if the child is born on american soil, regardless of parents status, the child is a U.S citizen..... but dont let the facts get in the way of your rant.....
oon it will change, but of course you people could care less you dont pay taxes, and if you say you do dont believe ya your probley the 49 percent of americans who dont, plus you wont be around in the furture when this is going to really be a problem.
Um Archie Bunker....
Who do you refer to as "you people"... The I.A's, those people who care about the child who is a pawn in their parents crime.... Who exactly are you speaking of?
Secondly, what ever your answer to "you people" is,
Those "people" pay property taxes which goes to fund the schools which is the subject of this thread. If "those people" own property, they pay. If "those people" rent, they pay second hand through the land owner. So "those people" should have the right to get what they pay for...
"Those people" wont be around in the future... exactly where will they be....
As far as the rest of your cut and paste ... I find it funny. You post something about I.A.s in prison and how much it costs the taxpayers to keep them there. All the while, saying we should not educate the children. You do realize that the greater the education one has the less likelyhood of them ending up in prison... So if you educate the children... less likelihood of paying for them later.
Face it, the I.A. problem is not going away. When b.o . is voted out of office next year, the new prez wont/cant for political social and practical reason get rid of them in a big war on I.A.s.
The best thing we can do is stop I.A.S From coming in, deport as much as possible, and look to the future and make sure the kids that are here have a chance not to be a burden to society
OHH YEA I DO REALIZE THE STUPID AMERICAN got the ia pregnant thats why they will pay in the end when there other is deported lolololol and when you say property tax i have to laugh because of the 49 percent maby 5 percent ownes houses that we still are paying for, the subsidies ect and sry if you pay taxes at the end of the year instead of getting a return, they are two different people so you know
And when i say thoses people wont be around in the furture heres an example you think harry reid is going to live another 20 years NO thats what i mean, so he could care less how much he messes up now, because he wont have to deal with it in the furture lololol
No big O

Bolingbrook, IL

#13 Dec 22, 2011
bobobobobobobob wrote:
<quoted text>OHH YEA I DO REALIZE THE STUPID AMERICAN got the ia pregnant thats why they will pay in the end when there other is deported lolololol and when you say property tax i have to laugh because of the 49 percent maby 5 percent ownes houses that we still are paying for, the subsidies ect and sry if you pay taxes at the end of the year instead of getting a return, they are two different people so you know
And when i say thoses people wont be around in the furture heres an example you think harry reid is going to live another 20 years NO thats what i mean, so he could care less how much he messes up now, because he wont have to deal with it in the furture lololol
You do realize that
a. your numbers are way off afa percentage owning houses...
and
b. If they do not own they must rent apartmetn condo house what ever. If they rent, then they sencond hand pay propertty taxes. Yes the land owner gets the bill and writes the check, however the cost of the taxes are figured into the rent. So in essence the renter is paying the taxes...
bobobobobobobob

Springfield, MA

#14 Dec 22, 2011
No big O wrote:
<quoted text>
You do realize that
a. your numbers are way off afa percentage owning houses...
and
b. If they do not own they must rent apartmetn condo house what ever. If they rent, then they sencond hand pay propertty taxes. Yes the land owner gets the bill and writes the check, however the cost of the taxes are figured into the rent. So in essence the renter is paying the taxes...
yup and when the owner has to pay more taxes they will raise the rent and who will that hurt in the end americans, not the illegals, people will wake up, there are no more free rides soon, and most renters around here get section 8, or some from of check from the goverment from thoses people that rent, the goverment will get smaller and people will have to think of a different way. Maby this all wont happen now as you say, but the furture is going to be scarry for are kids and theres, thats were i am comming from, i dont care about me, im can only save for my kids and hope there life wont be as hard, but i doubt it, i only can make sure there hopefully will have a good education, and enough saved to get through there first stage of life, im a hard worker, at my job for 24 years and another 24 to go, started at 15 and worked my way up, if i have to do this i would hope everyone else has to
The White Devil

Plainfield, IL

#15 Dec 22, 2011
not sure wrote:
<quoted text>
Nice to see you treat american citizens like that... the anchor babies, if born on U.S. soil, are as much American citizens as you or I.....
Please your eyes must be brown since your so full of crap. Bottom line is if one or both parents are illegal then they need to be booted out and until the law is changed to pry their anchor baby US citizen status they have two choices:(1) Take the kid back to their homeland and (2) leave it here to be adopted. The problem is actually larger than illegal immigration since this country incentivizes people to have more and more babies. The subsidies, tax system/welfare/food stamps/Obamacare/even free cell phones, need to be eliminated and the systemic problem will cease without incentives. Unfortunately, we have the blind leading the stupid with more and more takers making up a greater percentage of the voting block so nothing will change and the downward spiral will continue until the country balkanizes into separate countries. Good luck being the Sudan East and don't expect aide from our soverign country the United People of Get The Hell Out.
The White Devil

Plainfield, IL

#16 Dec 22, 2011
Sudan West for anyone who thinks they are quippish to retort on my oversight. BTW I am neither Republican nor Democrat nor Libertarian. I am starting a new party,PLTR, People for the Liberation of those being Tax Raped.
Amy

United States

#17 Dec 22, 2011
ILLEGAL = Go back to your own country
BigBumper

Romeoville, IL

#18 Dec 22, 2011
I would give tax incentives to anyone who hits these leaches with their cars. You would think I could get my lawn cut for free with as many as these bastards my taxes pay for. A little reach around eases the pain when your getting raped.
No big O

Bolingbrook, IL

#19 Dec 22, 2011
bobobobobobobob wrote:
<quoted text>yup and when the owner has to pay more taxes they will raise the rent and who will that hurt in the end americans, not the illegals, people will wake up, there are no more free rides soon, and most renters around here get section 8, or some from of check from the goverment from thoses people that rent, the goverment will get smaller and people will have to think of a different way. Maby this all wont happen now as you say, but the furture is going to be scarry for are kids and theres, thats were i am comming from, i dont care about me, im can only save for my kids and hope there life wont be as hard, but i doubt it, i only can make sure there hopefully will have a good education, and enough saved to get through there first stage of life, im a hard worker, at my job for 24 years and another 24 to go, started at 15 and worked my way up, if i have to do this i would hope everyone else has to
If property taxes goes up... it will hurt anyone who owns or rents property.... americans, land lords and renters regardless of citizenship status...
Immigration

Shorewood, IL

#20 Dec 22, 2011
Illegal is not a race.,..\IT IS A CRIME!!! REPORT THEN DEPORT

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