Immigrants & K-12 Debate - Monterey, TN

Discuss the national Immigrants & K-12 debate in Monterey, TN.

Should America provide K-12 schooling for young illegal immigrants?

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Citizen

Livingston, TN

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#1
Dec 23, 2011
 
They are not citizens of the United States of America, therefore they do not deserve the right to K-12 schooling as American citizens do!
Sam Houston

Cookeville, TN

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#2
Dec 23, 2011
 
Attending school paid for by tax payer dollars, should be for the citizens of the US, not those children of illegal immigrants who have paid nothing. They also have free emergency room care, whose cost will be past onto the American Taxpayer, not the children of illegals, again who will get a free ride on the back of the American citizens.
true but

Cookeville, TN

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#3
Dec 29, 2011
 
Sam Houston wrote:
Attending school paid for by tax payer dollars, should be for the citizens of the US, not those children of illegal immigrants who have paid nothing. They also have free emergency room care, whose cost will be past onto the American Taxpayer, not the children of illegals, again who will get a free ride on the back of the American citizens.
Some of them DO pay taxes (have them held out of their pay) even though, as illegals, they will NOT be able to collect social security at retirement. They also pay Sales Taxes when they spend the money they make here on living expenses. They also pay rent to citizen-landlords, who pay higher real estate taxes on income-property, after they collect those rents. A lot is unfair but look at the whole picture and it may even make you feel better about it.
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Cookeville, TN

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Jan 24, 2012
 
It shouldn't be the responsibility of the American tax payer to foot the bill for them when we our selves need to put this money to better use
Gomezz

Maryville, TN

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#5
Jan 28, 2012
 
me make litte boy and girl with white woman , and boy with 2 more white woman . they good in school! Thank you for feeding my kids
gracie

Cookeville, TN

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#6
Apr 10, 2012
 
because everyone deserves a chance
see while you can

Cookeville, TN

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#7
Apr 11, 2012
 
john wrote:
It shouldn't be the responsibility of the American tax payer to foot the bill for them when we our selves need to put this money to better use
They pay rent to live in old trailers on tiny pieces of land, that has brought in a LOT of money to landowner's in Monterey, Tn. They pay for all kinds of services, and cars, groceries, and ALL the Tn sales taxes. The landlords who own the trailers and tiny little houses also pay real estate taxes to Putnam County, more so for the income-producing houses, than you do for your own house..that is: a higher percentage rate. They get deductions withheld from their pay. If you know ANYONE paying ANYONE under the table, white or hispanic, report them...they cheat the taxpayers, whether "WHITE" OR "HISPANIC". That is a valid gripe. We are being led to hate. We are being manipulated. History has story after story of the common working man...too busy feeding his family to do much else...being manipulated into hating one group after another. I am not a communist or a socialist. I am trying to be "a spiritual being living a human life". What is the time you have to wait to immigrate legally? Do you see what is happening down there? Do you think they WANT to have to come up here & be hated? How many "Americans" do you know or have you known who have collected benefits and still worked and gotten paid "under the table"? Collected disability because they are drunks or addicts?...and many still get paid under the table to work. Get the rehab-industry out of our government. That's how so many get on the "dole" for being drunks or addicts..mandatory testing of employees by many big industries because their insurance is forced to be going broke paying for the revolving door of rehabs. They got it declared a disease so the insurance has to pay and that includes "disability". Call up an insurance company and ask them what they think about having to pay for rehabs. Tenn Care for example. How many people get paid for "rehabs" after the person gets busted. The rehabs LOVE it because the courts send them patients...they sit in court like ambulance chasers. Watch "Intervention" on tv, all the way to the end and see how many of those patients, after going to the "luxury" rehabs, go back & use. It's in the end of the show where you read the "credits". THIS is having a much greater effect on workers than anything else.
american taxpayer

Cookeville, TN

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Dec 8, 2012
 
Sam Houston wrote:
Attending school paid for by tax payer dollars, should be for the citizens of the US, not those children of illegal immigrants who have paid nothing. They also have free emergency room care, whose cost will be past onto the American Taxpayer, not the children of illegals, again who will get a free ride on the back of the American citizens.
if the schools got rid of all the hispanics they would have room for our american children! the schools are trying to kick the legal kids out of school saying that they do not live in the county which is worse a kid from another county or a large number of hispanics?
uh sounds like

Cookeville, TN

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Dec 14, 2012
 
american taxpayer wrote:
<quoted text>if the schools got rid of all the hispanics they would have room for our american children! the schools are trying to kick the legal kids out of school saying that they do not live in the county which is worse a kid from another county or a large number of hispanics?
Sounds like you have a child who is being made to go to school in the county where they live.?? You are trying to make it into a big issue. It is IMPOSSIBLE for even illegals to live here and not pay taxes UNLESS someone is paying them "under the table". Even though that were the case, they STILL pay sales tax for everything they buy, just like legals do. They ALSO pay the outrageous rents for the barely livable homes everyone threw up in their yards when they found they could make some money off of these people. Knock it off and grow up. Just because a child has to attend the school where they live is no reason to start a racist rant on here.
uh sounds like

Cookeville, TN

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Dec 14, 2012
 
its a must wrote:
<quoted text>do hispanics have to get immunizations?
Do you think that they don't? Of COURSE they do!
think about it

Cookeville, TN

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Dec 14, 2012
 
john wrote:
It shouldn't be the responsibility of the American tax payer to foot the bill for them when we our selves need to put this money to better use
They also "foot the bill" once they are working and paying taxes(yes, they do) and rent...especially the rent since the landlord pays the real estate taxes to the county (before Ms. Chaffin, at least!)...those taxes fund the schools. You have to see the big picture or you are just spewing ignorance. It is not all at "our" expense. The economy in Monterey has greatly incresed.
Gomez

Cookeville, TN

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#13
Dec 15, 2012
 
We no pay taxes.
think about it

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Dec 16, 2012
 
landlord wrote:
<quoted text>it is their choice to live here no one ask them to move here! if the landlords can get outrageous rent from them then so be it! they could choose to live some where else right? if they are stupid enough to pay it and not try to negoiate a lower price well then so be it.
The whole point about the rent IS the fact that the landlords DO collect big rents and then they (the landlords) have to pay higher taxes because they now own income-producing property. That is ONE INSTANCE of how the "newcomers" DO PAY TAXES. It is one instance, also, of how they DO contribute to the community. Legal or not legal, they DO have to pay to live here, and as long as the landlord is paying HIS fair taxes on those properties(from the money he gets from "the newcomers") they are not bleeding funds from our schools.
think about it

Cookeville, TN

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Dec 16, 2012
 
landlord wrote:
<quoted text>one reason landlords charge so much is because they move in six to twelve people but dont mention it to the owner then its too late and you cant get them out they destroy any and everything they touch they have no respect for others property so they way i see we may as well get as much money up front because they will cost you a fortune in the end if they dont like the rent prices here do us a favor and move away
Where do you get your information from? ANY landlord with a brain knows he has to keep an eye on his rented properties....ANYONE can specify the limit of people allowed to be actually living in a place.....do they not do that at Wonderwood? You are allowed to have visitors but for a specific number of nights. Violate that, and you're out....hispanic, OR good-old-boy.
You sound like you have a lot of misplaced anger: "they move in six to twelve people"(really? how do you get your numbers?) "they destroy anything and everything they touch".....really?....isn 't that why landlords hold security deposits? "they have no respect for others' property"?? ARE you actually a landlord? If so, and I doubt it, have you ever rented to a drug-head and seen your place turned into a "crash-pad" for the local-"legal"-addict s?
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Cookeville, TN

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Dec 16, 2012
 
american taxpayer wrote:
<quoted text>if the schools got rid of all the hispanics they would have room for our american children! the schools are trying to kick the legal kids out of school saying that they do not live in the county which is worse a kid from another county or a large number of hispanics?
translation: "My child has to go to the school in the county we live in and I want someone to blame because I cannot get my way".
Is this what your problem and complaint is about? Heck, I know of other states where if you want your child to go to a different county's school than where you live, you have to pay with your OWN MONEY to send them there, above & beyond the transportation, which you ALSO have to pay for.
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Cookeville, TN

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Dec 16, 2012
 
Gomez wrote:
We no pay taxes.
Mielda del toro.
really

Cookeville, TN

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Dec 16, 2012
 
american taxpayer wrote:
<quoted text>if the schools got rid of all the hispanics they would have room for our american children! the schools are trying to kick the legal kids out of school saying that they do not live in the county which is worse a kid from another county or a large number of hispanics?
NO child has been kicked out of school because of "a large number of hispanics". That is a gross misstatement! Send your child to the school they are supposed to attend based on where you live....or move to the county where that school is. End of problem.
really

Cookeville, TN

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Dec 16, 2012
 
its a must wrote:
<quoted text>do hispanics have to get immunizations?
Do all children in public school have to have immunizations up to date? What makes you think they don't?
Since you bring that up, I wonder if children coming from meth-head homes have to get screened for toxic substances on themselves or their clothes from living in the contaminated environment?
really

Cookeville, TN

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#24
Dec 16, 2012
 
dumb wrote:
<quoted text>this is the silliest thing i have ever heard! they cant negioate the price of rent how dumb
That's surely the truth!! I don't understand why this "person" doesn't want to move near the school that they want their child to attend, if it's so important for them to be at one particular school. To blame "the rules" of attendance on how many hispanics are in the school is really very immature reasoning.
thinking about it

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Dec 16, 2012
 
hispanics rights wrote:
<quoted text>why do land owners charge the hispanics so much for a place to live? i do not understand this at all. why are they not rented/leased property the same way americans are? whatever the reason may be it is sad
I think it is about the same, isn't it? They can charge a security deposit in case there are any damages when a renter leaves. If you move in to a place that has damage, the landlord and the new renter need to have a list (right away!) that states the damage, they both need to sign it and it needs to have the date on it. Some bad landlords try to keep the deposit when the people leave, saying that THEY did the damage...that's why you need that list of things that are in bad shape....right when you move in. Are you sure they are getting paid more from the hispanics for the same rental houses?

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